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  1. Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and now
    on the console I get this:

    %DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you type
    YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you
    type
    NO, AUTOGEN will not run or cause a reboot, but DECwindows will not start.
    Do you want the system to run AUTOGEN for you [YES]?

    If I say yes it goes through a reboot but I get the same prompt again (i.e.
    no change to the parameter). So I ran sysgen and changed that parameter
    myself to 280. When it came up again it said the value was 280, but needed
    to be 600! So I changed it to 600 manually and when it rebooted it said the
    value was 244 and needed to be 280!!!

    How to I get out of this loop?

    Thanks

    Rob



  2. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    In article <%0dIi.2434$yN2.1168@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, "Robert Jarratt" writes:
    >
    >
    >I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and now
    >on the console I get this:
    >
    >%DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    >Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you type
    >YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you
    >type
    >NO, AUTOGEN will not run or cause a reboot, but DECwindows will not start.
    >Do you want the system to run AUTOGEN for you [YES]?
    >
    >If I say yes it goes through a reboot but I get the same prompt again (i.e.
    >no change to the parameter). So I ran sysgen and changed that parameter
    >myself to 280. When it came up again it said the value was 280, but needed
    >to be 600! So I changed it to 600 manually and when it rebooted it said the
    >value was 244 and needed to be 280!!!


    Did you write the parameters to ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR???

    At the SYSGEN prompt, you should have issued: SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT



    >How to I get out of this loop?


    Boot up conversationally:

    >>> BOOT -FL 0,1


    When you get to the SYSBOOT> prompt enter:

    SYSBOOT> SET GBLSECTIONS 600
    SYSBOOT> CONTINUE

    If this is the only SYSGEN parameter troubling your bootstrap, you should
    get the system to boot up.

    Once up, edit MODPARAMS.DAT to adjust GBLSECTIONS, run AUTOGEN and try an-
    other reboot.

    --
    VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM

    "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"

    http://tmesis.com/drat.html

  3. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    In article <%0dIi.2434$yN2.1168@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, "Robert Jarratt" writes:
    >I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and now
    >on the console I get this:
    >
    >%DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    >Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you type
    >YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you


    Old nasty bug of DECwindows. It requires more GBLSECTIONS than it checks for.
    Add MIN_GBLSECTIONS=1024 to your SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT and let it AUTOGEN.

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  4. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    In article <%0dIi.2434$yN2.1168@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, "Robert Jarratt" writes:
    > I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and now
    > on the console I get this:
    >
    > %DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    > Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you type
    > YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you
    > type
    > NO, AUTOGEN will not run or cause a reboot, but DECwindows will not start.
    > Do you want the system to run AUTOGEN for you [YES]?
    >
    > If I say yes it goes through a reboot but I get the same prompt again (i.e.
    > no change to the parameter). So I ran sysgen and changed that parameter
    > myself to 280. When it came up again it said the value was 280, but needed
    > to be 600! So I changed it to 600 manually and when it rebooted it said the
    > value was 244 and needed to be 280!!!
    >
    > How to I get out of this loop?


    You need to add about 280 to the existing value. More is fairly
    painless on anything later than the VAX-11 series.


  5. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle


    "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER" wrote in message
    news:46f190bb$1@news.langstoeger.at...
    > In article <%0dIi.2434$yN2.1168@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, "Robert Jarratt"
    > writes:
    >>I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and
    >>now
    >>on the console I get this:
    >>
    >>%DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    >>Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you
    >>type
    >>YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you

    >
    > Old nasty bug of DECwindows. It requires more GBLSECTIONS than it checks
    > for.
    > Add MIN_GBLSECTIONS=1024 to your SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT and let it
    > AUTOGEN.
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist


    I'll try 1024, and to the other posters, yes I did do WRITE CURRENT, or at
    least I know that you have to do that and I am sure I did, but I will try
    again just to make sure.

    Thanks

    Rob



  6. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    On Sep 19, 12:30 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
    > I have installed VMS on a DEC 2000 Model 300. I installed DECwindows and now
    > on the console I get this:
    >
    > %DECW-W-BADVALUE, Free GBLSECTIONS is 244, should be at least 280
    > Some SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start. If you type
    > YES, AUTOGEN will change these parameters and reboot your system. If you
    > type
    > NO, AUTOGEN will not run or cause a reboot, but DECwindows will not start.
    > Do you want the system to run AUTOGEN for you [YES]?
    >
    > If I say yes it goes through a reboot but I get the same prompt again (i.e.
    > no change to the parameter). So I ran sysgen and changed that parameter
    > myself to 280. When it came up again it said the value was 280, but needed
    > to be 600! So I changed it to 600 manually and when it rebooted it said the
    > value was 244 and needed to be 280!!!
    >
    > How to I get out of this loop?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Rob



    A long time ago I had a problem similar to that on a VAX system
    installing Pathworks. I can;t find my resolution sheet (lost in one
    of the intervening moves, I think) but the fix was to boot minimal and
    delete the following file:

    SYS$SYSTEM:LISTPREPOP.DAT

    I have no idea if this could be an issue on an Alpha system, or if the
    fix is safe, though you could boot the operating system CD and save a
    copy before deleting if you wanted to.

    Rich


  7. Re: Alpha VMS In Infinite Boot Cycle

    The guilty party is SYS$MANAGERECW$GETPARAMS.COM

    It checks a variety of system parameters:

    elements:
    0 = param ( used with f$getsyi for instance FREE_GBLSECTIONS )
    1 = value
    2 = devs (unused here)
    3 = sysgen_param ( actual sysgen parameter ( ex: GBLSECTIONS )
    4 = add_value
    5 = iffree value

    $ parameter = "WINDOW_SYSTEM/1////////"
    $ parameter = "GBLSECTIONS/600////////"
    $ parameter = "FREE_GBLSECTS/260//GBLSECTIONS/20/30"
    $ parameter = "GBLPAGES/150000////////"
    $ parameter = "FREE_GBLPAGES/84000//GBLPAGES/8000/12000"
    $ parameter = "GBLPAGFIL/4096////////"
    $ parameter = "NPAGEDYN/1348576////////"
    $ parameter = "PAGEDYN/704288////////"
    $ parameter = "SWPOUTPGCNT/512////////"
    $ parameter = "MAXBUF/8192////////"
    $ parameter = "CHANNELCNT/255////////"
    $ parameter = "PROCSECTCNT/128////////"
    $ parameter = "WSMAX/12000////////"
    $ parameter = "CLISYMTBL/512////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MPGFLQUOTA/32768////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MASTLM/100////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MBIOLM/100////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MDIOLM/100////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MFILLM/100////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MBYTLM/100000////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MPRCLM/10////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MENQLM/300////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MWSDEFAULT/1024////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MWSQUOTA/2048////////"
    $ parameter = "PQL_MWSEXTENT/8192////////"
    $ parameter = "GH_RES_CODE/1584////////"
    $ parameter = "IMGREG_PAGES/10000////////"


    So don't only fix the gblsections, look at the other parameters because
    any other one which the procedure will dislike will also result in the
    same error message.

    Also of note: before upgrading DECWINDOWS software, you must reboot with
    WINDOW_SYSTEM = 0 parameter otherwise an already loaded DECWINDOWS
    software will cause the above procedure to complain since the parameters
    it is looking at are already used up by itself :-)

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