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  1. HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    BBC reports this morning that HP is to axe 24,600 jobs worldwide, half
    of which will be in the USA. There is mention that is is related to the
    recent acquisition of EDS. This cut represents 7.4% of its workforce.

    Since VMS was recently compacted from ist original ZKO size to fit into
    a couple of spare offices in the basement of some existing HP building,
    it is not known how many job cuts VMS will get this time around.

    Good luck to VMS engineering/admin staff.

  2. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    JF Mezei wrote:
    > BBC reports this morning that HP is to axe 24,600 jobs worldwide, half
    > of which will be in the USA. There is mention that is is related to the
    > recent acquisition of EDS. This cut represents 7.4% of its workforce.
    >
    > Since VMS was recently compacted from ist original ZKO size to fit into
    > a couple of spare offices in the basement of some existing HP building,
    > it is not known how many job cuts VMS will get this time around.
    >
    > Good luck to VMS engineering/admin staff.




    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin


    Hewlett-Packard to slash 24,600 jobs


    United States technology giant Hewlett-Packard has announced it will slash
    24,600 jobs worldwide over the next three years.

    The cuts are part of its integration with computer services firm Electronic
    Data Systems.

    The job cuts would allow HP "to restructure the EDS business group to
    streamline costs,
    invest in growth and drive shareholder value," HP said in a statement.

    About 7.5 per cent of the combined work force would be affected, with about
    half of the
    cuts taking place in the United States, HP said.

    The work force reduction aims to "streamline the combined company's services
    businesses,"
    and once complete is expected to "result in annual cost savings of
    approximately $2.2 billion."

    In May, HP inked a deal to buy the Texas-based technology company for $US25
    per share.
    After approval by shareholders as well as US and foreign regulators, the
    acquisition was
    finalised in August.

    The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and 210,000
    employees, operating in more than 80 countries.

    The deal was expected to create a global powerhouse in computer services to
    compete
    against IBM.

    - AFP
    --------------------------------------------

    Cheers, Csaba

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  3. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    none of this is a surprise and they have said they are cutting HR,
    finance etc as well.

    I wish they cut a few layers of management but I don't expect that to
    happen.

  4. Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    In article <48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton writes:
    >{...snip...}
    >
    > Cheers, Csaba
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:
    >
    > You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track.


    Csaba, I checked out your blogspot and saw a mention of progressive rock.
    Check out my internet radio station (Aural Moon) if you're interested in
    prog.

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    .... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
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  5. Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
    > In article<48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton writes:
    >> {...snip...}
    >>
    >> Cheers, Csaba
    >>
    >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com
    >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:
    >>
    >> You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track.

    >
    > Csaba, I checked out your blogspot and saw a mention of progressive rock.
    > Check out my internet radio station (Aural Moon) if you're interested in
    > prog.


    Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times.
    Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European
    70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) )

    Not really an aficionado, just getting into it, retrospectively, as I didn't
    have the opportunity in my youth in communist Hungary...
    The 'net is a godsend in this respect, lots of old music is out there in
    P2P world :-)

    Cheers, Csaba

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    You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track.

  6. Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton
    writes:

    > Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times.
    > Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European
    > 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) )


    At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode
    of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on
    VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have a
    new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s
    prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died.


  7. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    IanMiller wrote:
    > none of this is a surprise and they have said they are cutting HR,
    > finance etc as well.
    >
    > I wish they cut a few layers of management but I don't expect that to
    > happen.


    I expect you're right. The "two story outhouse" you know. . . !

  8. RE: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply
    > [mailto:helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de]
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:47 AM
    > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
    > Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]
    >
    > In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton
    > writes:
    >
    > > Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few

    > times.
    > > Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare

    > European
    > > 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-)

    > )
    >
    > At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode
    > of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on
    > VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have
    > a
    > new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s
    > prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died.


    Saturn is not only a OpenVMS Integrity Customer, but also a great
    testimonial:

    http://tinyurl.com/2ne7cu
    (PDF + video testimonial)

    Making great music ..

    :-)

    Regards

    Kerry Main
    Senior Consultant
    HP Services Canada
    Voice: 613-254-8911
    Fax: 613-591-4477
    kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom
    (remove the DOT's and AT)

    OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.





  9. Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    In article , helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:
    >In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton
    > writes:
    >
    >> Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times.
    >> Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European
    >> 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) )

    >
    >At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode
    >of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on
    >VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have a


    Cool!


    >new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s
    >prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died.


    Back off topic...

    I've seen Nektar in the '70s and recently, even photographed them, a few
    years ago. They will be playing as a headliner at a festival in May '09
    here in the states. I the official photographer for that fest too.

    Sad about Richard Wright. I queued up "Great Gig In The Sky" as soon as
    I heard the news since he's playing that gig now.

    --
    VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM

    .... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
    no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

    Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
    of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
    notice, disclaimer and quotations.

  10. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    Phaeton wrote:
    > [snip]
    > The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and 210,000
    > employees, [snip]


    ....less than .001% of whom can spell "VMS".

    D.J.D.

  11. Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    Main, Kerry wrote:
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply
    >> [mailto:helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de]
    >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:47 AM
    >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
    >> Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]
    >>
    >> In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton
    >> writes:
    >>
    >>> Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few

    >> times.
    >>> Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare

    >> European
    >>> 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-)

    >> )
    >>
    >> At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode
    >> of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on
    >> VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have
    >> a
    >> new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s
    >> prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died.

    >
    > Saturn is not only a OpenVMS Integrity Customer, but also a great
    > testimonial:
    >
    > http://tinyurl.com/2ne7cu
    > (PDF + video testimonial)
    >
    > Making great music ..
    >
    > :-)
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Kerry Main
    > Senior Consultant
    > HP Services Canada
    > Voice: 613-254-8911
    > Fax: 613-591-4477
    > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom
    > (remove the DOT's and AT)
    >
    > OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.


    Wonder what they use to serve the music snippets? Is it a streaming
    server, or do the listening stations select and download the various MP3
    files?

    I'd like to use my home cluster as a media server. What stuff do you
    think I'd need to download/port to make it work?


  12. Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs]

    In article , Marty Kuhrt writes:
    >{...snip...}
    >Wonder what they use to serve the music snippets? Is it a streaming
    >server, or do the listening stations select and download the various MP3
    > files?
    >
    >I'd like to use my home cluster as a media server. What stuff do you
    >think I'd need to download/port to make it work?


    When I get some time, I'm hell bent on getting Shoutcast ported to VMS.
    IDJC would be the next item. Now, if only there was time.

    --
    VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM

    .... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
    no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

    Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
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  13. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    On Sep 16, 6:11*pm, David J Dachtera
    wrote:
    > Phaeton wrote:
    > > [snip]
    > > The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and 210,000
    > > employees, *[snip]

    >
    > ...less than .001% of whom can spell "VMS".
    >
    > D.J.D.


    The percentage is higher than that.

  14. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs

    IanMiller wrote:

    >> ...less than .001% of whom can spell "VMS".
    >>
    >> D.J.D.

    >
    > The percentage is higher than that.


    Is the correct number closer to 0.002% then ? (HP employees who can
    spell VMS)

  15. Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs


    "Phaeton" wrote in message
    news:48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au...
    > JF Mezei wrote:
    >> BBC reports this morning that HP is to axe 24,600 jobs worldwide, half
    >> of which will be in the USA. There is mention that is is related to the
    >> recent acquisition of EDS. This cut represents 7.4% of its workforce.
    >>
    >> Since VMS was recently compacted from ist original ZKO size to fit into
    >> a couple of spare offices in the basement of some existing HP building,
    >> it is not known how many job cuts VMS will get this time around.
    >>
    >> Good luck to VMS engineering/admin staff.

    >
    >
    >
    > http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin
    >
    >
    > Hewlett-Packard to slash 24,600 jobs
    >
    >
    > United States technology giant Hewlett-Packard has announced it will slash
    > 24,600 jobs worldwide over the next three years.
    >
    > The cuts are part of its integration with computer services firm
    > Electronic Data Systems.
    >
    > The job cuts would allow HP "to restructure the EDS business group to
    > streamline costs,
    > invest in growth and drive shareholder value," HP said in a statement.
    >
    > About 7.5 per cent of the combined work force would be affected, with
    > about half of the
    > cuts taking place in the United States, HP said.
    >
    > The work force reduction aims to "streamline the combined company's
    > services businesses,"
    > and once complete is expected to "result in annual cost savings of
    > approximately $2.2 billion."
    >
    > In May, HP inked a deal to buy the Texas-based technology company for
    > $US25 per share.
    > After approval by shareholders as well as US and foreign regulators, the
    > acquisition was
    > finalised in August.
    >
    > The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and
    > 210,000
    > employees, operating in more than 80 countries.
    >
    > The deal was expected to create a global powerhouse in computer services
    > to compete
    > against IBM.
    >
    > - AFP
    > --------------------------------------------
    >
    > Cheers, Csaba



    When announcements like these are made the majority of the cuts will be made
    in the divisions mentioned in the news release, but large numbers of cuts
    will be made in other divisions as well -- using the big cuts as a
    smokescreen.

    Companies the size of HP will aggregate the upcoming cuts into one
    announcement rather than sending out press releases month after month for
    500 jobs lost here or there. One press release, one news cycle, now look at
    all the shiny new toys we have to sell you. Story over. Next.




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