On Sep 18, 4:22*pm, "Tom Linden" wrote:
> I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
> connected from an Alpha using
> SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>
> it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
> garbage. *What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?

Which port are you connected to, the CONSOLE port on the rx itself or
the management processor?

This anyway, I've got a null modem cable hooked up to the CONSOLE port
(not the MP) and this is the terminal settings shown by VMS once
logged in (the other end is an OS X box running ckermit):

$ show term
Terminal: _OPA0: Device_Type: VT100 Owner: SYSTEM

Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24

Terminal Characteristics:
Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase Tab
Wrap Scope No Remote No
Eightbit
Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
No Modem No Local_echo No Autobaud No Hangup
No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
No Commsync Line Editing Overstrike editing No
Fallback
No Dialup No Secure server No Disconnect No Pasthru
No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer
Port
Numeric Keypad ANSI_CRT No Regis No
Block_mode
Advanced_video No Edit_mode DEC_CRT No
DEC_CRT2
No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4 No DEC_CRT5 No
Ansi_Color
VMS Style Input Backspace


On a related note, does anyone know how I get the MP to act as the
OPA0: VMS console?

Sampsa

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On a related note, does anyone know how I get the MP to act as the
OPA0: VMS console?


At the EFI menu, select the boot options and change the default
input/output/error devices from the UART on the BMC console to the other
UART which is part of the MP. VMS will then use that device. Personally, I
connect to all my MP's via IP using PuTTY and only use the serial line the
first time to config the MP lan device.

John

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:31:10 -0700, John Reagan
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
> news:0b50f3ac-f986-4504-8081-80e486b306d3@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> On a related note, does anyone know how I get the MP to act as the
> OPA0: VMS console?
>
>
> At the EFI menu, select the boot options and change the default
> input/output/error devices from the UART on the BMC console to the other
> UART which is part of the MP. VMS will then use that device.
> Personally, I
> connect to all my MP's via IP using PuTTY and only use the serial line
> the
> first time to config the MP lan device.

John, maybe you know, when in the efi shell, the prompt always appears in
the
same location in the window (connected from TTA0 on an alpha to the 232
console
port of the 2600) and overwrites what was there. How do you get it to
properly
scroll, and turn off the annoying reverse video.


>
> John
>
>



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"Tom Linden" wrote in message
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> John, maybe you know, when in the efi shell, the prompt always appears in
> the
> same location in the window (connected from TTA0 on an alpha to the 232
> console
> port of the 2600) and overwrites what was there. How do you get it to
> properly
> scroll, and turn off the annoying reverse video.

No, I just swear under my breath and use 'cls' to clear the screen.

John

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:15:46 -0700, John Reagan
wrote:

>
> "Tom Linden" wrote in message
> newsp.uhr7ajy0hv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net...
>> John, maybe you know, when in the efi shell, the prompt always appears
>> in
>> the
>> same location in the window (connected from TTA0 on an alpha to the 232
>> console
>> port of the 2600) and overwrites what was there. How do you get it to
>> properly
>> scroll, and turn off the annoying reverse video.
>
> No, I just swear under my breath and use 'cls' to clear the screen.
>
> John
>
>
Sure miss SRM.



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In article , "Tom Linden" writes:
>On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:15:46 -0700, John Reagan
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Tom Linden" wrote in message
>> newsp.uhr7ajy0hv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net...
>>> John, maybe you know, when in the efi shell, the prompt always appears
>>> in
>>> the
>>> same location in the window (connected from TTA0 on an alpha to the 232
>>> console
>>> port of the 2600) and overwrites what was there. How do you get it to
>>> properly
>>> scroll, and turn off the annoying reverse video.
>>
>> No, I just swear under my breath and use 'cls' to clear the screen.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>Sure miss SRM.

I've patched the HP in the initial:

HP OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 Operating System, Version Vmaj.min

to output c.

As soon as VMS boots, the screen is back to normal.

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:22:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:

> I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
> connected from an Alpha using
> SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>
> it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
> garbage. What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?
>
> Tom
>
I connected a pigtail to to the MP port and to that a cable
from TTA0 on an Alpha, nothing.

I have the terminal at 9600-N-8-1, should it be something else?
Same cable works on the console port (not on the MP)


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On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:17:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:22:57 -0700, Tom Linden
> wrote:
>
>> I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
>> connected from an Alpha using
>> SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>>
>> it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
>> garbage. What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?
>>
>> Tom
>>
> I connected a pigtail to to the MP port and to that a cable
> from TTA0 on an Alpha, nothing.
>
> I have the terminal at 9600-N-8-1, should it be something else?
> Same cable works on the console port (not on the MP)
>
>
I also note that whereas the light comes on the NIC on the system, the
one on the MP remains black. I wonder if I have a bad MP?



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Tom Linden wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:22:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:
>
>> I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
>> connected from an Alpha using
>> SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>>
>> it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
>> garbage. What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?
>>
>> Tom
>>
> I connected a pigtail to to the MP port and to that a cable
> from TTA0 on an Alpha, nothing.
>
> I have the terminal at 9600-N-8-1, should it be something else?
> Same cable works on the console port (not on the MP)
>
>

Nothing generally means that nothing is being written to the port!
9600/8/N/1 is the default but someone could have set the port to
something else.

Try this.

1) Make sure you have a serial cable hooked to the console port on the 3
connector pig tail

2) From Alpha set host/dte to TTA0

3) Press the reset button for the MP console it is next to the connector for
the 3 port cable

4) If the MP is working that should output a prompt on the console port I
forget the
exact syntax something about complete reset. That wipes every setting
in the MP
out and takes them back to the factory default.


Forrest

On Sep 24, 11:17*am, "Tom Linden" wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:22:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:
> > I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
> > connected from an Alpha using
> > SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>
> > it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
> > garbage. *What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?
>
> > Tom
>
> I connected a pigtail to to the MP port and to that a cable
> *from TTA0 on an Alpha, *nothing.
>
> I have the terminal at 9600-N-8-1, should it be something else?
> Same cable works on the console port (not on the MP)
>
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Try resetting the MP; there is a little button on the back to do that.
Also, you might need to put a null modem cable between the two
systems, both are DCE I think. I definately had to using a PC serial
port. Once you reset the MP, you can assign it an IP address and do
away with the serial cable, except in emergencies.

Also, once you get into the machine, go into the EFI Boot Option
Maintenance Menu and select your terminal to be VT100. It is probably
set to either ANSI or VT100+. Be sure to set standard in, stadout and
error to all be the same. The MP consoles are
the ones that have both "PCI" and "UART" in them; the console serial
port just says UART. The VGA port just says PCI. You will probably
need to be sure you do not have a keyboard and mouse plugged in to IPL
andload VMS.

Lastly, if you have not upgraded the firmware, it is (at least to me)
a bit of a nerve wracking task, but doing it is well worth the time
and effort. The machines I received here had very old firmware in
them. You have to upgrade it in stages, four separate stages I think,
and at least the first one will probably have to be via FTP. Do not
trust a USB DVD drive until you have the firmware updated!
You can wind up with a dead machine if something goes wrong on the
firmware upgrade. There isn't any failsafe, as in SRM.

Note that once you have it all running, the firmware, EFI and MP, is
really nice and a pleasure to use.

-Paul


The MP ports are the ones that say

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:16:57 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
wrote:

>
> Try this.
>
> 1) Make sure you have a serial cable hooked to the console port on the 3
> connector pig tail
>
> 2) From Alpha set host/dte to TTA0
>
> 3) Press the reset button for the MP console it is next to the connector
> for
> the 3 port cable
>
> 4) If the MP is working that should output a prompt on the console port
> I
> forget the
> exact syntax something about complete reset. That wipes every
> setting
> in the MP
> out and takes them back to the factory default.

I had already tried all that. Also the LED on the MP ethernet port is not
lit. Should it be? The circuits get warm.


>
>
> Forrest
>
>



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If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
may have a non-functional Management Processor module.


Forrest

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:32:06 -0700, PR wrote:

> On Sep 24, 11:17*am, "Tom Linden" wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:22:57 -0700, Tom Linden
>> wrote:
>> > I got one of those RX2600 and in trying to talk to the console
>> > connected from an Alpha using
>> > SET HOST/DTE TTA0
>>
>> > it keeps trying to refresh the screen and eventually ends with
>> > garbage. *What should be the terminal settings on the Alpha?
>>
>> > Tom
>>
>> I connected a pigtail to to the MP port and to that a cable
>> *from TTA0 on an Alpha, *nothing.
>>
>> I have the terminal at 9600-N-8-1, should it be something else?
>> Same cable works on the console port (not on the MP)
>>
>> --
>> PL/I for OpenVMSwww.kednos.com
>
> Try resetting the MP; there is a little button on the back to do that.
> Also, you might need to put a null modem cable between the two
> systems, both are DCE I think. I definately had to using a PC serial
> port. Once you reset the MP, you can assign it an IP address and do
> away with the serial cable, except in emergencies.
>
> Also, once you get into the machine, go into the EFI Boot Option
> Maintenance Menu and select your terminal to be VT100. It is probably
> set to either ANSI or VT100+. Be sure to set standard in, stadout and
> error to all be the same. The MP consoles are
> the ones that have both "PCI" and "UART" in them; the console serial
> port just says UART. The VGA port just says PCI. You will probably
> need to be sure you do not have a keyboard and mouse plugged in to IPL
> andload VMS.

Couldn't find that, I was in the shell> prompt so did an exit and now it is
outputting continuosly

System Configuration Menu. Select an Option

EFI System Configuration Menu

System Configuration Menu. Select an Option

and is unresponsive

Got out an back in (this from set host/dte on an alpha)

%REM-E-PORTRXERR, port receive error
-SYSTEM-W-DATAOVERUN, data overrun


>
> Lastly, if you have not upgraded the firmware, it is (at least to me)
> a bit of a nerve wracking task, but doing it is well worth the time
> and effort. The machines I received here had very old firmware in
> them. You have to upgrade it in stages, four separate stages I think,
> and at least the first one will probably have to be via FTP. Do not
> trust a USB DVD drive until you have the firmware updated!
> You can wind up with a dead machine if something goes wrong on the
> firmware upgrade. There isn't any failsafe, as in SRM.
>
> Note that once you have it all running, the firmware, EFI and MP, is
> really nice and a pleasure to use.
>
> -Paul
>
>
> The MP ports are the ones that say



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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:20 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
wrote:

> If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
> the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
> may have a non-functional Management Processor module.
>
I will check that when I get to the office. I was referring to the MP
ethernet
port.

>
> Forrest
>
>



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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:58:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:20 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
> wrote:
>
>> If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
>> the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
>> may have a non-functional Management Processor module.
>>
> I will check that when I get to the office. I was referring to the MP
> ethernet
> port.
>
>>
>> Forrest
>>
Turns out that the printed ribbon cable with the small connect
to the monitor board was loose. Now I can see the MP.

However, coming from the alpha over tta0 with set host/dte
the screen continually refreshes and the up down arrows down do
anything.

Here are the TTA0 settings

Terminal: _TTA0: Device_Type: Unknown Owner: No Owner

Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24

Terminal Characteristics:
Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase No Tab
Wrap Scope No Remote Eightbit
Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
No Modem No Local_echo Autobaud No Hangup
No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
No Commsync Line Editing Overstrike editing No Fallback
No Dialup No Secure server Disconnect No Pasthru
No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer Port
Numeric Keypad No ANSI_CRT No Regis No Block_mode
No Advanced_video No Edit_mode No DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2
No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4 No DEC_CRT5 No Ansi_Color
VMS Style Input Backspace

I also tried from a W2K box using hypeterm and similar crap.













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At 09:35 AM 9/25/2008, Tom Linden wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:58:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:20 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
>>>the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
>>>may have a non-functional Management Processor module.
>>I will check that when I get to the office. I was referring to the MP
>>ethernet
>>port.
>>
>>>
>>>Forrest
>Turns out that the printed ribbon cable with the small connect
>to the monitor board was loose. Now I can see the MP.
>
>However, coming from the alpha over tta0 with set host/dte
>the screen continually refreshes and the up down arrows down do
>anything.
>
>Here are the TTA0 settings
>
>Terminal: _TTA0: Device_Type: Unknown Owner: No Owner
>
> Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
> Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24
>
>Terminal Characteristics:
> Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
> No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase No Tab
> Wrap Scope No Remote Eightbit
> Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
> No Modem No Local_echo Autobaud No Hangup
> No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
> No Commsync Line Editing Overstrike editing No Fallback
> No Dialup No Secure server Disconnect No Pasthru
> No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer Port
> Numeric Keypad No ANSI_CRT No Regis No Block_mode
> No Advanced_video No Edit_mode No DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2
> No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4 No DEC_CRT5 No Ansi_Color
> VMS Style Input Backspace
>
>I also tried from a W2K box using hypeterm and similar crap.

Is your firmware at the latest rev? I found the EFI terminal emulation
increased markedly in quality once I upgraded mine.


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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:52:01 -0700, Dan O'Reilly wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 9/25/2008, Tom Linden wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:58:57 -0700, Tom Linden
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:20 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
>>>> the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
>>>> may have a non-functional Management Processor module.
>>> I will check that when I get to the office. I was referring to the MP
>>> ethernet
>>> port.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forrest
>> Turns out that the printed ribbon cable with the small connect
>> to the monitor board was loose. Now I can see the MP.
>>
>> However, coming from the alpha over tta0 with set host/dte
>> the screen continually refreshes and the up down arrows down do
>> anything.
>>
>> Here are the TTA0 settings
>>
>> Terminal: _TTA0: Device_Type: Unknown Owner: No Owner
>>
>> Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
>> Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24
>>
>> Terminal Characteristics:
>> Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
>> No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase No Tab
>> Wrap Scope No Remote Eightbit
>> Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
>> No Modem No Local_echo Autobaud No Hangup
>> No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
>> No Commsync Line Editing Overstrike editing No Fallback
>> No Dialup No Secure server Disconnect No Pasthru
>> No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer
>> Port
>> Numeric Keypad No ANSI_CRT No Regis No
>> Block_mode
>> No Advanced_video No Edit_mode No DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2
>> No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4 No DEC_CRT5 No
>> Ansi_Color
>> VMS Style Input Backspace
>>
>> I also tried from a W2K box using hypeterm and similar crap.
>
> Is your firmware at the latest rev? I found the EFI terminal emulation
> increased markedly in quality once I upgraded mine.

I was having trouble talking to it, but following Pauls formulae I reset
to VT100


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In article , "Tom Linden" writes:
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:58:57 -0700, Tom Linden wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:42:20 -0700, forrret.kenney@hp.com_nospam
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is power to the system you should get at least on LED on
>>> the LAB connector for the MP. If there is no LED looks like you
>>> may have a non-functional Management Processor module.
>>>
>> I will check that when I get to the office. I was referring to the MP
>> ethernet
>> port.
>>
>>>
>>> Forrest
>>>
>Turns out that the printed ribbon cable with the small connect
>to the monitor board was loose. Now I can see the MP.
>
>However, coming from the alpha over tta0 with set host/dte
>the screen continually refreshes and the up down arrows down do
>anything.
>
>Here are the TTA0 settings
>
>Terminal: _TTA0: Device_Type: Unknown Owner: No Owner
>
> Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
> Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24
>
>Terminal Characteristics:
> Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
> No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase No Tab
> Wrap Scope No Remote Eightbit
> Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
> No Modem No Local_echo Autobaud No Hangup
> No Brdcstmbx No DMA No Altypeahd Set_speed
> No Commsync Line Editing Overstrike editing No Fallback
> No Dialup No Secure server Disconnect No Pasthru
> No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer Port
> Numeric Keypad No ANSI_CRT No Regis No Block_mode
> No Advanced_video No Edit_mode No DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2
> No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4 No DEC_CRT5 No Ansi_Color
> VMS Style Input Backspace
>
>I also tried from a W2K box using hypeterm and similar crap.


Tom,

Where are you trying to use the arrow-keys? The menus at the MP are entered
with, usually, two letter commands. For example: CM, CO, CL, SL, etc. The
only place I recall the arrows working is in the COnsole menu.

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