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  1. Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Hi All,

    I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my daughters new
    Vista laptop
    connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected but the
    connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have tried
    manually setting it up without success.

    Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.

    Any ideas please?

    Cheers.
    Bill.


  2. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    broadcasting SSID will be able to.

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:

    >Hi All,
    >
    >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my daughters new
    >Vista laptop
    >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected but the
    >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have tried
    >manually setting it up without success.
    >
    >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    >
    >Any ideas please?
    >
    >Cheers.
    >Bill.

    --

    Barb Bowman
    MS Windows-MVP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

  3. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?

    "Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    > Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    > measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    > others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    > broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    >
    > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >
    > >Hi All,
    > >
    > >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my daughters

    new
    > >Vista laptop
    > >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected but

    the
    > >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have

    tried
    > >manually setting it up without success.
    > >
    > >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    > >
    > >Any ideas please?
    > >
    > >Cheers.
    > >Bill.

    > --
    >
    > Barb Bowman
    > MS Windows-MVP
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/




  4. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:

    >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    >
    >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    >>
    >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >>
    >> >Hi All,
    >> >
    >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my daughters

    >new
    >> >Vista laptop
    >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected but

    >the
    >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have

    >tried
    >> >manually setting it up without success.
    >> >
    >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    >> >
    >> >Any ideas please?
    >> >
    >> >Cheers.
    >> >Bill.

    >> --
    >>
    >> Barb Bowman
    >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    >

    --

    Barb Bowman
    MS Windows-MVP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

  5. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    changing to WPA asap.

    However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!

    Regards.
    Bill.


    "Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    > Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    >
    > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >
    > >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    > >
    > >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    > >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    > >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    > >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    > >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    > >>
    > >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Hi All,
    > >> >
    > >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my

    daughters
    > >new
    > >> >Vista laptop
    > >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected

    but
    > >the
    > >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have

    > >tried
    > >> >manually setting it up without success.
    > >> >
    > >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    > >> >
    > >> >Any ideas please?
    > >> >
    > >> >Cheers.
    > >> >Bill.
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >> Barb Bowman
    > >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    > >

    > --
    >
    > Barb Bowman
    > MS Windows-MVP
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/




  6. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    1. have you changed the SSID name from the default name that it
    shipped with?

    2. what router (brand, model, hardware revision) and version of
    firmware? have you checked for a firmware upgrade?

    3. does the Vista computer have the latest driver for the wireless?
    please post the text output of

    ipconfig /all

    run from a cmd prompt

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:02:19 -0000, "Bill" wrote:

    >Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    >changing to WPA asap.
    >
    >However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!
    >
    >Regards.
    >Bill.
    >
    >
    >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    >> Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    >>
    >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >>
    >> >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    >> >
    >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    >> >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    >> >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    >> >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    >> >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    >> >>
    >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >Hi All,
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my

    >daughters
    >> >new
    >> >> >Vista laptop
    >> >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected

    >but
    >> >the
    >> >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID. have
    >> >tried
    >> >> >manually setting it up without success.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Any ideas please?
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Cheers.
    >> >> >Bill.
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >

    >> --
    >>
    >> Barb Bowman
    >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    >

    --

    Barb Bowman
    MS Windows-MVP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

  7. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Yes have changed the SSID from the default.
    3Com Office Connect ADSL Wireless 11g Firewall Router.
    Firmware not bang up to date but checked recently and nearly there and
    latest fixes do not address anything that I have a problem with.
    Vista laptop (Dell) has latest driver for wireless. In fact everything I
    have checked, i.e. sound, video, BIOS have all been up to date.

    ipconfig/all :---
    ***
    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sarahs-PC
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
    Network)
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-D9-EC-0D-3B
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN
    Min
    i-Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-30-FD-62
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    fe80::4468:708a:99a8:e314%10(Preferred)
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2007 15:42:05
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 January 2144 02:41:17
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779916
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mfg.ie.dell.com
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
    Controlle
    r
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B3-29-AC
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2001:0:4136:e390:14d7:3698:3f57:fefb(Pref
    erred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    fe80::14d7:3698:3f57:fefb%8(Preferred)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mfg.ie.dell.com
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    isatap.{B32A5FBB-01C7-472F-9DE0-08FEA9DC2
    9ED}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    isatap.{C91A0A9C-8BD7-44F7-B4B3-A12C17C99
    7D2}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%14(Preferred)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    ***


    "Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    news:ltetm3dh62hi0b7kbhn9opo4b5d9fba90c@4ax.com...
    > 1. have you changed the SSID name from the default name that it
    > shipped with?
    >
    > 2. what router (brand, model, hardware revision) and version of
    > firmware? have you checked for a firmware upgrade?
    >
    > 3. does the Vista computer have the latest driver for the wireless?
    > please post the text output of
    >
    > ipconfig /all
    >
    > run from a cmd prompt
    >
    > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:02:19 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >
    > >Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    > >changing to WPA asap.
    > >
    > >However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!
    > >
    > >Regards.
    > >Bill.
    > >
    > >
    > >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    > >> Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    > >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    > >>
    > >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    > >> >
    > >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >> >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    > >> >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    > >> >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    > >> >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    > >> >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >Hi All,
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my

    > >daughters
    > >> >new
    > >> >> >Vista laptop
    > >> >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected

    > >but
    > >> >the
    > >> >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID.

    have
    > >> >tried
    > >> >> >manually setting it up without success.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Any ideas please?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Cheers.
    > >> >> >Bill.
    > >> >> --
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Barb Bowman
    > >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> >>

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    > >> >
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >> Barb Bowman
    > >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    > >

    > --
    >
    > Barb Bowman
    > MS Windows-MVP
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/




  8. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    is this
    http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/d...htype=purchase
    the router you have? or is it a different model (#?)- looks like the
    last firmware was June 2005. The only things I can recommend are:

    1. unbind IPv6 which for sure this router does not understand
    2. update to the last released firmware
    3. if this Dell 1505 is an Intel NIC, it is possible it will not
    connect at all unless you use WPA2 or WPA-AES given the bugs with
    the Intel based drivers.

    See
    http://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/Pro...=v&cid=712&g=d
    for a list of Vista certified compatible routers.



    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:17:21 -0000, "Bill" wrote:

    >Yes have changed the SSID from the default.
    >3Com Office Connect ADSL Wireless 11g Firewall Router.
    >Firmware not bang up to date but checked recently and nearly there and
    >latest fixes do not address anything that I have a problem with.
    >Vista laptop (Dell) has latest driver for wireless. In fact everything I
    >have checked, i.e. sound, video, BIOS have all been up to date.
    >
    >ipconfig/all :---
    >***
    >Windows IP Configuration
    >
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sarahs-PC
    > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >
    >Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:
    >
    > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
    >Network)
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-D9-EC-0D-3B
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >
    >Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN
    >Min
    >i-Card
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-30-FD-62
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    >fe80::4468:708a:99a8:e314%10(Preferred)
    > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2007 15:42:05
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 January 2144 02:41:17
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779916
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
    >
    >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >
    > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mfg.ie.dell.com
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
    >Controlle
    >r
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B3-29-AC
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >
    >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    >2001:0:4136:e390:14d7:3698:3f57:fefb(Pref
    >erred)
    > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    >fe80::14d7:3698:3f57:fefb%8(Preferred)
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    >
    >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
    >
    > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mfg.ie.dell.com
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >
    >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:
    >
    > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    >isatap.{B32A5FBB-01C7-472F-9DE0-08FEA9DC2
    >9ED}
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >
    >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    >isatap.{C91A0A9C-8BD7-44F7-B4B3-A12C17C99
    >7D2}
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%14(Preferred)
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    >***
    >
    >
    >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >news:ltetm3dh62hi0b7kbhn9opo4b5d9fba90c@4ax.com...
    >> 1. have you changed the SSID name from the default name that it
    >> shipped with?
    >>
    >> 2. what router (brand, model, hardware revision) and version of
    >> firmware? have you checked for a firmware upgrade?
    >>
    >> 3. does the Vista computer have the latest driver for the wireless?
    >> please post the text output of
    >>
    >> ipconfig /all
    >>
    >> run from a cmd prompt
    >>
    >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:02:19 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >>
    >> >Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    >> >changing to WPA asap.
    >> >
    >> >However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!
    >> >
    >> >Regards.
    >> >Bill.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    >> >> Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    >> >>
    >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >> >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    >> >> >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    >> >> >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will keep
    >> >> >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    >> >> >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >Hi All,
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my
    >> >daughters
    >> >> >new
    >> >> >> >Vista laptop
    >> >> >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it connected
    >> >but
    >> >> >the
    >> >> >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast SSID.

    >have
    >> >> >tried
    >> >> >> >manually setting it up without success.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Any ideas please?
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Cheers.
    >> >> >> >Bill.
    >> >> >> --
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> >>

    >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >> >
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >

    >> --
    >>
    >> Barb Bowman
    >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    >

    --

    Barb Bowman
    MS Windows-MVP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

  9. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    Ok, thanks, given me a bit to look at.

    Router was not quite right, this is it.

    http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/s...rch=3CRWDR100A

    I am at the 12 Oct 2005 of firmware version 2.06

    The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1521. Dunno whether the wireless is Intel or
    not, but probably is. Will check it out.

    Thanks for sticking with me.

    Regards.
    Bill.

    "Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    news:66mtm39dtjbl1ron6308chkgh3nsd6bqi1@4ax.com...
    > is this
    >

    http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/d...htype=purchase
    > the router you have? or is it a different model (#?)- looks like the
    > last firmware was June 2005. The only things I can recommend are:
    >
    > 1. unbind IPv6 which for sure this router does not understand
    > 2. update to the last released firmware
    > 3. if this Dell 1505 is an Intel NIC, it is possible it will not
    > connect at all unless you use WPA2 or WPA-AES given the bugs with
    > the Intel based drivers.
    >
    > See
    > http://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/Pro...=v&cid=712&g=d
    > for a list of Vista certified compatible routers.
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:17:21 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >
    > >Yes have changed the SSID from the default.
    > >3Com Office Connect ADSL Wireless 11g Firewall Router.
    > >Firmware not bang up to date but checked recently and nearly there and
    > >latest fixes do not address anything that I have a problem with.
    > >Vista laptop (Dell) has latest driver for wireless. In fact everything I
    > >have checked, i.e. sound, video, BIOS have all been up to date.
    > >
    > >ipconfig/all :---
    > >***
    > >Windows IP Configuration
    > >
    > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sarahs-PC
    > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > >
    > >Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:
    > >
    > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
    > >Network)
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-D9-EC-0D-3B
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > >
    > >Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n

    WLAN
    > >Min
    > >i-Card
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-30-FD-62
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    > >fe80::4468:708a:99a8:e314%10(Preferred)
    > > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
    > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2007 15:42:05
    > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 January 2144 02:41:17
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779916
    > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
    > >
    > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > >
    > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mfg.ie.dell.com
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
    > >Controlle
    > >r
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B3-29-AC
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > >
    > >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    > >2001:0:4136:e390:14d7:3698:3f57:fefb(Pref
    > >erred)
    > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    > >fe80::14d7:3698:3f57:fefb%8(Preferred)
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    > >
    > >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
    > >
    > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mfg.ie.dell.com
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > >
    > >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:
    > >
    > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    > >isatap.{B32A5FBB-01C7-472F-9DE0-08FEA9DC2
    > >9ED}
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > >
    > >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    > >isatap.{C91A0A9C-8BD7-44F7-B4B3-A12C17C99
    > >7D2}
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :

    fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%14(Preferred)
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    > >***
    > >
    > >
    > >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >news:ltetm3dh62hi0b7kbhn9opo4b5d9fba90c@4ax.com...
    > >> 1. have you changed the SSID name from the default name that it
    > >> shipped with?
    > >>
    > >> 2. what router (brand, model, hardware revision) and version of
    > >> firmware? have you checked for a firmware upgrade?
    > >>
    > >> 3. does the Vista computer have the latest driver for the wireless?
    > >> please post the text output of
    > >>
    > >> ipconfig /all
    > >>
    > >> run from a cmd prompt
    > >>
    > >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:02:19 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    > >> >changing to WPA asap.
    > >> >
    > >> >However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!
    > >> >
    > >> >Regards.
    > >> >Bill.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >> >news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    > >> >> Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    > >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    > >> >> >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    > >> >> >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    > >> >> >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will

    keep
    > >> >> >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    > >> >> >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >Hi All,
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my
    > >> >daughters
    > >> >> >new
    > >> >> >> >Vista laptop
    > >> >> >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it

    connected
    > >> >but
    > >> >> >the
    > >> >> >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast

    SSID.
    > >have
    > >> >> >tried
    > >> >> >> >manually setting it up without success.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Any ideas please?
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Cheers.
    > >> >> >> >Bill.
    > >> >> >> --
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> Barb Bowman
    > >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> >> >>

    > >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> --
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Barb Bowman
    > >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> >>

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    > >> >
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >> Barb Bowman
    > >> MS Windows-MVP
    > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    > >

    > --
    >
    > Barb Bowman
    > MS Windows-MVP
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    > http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/




  10. Re: Broadcast SSID Problem.

    try the April 2007 firmware (see the note about resetting to factory
    defaults). there may be some undocumented compat tweaks for Vista in
    this, considering the date.

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:57:17 -0000, "Bill" wrote:

    >Ok, thanks, given me a bit to look at.
    >
    >Router was not quite right, this is it.
    >
    >http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/s...rch=3CRWDR100A
    >
    >I am at the 12 Oct 2005 of firmware version 2.06
    >
    >The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1521. Dunno whether the wireless is Intel or
    >not, but probably is. Will check it out.
    >
    >Thanks for sticking with me.
    >
    >Regards.
    >Bill.
    >
    >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >news:66mtm39dtjbl1ron6308chkgh3nsd6bqi1@4ax.com...
    >> is this
    >>

    >http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/d...htype=purchase
    >> the router you have? or is it a different model (#?)- looks like the
    >> last firmware was June 2005. The only things I can recommend are:
    >>
    >> 1. unbind IPv6 which for sure this router does not understand
    >> 2. update to the last released firmware
    >> 3. if this Dell 1505 is an Intel NIC, it is possible it will not
    >> connect at all unless you use WPA2 or WPA-AES given the bugs with
    >> the Intel based drivers.
    >>
    >> See
    >> http://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/Pro...=v&cid=712&g=d
    >> for a list of Vista certified compatible routers.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:17:21 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >>
    >> >Yes have changed the SSID from the default.
    >> >3Com Office Connect ADSL Wireless 11g Firewall Router.
    >> >Firmware not bang up to date but checked recently and nearly there and
    >> >latest fixes do not address anything that I have a problem with.
    >> >Vista laptop (Dell) has latest driver for wireless. In fact everything I
    >> >have checked, i.e. sound, video, BIOS have all been up to date.
    >> >
    >> >ipconfig/all :---
    >> >***
    >> >Windows IP Configuration
    >> >
    >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sarahs-PC
    >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >> >
    >> >Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:
    >> >
    >> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
    >> >Network)
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-D9-EC-0D-3B
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> >
    >> >Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    >> >
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n

    >WLAN
    >> >Min
    >> >i-Card
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-30-FD-62
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    >> >fe80::4468:708a:99a8:e314%10(Preferred)
    >> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
    >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    >> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2007 15:42:05
    >> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 30 January 2144 02:41:17
    >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >> > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779916
    >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
    >> >
    >> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >> >
    >> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mfg.ie.dell.com
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
    >> >Controlle
    >> >r
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B3-29-AC
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> >
    >> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
    >> >
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    >> >2001:0:4136:e390:14d7:3698:3f57:fefb(Pref
    >> >erred)
    >> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
    >> >fe80::14d7:3698:3f57:fefb%8(Preferred)
    >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    >> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    >> >
    >> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
    >> >
    >> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mfg.ie.dell.com
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> >
    >> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:
    >> >
    >> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    >> >isatap.{B32A5FBB-01C7-472F-9DE0-08FEA9DC2
    >> >9ED}
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> >
    >> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
    >> >
    >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
    >> >isatap.{C91A0A9C-8BD7-44F7-B4B3-A12C17C99
    >> >7D2}
    >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    >> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :

    >fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%14(Preferred)
    >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    >> >***
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >news:ltetm3dh62hi0b7kbhn9opo4b5d9fba90c@4ax.com...
    >> >> 1. have you changed the SSID name from the default name that it
    >> >> shipped with?
    >> >>
    >> >> 2. what router (brand, model, hardware revision) and version of
    >> >> firmware? have you checked for a firmware upgrade?
    >> >>
    >> >> 3. does the Vista computer have the latest driver for the wireless?
    >> >> please post the text output of
    >> >>
    >> >> ipconfig /all
    >> >>
    >> >> run from a cmd prompt
    >> >>
    >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:02:19 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >Barb, have already looked it up. Thanks for the heads up. Will look at
    >> >> >changing to WPA asap.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >However I still have the problem with the Vista laptop!!
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Regards.
    >> >> >Bill.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >> >news:nu7tm3lb8sbs6c7g2m887ojds41dnlvpej@4ax.com...
    >> >> >> Bill, WEP is not safe. See if this helps:
    >> >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=464
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:21:01 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >I'm using 128 bit WEP. Is that ok?
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
    >> >> >> >news:8pksm3hnp2s448hcet6g7ejkfhas61og6k@4ax.com...
    >> >> >> >> Bill, NOT broadcasting the SSID isn't recommended as a security
    >> >> >> >> measure. You should be using WPA2 (or at least WPA) which will

    >keep
    >> >> >> >> others off your network. Anyone that really wants to find a non
    >> >> >> >> broadcasting SSID will be able to.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:27:27 -0000, "Bill" wrote:
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >Hi All,
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >I don't broadcast SSID on my home router and could not get my
    >> >> >daughters
    >> >> >> >new
    >> >> >> >> >Vista laptop
    >> >> >> >> >connected. Started to broadcast SSID on the router and it

    >connected
    >> >> >but
    >> >> >> >the
    >> >> >> >> >connection is lost when I reset the router to not broadcast

    >SSID.
    >> >have
    >> >> >> >tried
    >> >> >> >> >manually setting it up without success.
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Another XP laptop connects OK in the same circumstances.
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Any ideas please?
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Cheers.
    >> >> >> >> >Bill.
    >> >> >> >> --
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> --
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> >>

    >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >> >
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >> Barb Bowman
    >> >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
    >> >

    >> --
    >>
    >> Barb Bowman
    >> MS Windows-MVP
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

    >

    --

    Barb Bowman
    MS Windows-MVP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
    http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

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