Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server - VMS

This is a discussion on Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server - VMS ; From: Marty Kuhrt > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427887 > I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I've noticed that Firefox > doesn't see files with lowercase file name parts, either. It'll see > TEST.TXT but not TEST.txt or test.txt. ...

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  1. Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server

    From: Marty Kuhrt

    > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427887


    > I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I've noticed that Firefox
    > doesn't see files with lowercase file name parts, either. It'll see
    > TEST.TXT but not TEST.txt or test.txt.


    That's a different problem. My complaint was triggered by long names
    on an ODS2 disk. I was assuming that it'd have troubles with the carets
    on ODS5, but apparently it's significantly worse than that.

    I was hoping to generate some interest from someone who already has a
    Mozilla/Firefox build environment set up, as that looked like a
    career-sized project all by itself, which I was hoping that I could
    avoid. (Well, of course I can avoid it, but I'd like to get the stuff
    working properly with VMS, too. Everything's complicated.)

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  2. Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server

    On Apr 17, 3:20 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote:

    > That's a different problem. My complaint was triggered by long names
    > on an ODS2 disk. I was assuming that it'd have troubles with the carets
    > on ODS5, but apparently it's significantly worse than that.


    The real 'fix' is for hp to add a 'unix compatibility mode' to it's
    ftp server. Enabled by a logical name perhaps. No GUI FTP client can
    read the listings so it's going to have problems manipulating the
    files. You can't expect every GUI FTP client to have special code to
    deal with ODS5, but you could expect HP to provide a 'unix' compatible
    ftp server so all those GUI FTP clients out there work again.

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    -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-
    Madison
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  3. Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server

    Carl Karcher wrote:
    > On Apr 17, 3:20 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote:
    >> That's a different problem. My complaint was triggered by long names
    >> on an ODS2 disk. I was assuming that it'd have troubles with the carets
    >> on ODS5, but apparently it's significantly worse than that.

    >
    > The real 'fix' is for hp to add a 'unix compatibility mode' to it's
    > ftp server. Enabled by a logical name perhaps. No GUI FTP client can
    > read the listings so it's going to have problems manipulating the
    > files. You can't expect every GUI FTP client to have special code to
    > deal with ODS5, but you could expect HP to provide a 'unix' compatible
    > ftp server so all those GUI FTP clients out there work again.


    HGFTP can do that.

    Arne

  4. Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server

    In article <89ec2aa2-ed5f-4cbd-88e6-4e71283e934f@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Carl Karcher writes:
    >
    > The real 'fix' is for hp to add a 'unix compatibility mode' to it's
    > ftp server. Enabled by a logical name perhaps. No GUI FTP client can
    > read the listings so it's going to have problems manipulating the
    > files. You can't expect every GUI FTP client to have special code to
    > deal with ODS5, but you could expect HP to provide a 'unix' compatible
    > ftp server so all those GUI FTP clients out there work again.


    Nope. I expect all those clients out there to start following the
    RFC, or maybe an update to the RFC (not likely), instead of all the
    vendors having to make up for those who don't follow the RFC.

    There's nothing going on with file names on an ODS-5 disk which isn't
    handled by the RFC.

  5. Re: Mozilla (et al.) v. TCPIP FTP server

    Steven M. Schweda wrote:
    > From: Marty Kuhrt
    >
    >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427887

    >
    >> I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I've noticed that Firefox
    >> doesn't see files with lowercase file name parts, either. It'll see
    >> TEST.TXT but not TEST.txt or test.txt.

    >
    > That's a different problem. My complaint was triggered by long names
    > on an ODS2 disk. I was assuming that it'd have troubles with the carets
    > on ODS5, but apparently it's significantly worse than that.
    >
    > I was hoping to generate some interest from someone who already has a
    > Mozilla/Firefox build environment set up, as that looked like a
    > career-sized project all by itself, which I was hoping that I could
    > avoid. (Well, of course I can avoid it, but I'd like to get the stuff
    > working properly with VMS, too. Everything's complicated.)


    The result was the same with Multinet 5.2, as well. If you want a real
    laff on the Mac, try using Safari to do ftp:// stuff. Firefox may be a
    bit odd, but Safari won't do it at all (at least in my case).

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