Putting my Vax in the network

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Old 08-26-2008, 10:13 AM
Default Putting my Vax in the network

Hi:
Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
I made a reboot in this system but I´m getting this message:

vax01> set host vax02


%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable
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  #2  
Old 08-26-2008, 11:13 AM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi:
> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
> I made a reboot in this system but I´m getting this message:
>
> vax01> set host vax02
>
>
> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable


We can't tell you much until you tell us more.

What sort of network do you have? Thick wire Ethernet, thinwire
Ethernet, UTP Ethernet. . . ???

What networking software are you using? DECnet? TCP/IP? If the
latter, which TCP/IP stack are you using. Which version. Which version
of VMS?

Please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Old 08-26-2008, 11:25 AM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6f22@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes:
>Hi:
>Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>
>vax01> set host vax02
>
>
>%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable


Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?

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Old 08-26-2008, 11:35 AM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6f22@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes:
>> Hi:
>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>
>> vax01> set host vax02
>>
>>
>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>
> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?


Yes, it must be. She/he would get a "Remote node is unknown"
error message if it weren't.

$ set ho titan
Remote node is not currently reachable
$ set ho xxxxx
Remote node is unknown
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  #5  
Old 08-26-2008, 11:38 AM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

On Aug 26, 12:25*pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups..com>, apogeusiste...@gmail.com writes:
>
> >Hi:
> >Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
> >I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:

>
> >vax01> set host vax02

>
> >%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>
> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?
>
> --
> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker * * *VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
>
> ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
> no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)
>
> Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. *Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
> of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
> notice, disclaimer and quotations.




vax01 » ucx sh version

DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
on a MicroVAX 3100-90 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4

vax01 » ucx sh service

Service Port Proto Process Address
State

BOOTP 67 UDP UCX$BOOTP
0.0.0.0 Enabled
FTP 21 TCP UCX$FTPD
0.0.0.0 Enabled
SMTP 25 TCP UCX$SMTP
0.0.0.0 Enabled
TELNET 23 TCP not defined
0.0.0.0 Enabled
TFTP 69 UDP UCX$TFTP
0.0.0.0 Enabled
vax01 » telnet vax02
%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 172.15.14.22
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  #6  
Old 08-26-2008, 12:00 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 26, 12:25 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusiste...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>> vax01> set host vax02
>>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?
>>
>> --
>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
>>
>> ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
>> no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)
>>
>> Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
>> of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
>> notice, disclaimer and quotations.

>
>
>
> vax01 » ucx sh version
>
> DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> on a MicroVAX 3100-90 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>
> vax01 » ucx sh service
>
> Service Port Proto Process Address
> State
>
> BOOTP 67 UDP UCX$BOOTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> FTP 21 TCP UCX$FTPD
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> SMTP 25 TCP UCX$SMTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TELNET 23 TCP not defined
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TFTP 69 UDP UCX$TFTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> vax01 » telnet vax02
> %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 172.15.14.22


Are vax01 and vax02 even *conneted* to each other ?
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  #7  
Old 08-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:38:16 -0700, wrote:

> On Aug 26, 12:25*pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article
>> <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>> apogeusiste...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> >Hi:
>> >Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>> >I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:

>>
>> >vax01> set host vax02

>>
>> >%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>>
>> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?
>>
>> --
>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker
>> * * *VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
>>
>> ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional
>> protection
>> no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be.
>> (NJSC)
>>
>> Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. *Publication of _this_ usenet article
>> outside
>> of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this
>> copyright
>> notice, disclaimer and quotations.

>
>
>
> vax01 » ucx sh version
>
> DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> on a MicroVAX 3100-90 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>
> vax01 » ucx sh service
>
> Service Port Proto Process Address
> State
>
> BOOTP 67 UDP UCX$BOOTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> FTP 21 TCP UCX$FTPD
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> SMTP 25 TCP UCX$SMTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TELNET 23 TCP not defined
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TFTP 69 UDP UCX$TFTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> vax01 » telnet vax02
> %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 172.15.14.22


What is VAX02 and which services are enabled there?

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6f22@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes:
> Hi:
> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>
> vax01> set host vax02
>
>
> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable



Well, all you've really told us is "it doesn't work" when you try
a DECnet terminal connection. I could spend a long time suggesting
reasons it might not work. Could you rule out a few?

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:29 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <00A7EAF6.EC826887@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>
> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?
>

I would think lack of definition would return a different error.

Of course, errant definition could contribute.

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:31 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 26, 12:25 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusiste...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>> vax01> set host vax02
>>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?
>>
>> --
>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
>>
>> ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
>> no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)
>>
>> Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
>> of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
>> notice, disclaimer and quotations.

>
>
>
> vax01 » ucx sh version
>
> DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> on a MicroVAX 3100-90 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>
> vax01 » ucx sh service
>
> Service Port Proto Process Address
> State
>
> BOOTP 67 UDP UCX$BOOTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> FTP 21 TCP UCX$FTPD
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> SMTP 25 TCP UCX$SMTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TELNET 23 TCP not defined
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> TFTP 69 UDP UCX$TFTP
> 0.0.0.0 Enabled
> vax01 » telnet vax02
> %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 172.15.14.22


Alright, now show us the output of
a. ucx show version, and
b. ucx show service

Are both machines on the same subnet: 172....

FWIW, UCX V3.3 is just barely out of the dark ages of computing! VMS
V5.5-2 is the lowest version with Y2K support.

The last time I looked (years ago) UCX 5.x and VMS V7.x were current.
Is there some reason why you must run these antiques?

UCX V3.3 is something that anyone in his right mind wants to forget.
UCX V3.3 is one of the reasons that I'm no longer in my right mind!!!
If you have not installed ECO 13 (at least) SMTP, and perhaps other
services, will not work properly (or at all). Since UCX V3.3 has not
been supported at any time in the last eight years or so, you may find
it difficult to obtain a copy of ECO 13 for it!
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <48b422de$0$90269$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, "R.A.Omond" writes:
>VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <873f24e5-389a-423b-a766-2a5c750a6f22@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes:
>>> Hi:
>>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>>
>>> vax01> set host vax02
>>>
>>>
>>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>>
>> Is VAX02 defined in the namespace?

>
>Yes, it must be. She/he would get a "Remote node is unknown"
>error message if it weren't.
>
> $ set ho titan
> Remote node is not currently reachable
> $ set ho xxxxx
> Remote node is unknown


OK... should have read "properly" defined.

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.... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

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  #12  
Old 08-26-2008, 03:18 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

For each node, assuming DECNET (set host):

$MC NCP
NCP> SHOW EXEC CHAR
NCP> SHOW KNOWN NODES

If you can post the output of those commands from both nodes, it may
help diagnose the problem.
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  #13  
Old 08-26-2008, 07:56 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

On Aug 26, 10:13*am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi:
> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
> I made a reboot in this system but I´m getting this message:
>
> vax01> set host vax02
>
> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable



Try

vax01> set host /telnet vax02

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <564dfd96-0cc3-4212-9c7a-bfd0c4e023f5@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, FrankS writes:
>On Aug 26, 10:13=A0am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi:
>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>
>> vax01> set host vax02
>>
>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>
>
>Try
>
>vax01> set host /telnet vax02


Why not just $ telnet vax02?

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.... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

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notice, disclaimer and quotations.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Default Re: Putting my Vax in the network

In article <564dfd96-0cc3-4212-9c7a-bfd0c4e023f5@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, FrankS writes:
>On Aug 26, 10:13=A0am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi:
>> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
>> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message:
>>
>> vax01> set host vax02
>>
>> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable

>
>
>Try
>
>vax01> set host /telnet vax02


The version of UCX he is running is quite old. I would bet that his VMS
is old enough too not to have the /TELNET qualifier on the SET HOST com-
mand.

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no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

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Old 08-28-2008, 10:28 PM
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apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi:
> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network?
> I made a reboot in this system but I´m getting this message:
>
> vax01> set host vax02
>
> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable


O.k. - dumb question time:

Did you add the startup of the network to the machine's startup
procedure?

It's not there by default in most VMS versions prior to V7.3 or possibly
even before V8.2. Dunno - I'm losing touch with some of the finer points
as I'm being sucked deeper into the UN*X world (which REALLY sucks!).

D.J.D.
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