Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2 - VMS

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  1. Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    Hi,

    Looking thru a save-set today, I noticed the /STOR qualifier on the
    internal "Command: " line.

    Anyone know what this does?

    $ BACKUP/LIST DRIVE_1BBKUP01.BAK/LABEL=(NJ1689)/MEDI=COMP/REWIND
    Listing of save set(s)

    Save set: DBBKUP01.BAK
    Written by: SLS
    UIC: [000001,000020]
    Date: 2-SEP-2007 19:45:34.01
    Command: BACK/STOR=V2SLS/RELEASE_TAPE/LIST=_MBA25078:/FULL

    Thanks,
    Ron
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  2. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    In article <6m5Yi.4130$Gy4.1280@newsfe24.lga>, Ron Johnson writes:
    >Looking thru a save-set today, I noticed the /STOR qualifier on the
    >internal "Command: " line.
    >
    >Anyone know what this does?


    No. But I know it is old (surely on V7 and maybe before), is really named
    /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT and is used by SLS (and probably it successor)...

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  3. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    On 11/06/07 16:07, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote:
    > In article <6m5Yi.4130$Gy4.1280@newsfe24.lga>, Ron Johnson writes:
    >> Looking thru a save-set today, I noticed the /STOR qualifier on the
    >> internal "Command: " line.
    >>
    >> Anyone know what this does?

    >
    > No. But I know it is old (surely on V7 and maybe before), is really named
    > /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT and is used by SLS (and probably it successor)...


    Hmmm. According to Wizard 3428, it seems to go back to 5.5-2H4 or
    before.

    But still, why isn't it documented? (Yes, I looked at www.parsec.com.)

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    Ron Johnson, Jr.
    Jefferson LA USA

    Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
    Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

  4. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    In article ,
    Ron Johnson wrote:

    > On 11/06/07 16:07, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote:
    > > In article <6m5Yi.4130$Gy4.1280@newsfe24.lga>, Ron Johnson
    > > writes:
    > >> Looking thru a save-set today, I noticed the /STOR qualifier on the
    > >> internal "Command: " line.
    > >>
    > >> Anyone know what this does?

    > >
    > > No. But I know it is old (surely on V7 and maybe before), is really named
    > > /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT and is used by SLS (and probably it successor)...

    >
    > Hmmm. According to Wizard 3428, it seems to go back to 5.5-2H4 or
    > before.
    >
    > But still, why isn't it documented? (Yes, I looked at www.parsec.com.)


    Offhand, I'd guess that it is a private interface, and not supported for
    general use.

    VMS is full of such undocumented features.

  5. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    In article <6m5Yi.4130$Gy4.1280@newsfe24.lga>, Ron Johnson writes:
    >
    > Command: BACK/STOR=V2SLS/RELEASE_TAPE/LIST=_MBA25078:/FULL
    >


    From my 6.2 system, I get a pretty good hint:

    $ backup/store=v2sls nl: nl:
    %BACKUP-F-NOSLS, qualifier /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT is invalid when SLS is not instal
    led


  6. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    On 11/07/07 08:06, Bob Koehler wrote:
    > In article , Ron Johnson writes:
    >> Command: BACK/STOR=V2SLS/RELEASE_TAPE/LIST=_MBA25078:/FULL
    >>

    >
    > From my 6.2 system, I get a pretty good hint:
    >
    > $ backup/store=v2sls nl: nl:
    > %BACKUP-F-NOSLS, qualifier /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT is invalid when SLS is not instal
    > led


    That's a start!

    But where can I look to determine what it actually does, and whether
    I can take advantage of it beyond STORA START SYSTEM_BACKUP?

    --
    Ron Johnson, Jr.
    Jefferson LA USA

    Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
    Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

  7. Re: Unknown BACKUP qualifier in VMS 8.2

    Ron Johnson wrote:
    >
    > On 11/07/07 08:06, Bob Koehler wrote:
    > > In article , Ron Johnson writes:
    > >> Command: BACK/STOR=V2SLS/RELEASE_TAPE/LIST=_MBA25078:/FULL
    > >>

    > >
    > > From my 6.2 system, I get a pretty good hint:
    > >
    > > $ backup/store=v2sls nl: nl:
    > > %BACKUP-F-NOSLS, qualifier /STORAGE_MANAGEMENT is invalid when SLS is not instal
    > > led

    >
    > That's a start!
    >
    > But where can I look to determine what it actually does, and whether
    > I can take advantage of it beyond STORA START SYSTEM_BACKUP?


    About the only place to look is in SLS$SYSTEM:SYSBAK.COM.

    It's rather a major piece of work, and not without its foibles, but it does
    yield some clues when you study it and the SLS$SYSBAK_LOGS: files.

    Whether you can exploit any of that outside of either SLS or ABS is rather a
    good question, I should think.

    I know of other folks who've written their own wrappers around VMS BACKUP, MTI's
    TapeControl not being the least of them, and entirely DCL-based suites have been
    known to be done (not sure how recommendable that might be, though).

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