Subject says it all. I'm off...

In article ,
BRAD@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com says...
> Subject says it all. I'm off...
>




IVES# set term/unknown
IVES# mcr install
INSTALL>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaA
%CLI-W-TKNOVF, command element is too long - shorten

(Pasting into my newsreader caused the new lines in the middle of all
the "aaa"'s.)

The uppercase A and the error message resulted when I hit the 1st
uparrow.

The 2nd uparrow recalled the long line of "aaa...aaa" and the 3rd
uparrow echoed as another "A" and repeated the error message. No
stack dump. No bogus jump, as far as I can tell. Looks to be fixed.

(Patches available for I64 V8.2, V8.2-1, V8.3 and V8.3-1H1, and for
VMS V7.3-2, V8.2 and V8.3. No patch for VAX of any version, at least
not yet.)

--
John

Link time of the kit's SMGSHR.EXE: 7 weeks before release.



David L. Jones | Phone: (614) 271-6718
Ohio State University | Internet:
140 W. 19th St. | jonesd@ecr6.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210 | vman+@osu.edu

Disclaimer: I'm looking for marbles all day long.

On Aug 21, 5:37*am, JON...@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (David Jones) wrote:
> Link time of the kit's SMGSHR.EXE: 7 weeks before release.

Good

On Aug 21, 2:58*am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
wrote:
> Subject says it all. *I'm off...


Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
incorrect

E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5

INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE

Should be

INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE

(this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
the other nodes).

In article <281609df-9bd2-4306-b272-17cd337a617b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, IanMiller writes:
>On Aug 21, 2:58=A0am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
>wrote:
>> Subject says it all. =A0I'm off...
>
>
>Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
>kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
>incorrect
>
>E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5
>
>INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
>
>Should be
>
>INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
>
>(this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
>You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
>the other nodes).

Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.

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>
> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.
>
> --

Add more coffee - there are three letters difference. One has RTL and
the other SHR.

In article <00A7E6F1.B44DF3BA@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:

>>INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
>>INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
^^^

> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.

Yeah, I had to look twice, too.

Why do you think I make my smilies with glasses? 8-)

In article <00A7E6F1.B44DF3BA@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:

> In article
> <281609df-9bd2-4306-b272-17cd337a617b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> IanMiller writes:
> >On Aug 21, 2:58=A0am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
> >wrote:
> >> Subject says it all. =A0I'm off...
> >
> >
> >Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
> >kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
> >incorrect
> >
> >E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5
> >
> >INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
> >
> >Should be
> >
> >INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
> >
> >(this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
> >You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
> >the other nodes).
>
> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.

Old fart!

Revenge is sweet:-)

SHR instead of RTL.

--
Paul Sture

In article <181c85a5-cd67-4bb8-8e25-3dfd34eb95f5@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, IanMiller writes:
>>
>> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.
>>
>> --
>
>Add more coffee - there are three letters difference. One has RTL and
>the other SHR.

More coffee and my specs did the trick.


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In article , "P. Sture" writes:
>In article <00A7E6F1.B44DF3BA@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <281609df-9bd2-4306-b272-17cd337a617b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> IanMiller writes:
>> >On Aug 21, 2:58=A0am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
>> >wrote:
>> >> Subject says it all. =A0I'm off...
>> >
>> >
>> >Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
>> >kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
>> >incorrect
>> >
>> >E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5
>> >
>> >INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
>> >
>> >Should be
>> >
>> >INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
>> >
>> >(this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
>> >You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
>> >the other nodes).
>>
>> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.
>
>Old fart!

:P

I see the eye doctor readily to check for diabetic retinopathy. About 2
years ago I was written a prescription for specs; I only recently filled
it. I'm still getting used to wearing them. I wake every morning, get a
cup of coffee and venture down to the VAXcave forgetting to grab them off
of the dresser where I perch them the night before. Maybe I'll start to
take them off at my desk in the eve and leave them there.



>Revenge is sweet:-)
>
>SHR instead of RTL.



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VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article , "P. Sture" writes:
>> In article <00A7E6F1.B44DF3BA@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <281609df-9bd2-4306-b272-17cd337a617b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>> IanMiller writes:
>>>> On Aug 21, 2:58=A0am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Subject says it all. =A0I'm off...
>>>>
>>>> Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
>>>> kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
>>>> incorrect
>>>>
>>>> E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5
>>>>
>>>> INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
>>>>
>>>> Should be
>>>>
>>>> INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
>>>>
>>>> (this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
>>>> You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
>>>> the other nodes).
>>> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.
>> Old fart!
>
> :P
>
> I see the eye doctor readily to check for diabetic retinopathy. About 2
> years ago I was written a prescription for specs; I only recently filled
> it. I'm still getting used to wearing them. I wake every morning, get a
> cup of coffee and venture down to the VAXcave forgetting to grab them off
> of the dresser where I perch them the night before. Maybe I'll start to
> take them off at my desk in the eve and leave them there.
>

I have a prescription for specs as well, but I don't need them unless
I'm doing close work, or my morning coffee quota has not been met. I
have two pair of drugstore 1.5x fold up specs. One hangs next to my
monitor, and one I carry in my "man purse". ;^) They're handy because
they are half height, so I can easily peer over them to see the big stuff.

>
>
>> Revenge is sweet:-)
>>
>> SHR instead of RTL.
>
>
>

VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <281609df-9bd2-4306-b272-17cd337a617b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, IanMiller writes:
>> On Aug 21, 2:58=A0am, B...@rabbit.turquoisewitch.com (Brad Hamilton)
>> wrote:
>>> Subject says it all. =A0I'm off...
>>
>> Note there is a small issue with the recently released SMGRTL patch
>> kits. The special installation instructions in the release notes are
>> incorrect
>>
>> E.g in VMS732_SMGRTL-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES section 7.5
>>
>> INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGRTL.EXE
>> ^^^
>> Should be
>>
>> INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:SMGSHR.EXE
>> ^^^
>> (this applies if you have multiple nodes booting from one system disk.
>> You install the kit on one node and do the above INSTALL command on
>> the other nodes).
>
> Excuse me failing eyes but these look to be the same to me.
>

Time to see your optometrist! Look for "^^^" above.

FWIW, reading the patch description text (Yes, with my specs on), there
is nothing to indicate the severity of or need for applying this patch!
I'd wager that there are sites that will NEVER install this patch unless
they see some buffer overflow in SMG. Unless this patch is listed as a
SECURITY patch, people not following what has been going on here for the
better part of a week will not install it.

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In article <00A7E75B.E1A3D903@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>FWIW, reading the patch description text (Yes, with my specs on), there
>is nothing to indicate the severity of or need for applying this patch!
>I'd wager that there are sites that will NEVER install this patch unless
>they see some buffer overflow in SMG. Unless this patch is listed as a
>SECURITY patch, people not following what has been going on here for the
>better part of a week will not install it.
>

C'mon - you *know* that everyone reads everything on good ol' complain.on.vms.!
[...]

On Aug 21, 9:18*pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> FWIW, reading the patch description text (Yes, with my specs on), there
> is nothing to indicate the severity of or need for applying this patch!


2 KIT DESCRIPTION:

2.1 Installation Rating:

INSTALL_1 : To be installed by all customers.

This installation rating, based upon current CLD information, is
provided to serve as a guide to which customers should apply this
remedial kit. (Reference attached Disclaimer of Warranty and
Limitation of Liability Statement)

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM, wrote:
> FWIW, reading the patch description text (Yes, with my specs on), there
> is nothing to indicate the severity of or need for applying this patch!
> I'd wager that there are sites that will NEVER install this patch unless
> they see some buffer overflow in SMG. Unless this patch is listed as a
> SECURITY patch, people not following what has been going on here for the
> better part of a week will not install it.
>
> --
> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
>
> ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
> no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)
>
> Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
> of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
> notice, disclaimer and quotations.
>

At the risk of sounding sarcastic.

Dude, it's a "1".

That ought to tell you something.

However I will complain that the description of the "problem" in the
release notes is severely innocuous.

If I ran the zoo, I'd have made this a MUP.

WWWebb

In article <00A7E6FD.4C4C2D30@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:

> I see the eye doctor readily to check for diabetic retinopathy. About 2
> years ago I was written a prescription for specs; I only recently filled
> it. I'm still getting used to wearing them. I wake every morning, get a
> cup of coffee and venture down to the VAXcave forgetting to grab them off
> of the dresser where I perch them the night before. Maybe I'll start to
> take them off at my desk in the eve and leave them there.

I've already had specs for a couple of decades for long distance work,
in essence for driving, reading presentations when at the back of a
room, and so on. I recall that it did take a while to get into the habit
of remembering to take them with me.

I'd definitely recommend getting a spare pair, not only as a counter for
forgetfulness, but in case of a system failure (in my case the
unexpected chewing of my first pair by a puppy!).

--
Paul Sture

In article <00A7E75B.E1A3D903@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
> FWIW, reading the patch description text (Yes, with my specs on), there
> is nothing to indicate the severity of or need for applying this patch!
> I'd wager that there are sites that will NEVER install this patch unless
> they see some buffer overflow in SMG. Unless this patch is listed as a
> SECURITY patch, people not following what has been going on here for the
> better part of a week will not install it.

Yes. the rating is INSTAL_1, but it should be a MUP!

On Aug 22, 5:00*am, "P. Sture" wrote:
> I'd definitely recommend getting a spare pair, not only as a counter for
> forgetfulness, but in case of a system failure (in my case the
> unexpected chewing of my first pair by a puppy!).

WalMart, K-Mart, and their ilk are your friend in this particular
case. I've got 6 pairs of very cheap ($6 - $12) reading glasses
scattered around the house and car. I even have one pair expressly to
be left in the briefcase to avoid travelling mishaps. :-)

Ah, the joys of advancing age.