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  1. UIC full display Question

    What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?

    Thank you in advance,
    Chuck

    Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5] ([NAPIS,PDZA005])

    Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420] ([200,11420])

  2. Re: UIC full display Question

    Chuck Aaron wrote:
    > What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    > uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    > and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Chuck
    >
    > Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5]
    > ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >
    > Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420]
    > ([200,11420])


    "Account" identifies little or nothing! If somebody was billed for the
    usage, it would be "Account". You have two different users (User IDs)
    being charged to the same account.


  3. Re: UIC full display Question

    Richard,

    We use accounts that way here and the accounts are fine. I was just
    wondering
    why pdza010's uic was not displayed like pdza005? pdza010's uic display is
    showing up with the 200,11420 numbers twice when it should be showing up
    with
    the ([NAPIS,PDZA010]) designation.

    Chuck

    Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
    > Chuck Aaron wrote:
    >> What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    >> uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    >> and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >>
    >> Thank you in advance,
    >> Chuck
    >>
    >> Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    >> Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5]
    >> ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >>
    >> Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    >> Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420]
    >> ([200,11420])

    >
    > "Account" identifies little or nothing! If somebody was billed for
    > the usage, it would be "Account". You have two different users (User
    > IDs) being charged to the same account.
    >


  4. Re: UIC full display Question

    There is not an identifier with value [200,11420]

    If you did this then you will then get the expected results in the
    listing

    ADD/ID/VALUE=UIC=[200,11420] PDZA010

  5. RE: UIC full display Question

    The PDZA010 identifier was not created or was created with a value
    different than the account by that name.

    UAF> show/identifier PDZA005

    Should show something like:

    Name Value Attributes
    PDZA005 [200,5]

    But

    UAF> show/identifier PDZA010

    Will either return an error or the value does not match [200,11420].


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Aaron [mailto:caaron@ceris.purdue.edu]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:25 AM
    To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
    Subject: UIC full display Question

    What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?

    Thank you in advance,
    Chuck

    Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5]
    ([NAPIS,PDZA005])

    Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420]
    ([200,11420])

  6. Re: UIC full display Question

    On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Chuck Aaron wrote:
    > What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    > uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    > and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Chuck
    >
    > Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5] ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >
    > Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420] ([200,11420])
    >


    The alphabetical UIC is equated to the numerical UIC via identifiers.

    Do a

    $ mc authorize show/id PDZA010

    If that doesn't show something like:

    Name Value Attributes
    PDZA010 [000200,011420]

    Then something removed that identifier. To get it back do:

    $ mc authorize add/id/user=PDZA010

    Ken

  7. Re: UIC full display Question

    Chuck Aaron wrote:
    > Richard,
    >
    > We use accounts that way here and the accounts are fine. I was just
    > wondering
    > why pdza010's uic was not displayed like pdza005? pdza010's uic display is
    > showing up with the 200,11420 numbers twice when it should be showing up
    > with
    > the ([NAPIS,PDZA010]) designation.
    >
    > Chuck
    >
    > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
    >> Chuck Aaron wrote:
    >>> What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    >>> uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    >>> and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >>>
    >>> Thank you in advance,
    >>> Chuck
    >>>
    >>> Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    >>> Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5]
    >>> ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >>>
    >>> Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    >>> Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420]
    >>> ([200,11420])

    >>
    >> "Account" identifies little or nothing! If somebody was billed for
    >> the usage, it would be "Account". You have two different users (User
    >> IDs) being charged to the same account.
    >>


    OK, it has been a while since I had to cope with this sort of thing but
    ISTR a /IDENTIFIER qualifier in AUTHORIZE.

    And as far as I can see, you have TWO user ids here: PDZA005 and
    PDZA010. Both are charged to one "Account". "Account" is something
    that AFAIK, AUTHORIZE does not use for anything except reporting. You
    can get a report of usage by "account" which will lump together usage by
    PZDA005 and PDZA010.

    HTH!

  8. Re: UIC full display Question

    In article , Chuck Aaron writes:
    > What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    > uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    > and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Chuck
    >
    > Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5] ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >
    > Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420] ([200,11420])



    The mapping from UIC number to/from string is maintained as entries
    in the RIGHTSLIST file and modified via authorize.exe's add/identifer,
    modify/identifer, ...

    It looks like the entry for PDZA010 is missing from RIGHTSLIST.

    If there's no entry for the UIC in the RIGHTSLIST then the value is
    always shown as two octal numbers with a comma between them. If there
    is an entry for the UIC but not the group then the value is shown as
    a single string (no comma). If there is an entry for both the UIC and
    the group then the entry is shown as two strings with a comma between
    them.


  9. Re: UIC full display Question

    I think what you want is:

    $ mcr authorize add /identifier/value=[200,11420] PDZA010

    I hope this message produces text only and not html or mime.
    It's been several years since I've posted to this forum.
    I'm using a mail client called SeaMonkey.



    Chuck Aaron wrote:
    > What would cause one id under the same account to show as different
    > uic description value? I am wondering why the 200,11420 is listing twice
    > and not showing napis,pdza010 like the one above. Any ideas?
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Chuck
    >
    > Username: PDZA005 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,5] ([NAPIS,PDZA005])
    >
    > Username: PDZA010 Owner: NAPIS
    > Account: NASPEC UIC: [200,11420] ([200,11420])


  10. Re: UIC full display Question

    In article , Muddflapp Mohican writes:
    >I think what you want is:
    >
    >$ mcr authorize add /identifier/value=[200,11420] PDZA010


    $ mcr authorize add /identifier/value=uic=[200,11420] PDZA010

    >I hope this message produces text only and not html or mime.
    >It's been several years since I've posted to this forum.
    >I'm using a mail client called SeaMonkey.


    All is well. Thanks for your efforts

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

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