So you say that PROSet finds all the networks and can connect,
but WZC sees nothing?
This may be fault of the 2915 driver, what version it is?

--PA

"Chuck" wrote:
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> I have XP Pro sp2. My wireless card is an Intel 2915ABG. I prefer to
> allow windows to manage wi-fi but for some reason starting today the
> wireless zero configuration is showing no networks. If I refresh the
> list it comes back in a fraction of a second and still says "no wireless
> networks available". It used to take 5-10 seconds to refresh the list so
> something is wrong. I know there are at least a dozen SSID's it should
> be picking up. If I allow the Intel ProSET/Wireless utility to manage
> wifi it finds all of the SSID's and can connect to the one I want just
> fine. What would prevent WZC from displaying the SSID's?
>
> TIA
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Hi
I am not familiar with the specific Intel Drivers.
However some Wireless Client Drivers install the Drivers and the Wireless
utility together, even when you check in the utility let Windows mange the
Wireless they might interfere. If there is a way to install the drivers
without the Utility try it might solve the problem.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Chuck" wrote in message
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> I have XP Pro sp2. My wireless card is an Intel 2915ABG. I prefer to
> allow windows to manage wi-fi but for some reason starting today the
> wireless zero configuration is showing no networks. If I refresh the
> list it comes back in a fraction of a second and still says "no wireless
> networks available". It used to take 5-10 seconds to refresh the list so
> something is wrong. I know there are at least a dozen SSID's it should
> be picking up. If I allow the Intel ProSET/Wireless utility to manage
> wifi it finds all of the SSID's and can connect to the one I want just
> fine. What would prevent WZC from displaying the SSID's?
>
> TIA
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"Pavel A." wrote:

> So you say that PROSet finds all the networks and can connect,
> but WZC sees nothing?
> This may be fault of the 2915 driver, what version it is?
>

Yes. PROset finds all networks and can connect but WZC sees nothing and in
fact is behaving strangely. It used to work up until yesterday but now WZC
refreshes in a fraction of a second. It used to take about 5 seconds. I think
something in WZC is failing.

There is another strange symptom too. When you go into "network
connections", "wireless network connection", properties, my recollection is
that there used to be 3 tabs - general, advanced, and wireless networks. The
latter tab is no longer there.

I also have iPass installed - a natianal dialup/wifi networking program.
I've had it for 3 years but updated it a day or two ago. Not sure if maybe
this screwed it up because it does have a wireless component that's supposed
to find hotspots in range and allow me to connect to them. Is there a way to
roll back a software update? I looked in system restore but could not find
anything for ipass. I also don't have the original disk for it so I can't
uninstall and reinstall. Plus I'm not even sure this was the problem. I can't
remember if I was able to connect after updating it or not.

You can ignore the difference in email addresses between this post and the
original. I'm the same person but had to access the NG through MS's web site
today due to problems with my usenet proxy server.

Hmm, iPass has it's own wireless client.
I haven't worked with it yet, don't know details.
Maybe this explains what you see.

--PA


"Chuck" wrote:
> "Pavel A." wrote:
>
> > So you say that PROSet finds all the networks and can connect,
> > but WZC sees nothing?
> > This may be fault of the 2915 driver, what version it is?
> >
>
> Yes. PROset finds all networks and can connect but WZC sees nothing and in
> fact is behaving strangely. It used to work up until yesterday but now WZC
> refreshes in a fraction of a second. It used to take about 5 seconds. I think
> something in WZC is failing.
>
> There is another strange symptom too. When you go into "network
> connections", "wireless network connection", properties, my recollection is
> that there used to be 3 tabs - general, advanced, and wireless networks. The
> latter tab is no longer there.
>
> I also have iPass installed - a natianal dialup/wifi networking program.
> I've had it for 3 years but updated it a day or two ago. Not sure if maybe
> this screwed it up because it does have a wireless component that's supposed
> to find hotspots in range and allow me to connect to them. Is there a way to
> roll back a software update? I looked in system restore but could not find
> anything for ipass. I also don't have the original disk for it so I can't
> uninstall and reinstall. Plus I'm not even sure this was the problem. I can't
> remember if I was able to connect after updating it or not.
>
> You can ignore the difference in email addresses between this post and the
> original. I'm the same person but had to access the NG through MS's web site
> today due to problems with my usenet proxy server.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> I am not familiar with the specific Intel Drivers.
> However some Wireless Client Drivers install the Drivers and the Wireless
> utility together, even when you check in the utility let Windows mange the
> Wireless they might interfere. If there is a way to install the drivers
> without the Utility try it might solve the problem.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).


Hi Jack,
yes, the recent version of Proset setup has option to leave the
existing driver in place. These who need just the driver can
install it separately.

Regards,
--PA



> "Chuck" wrote in message
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> > I have XP Pro sp2. My wireless card is an Intel 2915ABG. I prefer to
> > allow windows to manage wi-fi but for some reason starting today the
> > wireless zero configuration is showing no networks. If I refresh the
> > list it comes back in a fraction of a second and still says "no wireless
> > networks available". It used to take 5-10 seconds to refresh the list so
> > something is wrong. I know there are at least a dozen SSID's it should
> > be picking up. If I allow the Intel ProSET/Wireless utility to manage
> > wifi it finds all of the SSID's and can connect to the one I want just
> > fine. What would prevent WZC from displaying the SSID's?
> >
> > TIA
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Should there be a 3rd tab on the wirless network's properties page?

Pavel A. wrote:
> Hmm, iPass has it's own wireless client.
> I haven't worked with it yet, don't know details.
> Maybe this explains what you see.
>
> --PA
>
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>> "Pavel A." wrote:
>>
>>> So you say that PROSet finds all the networks and can connect,
>>> but WZC sees nothing?
>>> This may be fault of the 2915 driver, what version it is?
>>>
>> Yes. PROset finds all networks and can connect but WZC sees nothing and in
>> fact is behaving strangely. It used to work up until yesterday but now WZC
>> refreshes in a fraction of a second. It used to take about 5 seconds. I think
>> something in WZC is failing.
>>
>> There is another strange symptom too. When you go into "network
>> connections", "wireless network connection", properties, my recollection is
>> that there used to be 3 tabs - general, advanced, and wireless networks. The
>> latter tab is no longer there.
>>
>> I also have iPass installed - a natianal dialup/wifi networking program.
>> I've had it for 3 years but updated it a day or two ago. Not sure if maybe
>> this screwed it up because it does have a wireless component that's supposed
>> to find hotspots in range and allow me to connect to them. Is there a way to
>> roll back a software update? I looked in system restore but could not find
>> anything for ipass. I also don't have the original disk for it so I can't
>> uninstall and reinstall. Plus I'm not even sure this was the problem. I can't
>> remember if I was able to connect after updating it or not.
>>
>> You can ignore the difference in email addresses between this post and the
>> original. I'm the same person but had to access the NG through MS's web site
>> today due to problems with my usenet proxy server.

Even after disabling ipass, I still get nothing in the available
wireless networks and a refresh of available wireless networks still
occurs (and apparently fails) instantaneously rather than waiting 4-5
seconds.


Pavel A. wrote:
> Hmm, iPass has it's own wireless client.
> I haven't worked with it yet, don't know details.
> Maybe this explains what you see.
>
> --PA
>
>

"Chuck" wrote:
> Even after disabling ipass, I still get nothing in the available
> wireless networks and a refresh of available wireless networks still
> occurs (and apparently fails) instantaneously rather than waiting 4-5
> seconds.

Chuck, I don't have the ipass client so can't tell what it leaves
behind, even being "disabled". How you disable it?

The wireless tab should be visible if WZC is installed and running -
but WZC must also recognize the adapter as "wireless".
iPass or other 3rd party software may interfere with this, so WZC
won't work with the adapter.

Frankly I don't know how to solve this, besides of calling
support of iPass (and they should work with the vendor of your wireless card).

Meanwhile, try the following script, to verify
that the wireless card does scan:

~~~~~~~cut here, save to file ~~~~~~~~
Wscript.Echo "Enumerating wireless adapters"
N=0
Set wmi=GetObject("winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!root/wmi")
Set AdapterSet=wmi.ExecQuery("select * from MSNdis_80211_BSSIList")
On Error Resume Next
For each wa in AdapterSet
WScript.Echo "Adapter name=", wa.InstanceName
WScript.Echo "Number Of Items in scan=", wa.NumberOfItems
N = N + wa.NumberOfItems
WScript.Echo "Total:", N
Next

If Err.Number <> 0 Then
Wscript.Echo "Error in enumeration (no wlan adapter?) ", Err.Number
End If
WScript.Echo "done"
~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Save this snippet as scan.vbs and run in command window:

c:\> cscript scan.vbs


Regards,
--PA

> Pavel A. wrote:
> > Hmm, iPass has it's own wireless client.
> > I haven't worked with it yet, don't know details.
> > Maybe this explains what you see.
> >
> > --PA

Pavel A. wrote:
> Chuck, I don't have the ipass client so can't tell what it leaves
> behind, even being "disabled". How you disable it?
>
> The wireless tab should be visible if WZC is installed and running -
> but WZC must also recognize the adapter as "wireless".
> iPass or other 3rd party software may interfere with this, so WZC
> won't work with the adapter.
>
> Frankly I don't know how to solve this, besides of calling
> support of iPass (and they should work with the vendor of your wireless card).
>
> Meanwhile, try the following script, to verify
> that the wireless card does scan:
>
> ~~~~~~~cut here, save to file ~~~~~~~~
> Wscript.Echo "Enumerating wireless adapters"
> N=0
> Set wmi=GetObject("winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!root/wmi")
> Set AdapterSet=wmi.ExecQuery("select * from MSNdis_80211_BSSIList")
> On Error Resume Next
> For each wa in AdapterSet
> WScript.Echo "Adapter name=", wa.InstanceName
> WScript.Echo "Number Of Items in scan=", wa.NumberOfItems
> N = N + wa.NumberOfItems
> WScript.Echo "Total:", N
> Next
>
> If Err.Number <> 0 Then
> Wscript.Echo "Error in enumeration (no wlan adapter?) ", Err.Number
> End If
> WScript.Echo "done"
> ~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Save this snippet as scan.vbs and run in command window:
>
> c:\> cscript scan.vbs
>
>
> Regards,
> --PA
>

To disable ipass I simple right click the tray icon and select "exit". I
can also prevent it from starting at all by using msconfig and
unchecking the startup run key.

Here's the output of your script.

Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.6
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1996-2001. All rights reserved.

Enumerating wireless adapters
Total: 0
Error in enumeration (no wlan adapter?) 424
done

It's apparently not finding the wireless adapter. Next step I guess is
to try reinstalling the driver.

Chuck wrote:

> It's apparently not finding the wireless adapter. Next step I guess is
> to try reinstalling the driver.

For future reference, in case anyone else encounters this problem, I did
get it fixed and this is how.

I downloaded the latest driver (R138749) from Dell's web site (the pc in
question is a d610 with Intel 2915abg wireless card). I reinstalled the
driver using this new one and eventually got everything working again.
The first attempt got about 80% of the way done, said that something
failed to be installed/repaired, and rolled everything back. Ran the
setup program again and the component that failed the first time got
installed/repaired, but the next one failed, and it rolled everything
back again. I repeated this cycle, getting one component further along
each time until I finally got a message that I needed to reboot, which I
did. Then I repeated the cycle once or twice more and everything strted
working.