Are your disks HP/Compaq firmwared disks?
Are they all identical sizes?


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> Hiya,
>
> I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> servers (one per server).
>
> When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> pending a response from HP.
>
> Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
>

On 3 Oct, 21:43, "David Turner, Island Computers" islandco.com> wrote:
> Are your disks HP/Compaq firmwared disks?
> Are they all identical sizes?
>
> wrote in message
>
> news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hiya,
>
> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> > servers (one per server).
>
> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> > pending a response from HP.
>
> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes to both David - some have 36GB hot pluggable disks on, other have
73GB.

Steve

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> Hiya,
>
> I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> servers (one per server).
>
> When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> pending a response from HP.
>
> Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
>

Can you show us what the errorlog entries are? From my vague recollection
you may get 1 or 2 SCSI Bus Resets logged at boot time as the IO autoconfig
mechanism triggers these and they end up getting logged by the device
drivers to the EMBs and ERRFMT then dumps those when it starts. We used to
field a number of calls like this in shared SCSI bus configs.

I assume you have these set correctly

On a 5302a

>>>set heap_expand 2MB

On a 5304a

>>>set heap_expand 4MB

Also the set command is correct

>>>set bootbios pya0


DT

wrote in message
news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> Hiya,
>
> I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> servers (one per server).
>
> When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> pending a response from HP.
>
> Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
>

On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" islandco.com> wrote:
> I assume you have these set correctly
>
> On a 5302a
>
> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>
> On a 5304a
>
> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>
> Also the set command is correct
>
> >>>set bootbios pya0
>
> DT
>
> wrote in message
>
> news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hiya,
>
> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> > servers (one per server).
>
> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> > pending a response from HP.
>
> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup, we've set those.

S.

Firmware version?

DT
wrote in message
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> On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" > islandco.com> wrote:
>> I assume you have these set correctly
>>
>> On a 5302a
>>
>> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>>
>> On a 5304a
>>
>> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>>
>> Also the set command is correct
>>
>> >>>set bootbios pya0
>>
>> DT
>>
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hiya,
>>
>> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
>> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>>
>> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
>> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
>> > servers (one per server).
>>
>> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
>> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
>> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>>
>> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
>> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
>> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
>> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
>> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
>> > pending a response from HP.
>>
>> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>>
>> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
>> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
>> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
>> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>>
>> > Thanks in advance
>>
>> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Yup, we've set those.
>
> S.
>

On 4 Oct, 16:32, "David Turner, Island Computers" islandco.com> wrote:
> Firmware version?
>
> DT wrote in message
>
> news:1191510262.273359.16290@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>
>
> > On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" > > islandco.com> wrote:
> >> I assume you have these set correctly
>
> >> On a 5302a
>
> >> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>
> >> On a 5304a
>
> >> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>
> >> Also the set command is correct
>
> >> >>>set bootbios pya0
>
> >> DT
>
> >> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >> > Hiya,
>
> >> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> >> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> >> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and, more
> >> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of Integrity
> >> > servers (one per server).
>
> >> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> >> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and behaves
> >> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> >> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> >> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> >> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit. This
> >> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> >> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> >> > pending a response from HP.
>
> >> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> >> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> >> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> >> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> >> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> >> > Thanks in advance
>
> >> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Yup, we've set those.
>
> > S.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not sure on the Alphas (there's a mix, but all recent) but the cards
are generally at the latest and greatest (IIRC, 2.76)

If they are 2.76 on the Smartarrays then that would be a problem
They are up to 3.56 now for Alpha

Suggest an upgrade with your F/W 7.3 CD

DT
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> On 4 Oct, 16:32, "David Turner, Island Computers" > islandco.com> wrote:
>> Firmware version?
>>
>> DT wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191510262.273359.16290@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" >> > islandco.com> wrote:
>> >> I assume you have these set correctly
>>
>> >> On a 5302a
>>
>> >> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>>
>> >> On a 5304a
>>
>> >> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>>
>> >> Also the set command is correct
>>
>> >> >>>set bootbios pya0
>>
>> >> DT
>>
>> >> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> >> > Hiya,
>>
>> >> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
>> >> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>>
>> >> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and,
>> >> > more
>> >> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of
>> >> > Integrity
>> >> > servers (one per server).
>>
>> >> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
>> >> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and
>> >> > behaves
>> >> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>>
>> >> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
>> >> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
>> >> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit.
>> >> > This
>> >> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
>> >> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
>> >> > pending a response from HP.
>>
>> >> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>>
>> >> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
>> >> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
>> >> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
>> >> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>>
>> >> > Thanks in advance
>>
>> >> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Yup, we've set those.
>>
>> > S.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Not sure on the Alphas (there's a mix, but all recent) but the cards
> are generally at the latest and greatest (IIRC, 2.76)
>

On 5 Oct, 15:50, "David Turner, Island Computers" islandco.com> wrote:
> If they are 2.76 on the Smartarrays then that would be a problem
> They are up to 3.56 now for Alpha
>
> Suggest an upgrade with your F/W 7.3 CD
>
> DT wrote in message
>
> news:1191587903.083663.283930@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 4 Oct, 16:32, "David Turner, Island Computers" > > islandco.com> wrote:
> >> Firmware version?
>
> >> DT wrote in message
>
> >>news:1191510262.273359.16290@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> >> > On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" > >> > islandco.com> wrote:
> >> >> I assume you have these set correctly
>
> >> >> On a 5302a
>
> >> >> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>
> >> >> On a 5304a
>
> >> >> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>
> >> >> Also the set command is correct
>
> >> >> >>>set bootbios pya0
>
> >> >> DT
>
> >> >> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >> >> > Hiya,
>
> >> >> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
> >> >> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>
> >> >> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and,
> >> >> > more
> >> >> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of
> >> >> > Integrity
> >> >> > servers (one per server).
>
> >> >> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
> >> >> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and
> >> >> > behaves
> >> >> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>
> >> >> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it we
> >> >> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were the
> >> >> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit.
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the other
> >> >> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be pulled,
> >> >> > pending a response from HP.
>
> >> >> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>
> >> >> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
> >> >> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to partition
> >> >> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can size
> >> >> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>
> >> >> > Thanks in advance
>
> >> >> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > Yup, we've set those.
>
> >> > S.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Not sure on the Alphas (there's a mix, but all recent) but the cards
> > are generally at the latest and greatest (IIRC, 2.76)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That's why I said IIRC. I didn't.
The firmware version for the 5302A is 3.56. the one for the 6402A is
2.76

I assume you have also checked to make sure all the disks you have added are
up to date firmware-wise.
I know we had compatibility issues with U320 drives running with U3 drives.
There are so so many updates done to these drives.

wrote in message
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> On 5 Oct, 15:50, "David Turner, Island Computers" > islandco.com> wrote:
>> If they are 2.76 on the Smartarrays then that would be a problem
>> They are up to 3.56 now for Alpha
>>
>> Suggest an upgrade with your F/W 7.3 CD
>>
>> DT wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191587903.083663.283930@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 4 Oct, 16:32, "David Turner, Island Computers" >> > islandco.com> wrote:
>> >> Firmware version?
>>
>> >> DT wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1191510262.273359.16290@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>>
>> >> > On 4 Oct, 16:02, "David Turner, Island Computers" >> >> > islandco.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I assume you have these set correctly
>>
>> >> >> On a 5302a
>>
>> >> >> >>>set heap_expand 2MB
>>
>> >> >> On a 5304a
>>
>> >> >> >>>set heap_expand 4MB
>>
>> >> >> Also the set command is correct
>>
>> >> >> >>>set bootbios pya0
>>
>> >> >> DT
>>
>> >> >> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:1191425849.767217.202610@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > Hiya,
>>
>> >> >> > I've got about five logs open with support at the moment, but I'm
>> >> >> > wondering if anyone else has experienced similar...
>>
>> >> >> > I've got a mix of 5302A and 6402A SmartArray cards in Alphas and,
>> >> >> > more
>> >> >> > recently, a couple of A9890A 6402 SmartArrays in a couple of
>> >> >> > Integrity
>> >> >> > servers (one per server).
>>
>> >> >> > When the system boots, the system logs errors against the PK port
>> >> >> > device (SCSI bus resets maybe?) then, usually, calms down and
>> >> >> > behaves
>> >> >> > itself. The disks never log any errors.
>>
>> >> >> > At first we thought maybe a bad card. When a second one did it
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > thought maybe the MSA30 shelves that they are connected to were
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > culprits, maybe having their interface cards damaged in transit.
>> >> >> > This
>> >> >> > weekend, we had problems on an Integrity which has caused the
>> >> >> > other
>> >> >> > SmartArray and MSA30 installations that were planned to be
>> >> >> > pulled,
>> >> >> > pending a response from HP.
>>
>> >> >> > Anybody seen this kind of behaviour before?
>>
>> >> >> > Full config is VMS (either Alpha or I64), 8.2 on Alpha and 8.3 on
>> >> >> > I64. RAID software v3.0 on both platforms to enable us to
>> >> >> > partition
>> >> >> > the disk that the SmartArray is configured with so that we can
>> >> >> > size
>> >> >> > the DPA devices that VMS sees appropriately.
>>
>> >> >> > Thanks in advance
>>
>> >> >> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> > Yup, we've set those.
>>
>> >> > S.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Not sure on the Alphas (there's a mix, but all recent) but the cards
>> > are generally at the latest and greatest (IIRC, 2.76)- Hide quoted
>> > text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> That's why I said IIRC. I didn't.
> The firmware version for the 5302A is 3.56. the one for the 6402A is
> 2.76
>