This is a discussion on Re: New Member to newsgroup: Hi and All about VMS on MV 3300 - VMS ; From: "Alistair J. Ross" > >"VAXStation 3100" is less complete than it could be. If it doesn't > >say "Mxx" on the front, it's probably a 30 or 40 (the oldest). > > Nope, it doesn't say anything. Big grey ...
From: "Alistair J. Ross"
> >"VAXStation 3100" is less complete than it could be. If it doesn't
> >say "Mxx" on the front, it's probably a 30 or 40 (the oldest).
> Nope, it doesn't say anything. Big grey box with Digital VaxStation 3100.
> That's the lot.
Ok. If it's about 10cm (4 inches) high, it's probably a Model 30.
If it looks as if it can hold full-height drives, it's probably a Model
40. There's normally an actual model number on the back.
> Not that interested with this box anyway so no biggie,
> it's just a basic workstation (or so I believe).
It probably has better SCSI capability than the Q-bus system. This
capability may become valuable as you get further along.
> > Eventually, you may wish to get a Hobbyist CD-ROM kit and licenses,
> >and do a fresh installation, instead of using whatever was left by the
> >previous owner. (See the FAQ.)
> Alas, that's not going to be a realistic possibility. This beast is of
> the vintage just prior to CD-ROM.
See SCSI note, above. Actually, there was a Q-bus card (KRQ50?) which
connected to a non-SCSI CD-ROM drive, but they're rare, and the
associated CD-ROM drive (RRD50?) was no great prize, either.
> It contains one TK-70 tape drive and
> two noisy sounding hard drives,
See SCSI note, above. Cheap, large, working SCSI disk drives are
also commonly available.
> it also has 2 add on boards with what
> look like Centronics-style ports on them. I'm not sure what these are for
Look for "M" numbers on the card handles. Some cards also have info
stamped into their metal frames. Given an "M" number, Google can
usually find useful info. It was a popular connector, used for SCSI and
serial port cards, among other things.
> I would also imagine that installation of an operating system the
> size of VMS (even an old one) would still be impossible via Serial Link
> at 19200bps.
You may be able to find someone local (more than I, anyway) who could
supply TK50 (or TK70) tapes for a classical (that is, slow) VMS
installation from tape. Or you can make a cluster with the
SCSI-equipped VAXstation. (OS installation over a serial line may not
be practical, but you can make a DECnet link over one. Ethernet'd be
> Once I've managed to break into this thing, the next thing I will want to
> do is see if I can get it to play on my Ethernet based network. I'm
> guessing at the moment it'll only speak DecNET. I don't even know whether
> VMS was designed to speak anything else than DecNET, or how compatible
> other OS's are with DECNet (I believe there is some OSS implementation
> now available for Linux on Freshmeat), however I guess I'll find as much
> information in the FAQ.
That's only software. TCP/IP kits (free-to-hobbyist, even) are
available from multiple sources.
Do a hardware inventory, and find out with what you're working.
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