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  1. Rare job posting

    I just saw a job posting in Denmark.

    Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.

    Long time since I last saw one of those.

    Arne

  2. Re: Rare job posting

    Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    > I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >
    > Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >
    > Long time since I last saw one of those.
    >
    > Arne


    In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    each months since this summer. Not in the public
    job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.

    Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.

    Jan-Erik.

  3. Re: Rare job posting

    On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:

    > I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >
    > Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >
    > Long time since I last saw one of those.
    >
    > Arne


    What was the name of the company?

    --
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    www.kednos.com

  4. More scaremongering bollocks

    Hi Tom,

    My guess is that it's a great opportunity for an IMM team-building exercise
    where they get to build Big-Ben out of Lego. (Given the talent involved
    there's bound to be a few pieces left over, and as soon as it looks like a
    deliverable is on the horizon the venue will probably switched to Pirates of
    the Caribbean and a big "Yo Ho, Yo Ho, and IMM life for me!")

    Cheers Richard Maher

    PS. Don't let Arne (whose knowledge of many things including all OO
    development and Java in particular I respect immensely) fool ya, they were
    looking for whole teams of those skills in London this summer (and at TOP
    DOLLAR) How's JavaFX going? (Says he who's smugly worked out where the GUI
    future lies :-)

    "Tom Linden" wrote in message
    newsp.t0d83bedhv4qyg@murphus.linden...
    > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >
    > > I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    > >
    > > Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    > >
    > > Long time since I last saw one of those.
    > >
    > > Arne

    >
    > What was the name of the company?
    >
    > --
    > PL/I for OpenVMS
    > www.kednos.com




  5. Re: Rare job posting

    Hi Arne,

    If you go to www.jobserve.co.uk and enter VMS search for all regions, you'll
    see a few requirements for similar skillsets. Admittedly not a flood but
    then it hasn't been for over 15 years.

    Cheers Richard Maher

    "Arne Vajh°j" wrote in message
    news:4716cce6$0$90265$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
    > I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >
    > Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >
    > Long time since I last saw one of those.
    >
    > Arne




  6. Re: Rare job posting

    Jan-Erik S÷derholm wrote:
    > Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >>
    >> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >>
    >> Long time since I last saw one of those.

    >
    > In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    > each months since this summer. Not in the public
    > job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.
    >
    > Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.


    I think this was similar.

    But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    DECForms wanted in Denmark.

    Arne

  7. Re: Rare job posting

    Tom Linden wrote:
    > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >>
    >> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >>
    >> Long time since I last saw one of those.

    >
    > What was the name of the company?


    It was a body shop. I can give you the name of that, but
    the posting did not say who the real company was.

    Arne

  8. Re: Rare job posting

    Richard Maher wrote:
    > If you go to www.jobserve.co.uk and enter VMS search for all regions, you'll
    > see a few requirements for similar skillsets. Admittedly not a flood but
    > then it hasn't been for over 15 years.


    Denmark is a much smaller country than UK and the financial
    sector in Denmark has always been very blue.

    Arne

  9. Re: More scaremongering bollocks

    Richard Maher wrote:
    > PS. Don't let Arne ................................. fool ya, they were
    > looking for whole teams of those skills in London this summer (and at TOP
    > DOLLAR)


    TOP POUND - I assume ...

    :-)

    > How's JavaFX going? (Says he who's smugly worked out where the GUI
    > future lies :-)


    I know that it is available for download.

    I don't think it is that popular.

    My expectation is that it will be 3 out of 3 with Silverlight
    as #2 and all the Flash stuff at a solid lead.

    Arne

  10. Re: Rare job posting

    On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:08:15 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:

    > Denmark is a much smaller country than UK and the financial
    > sector in Denmark has always been very blue.


    That is because Maersk Mckinney Moeller was a roommate of Tom Watson Jr.
    at Yale.


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    PL/I for OpenVMS
    www.kednos.com

  11. Re: Rare job posting

    Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    > Jan-Erik S÷derholm wrote:
    >> Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >>> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >>>
    >>> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >>>
    >>> Long time since I last saw one of those.

    >>
    >> In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    >> each months since this summer. Not in the public
    >> job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.
    >>
    >> Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.

    >
    > I think this was similar.
    >
    > But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    > DECForms wanted in Denmark.
    >
    > Arne


    Arne,

    Where did you see that*

    Dweeb



  12. Re: Rare job posting

    Tom Linden wrote:
    > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:08:15 -0700, Arne Vajh°j
    > wrote:
    >> Denmark is a much smaller country than UK and the financial
    >> sector in Denmark has always been very blue.

    >
    > That is because Maersk Mckinney Moeller was a roommate of Tom Watson
    > Jr. at Yale.


    Well that might have explainded why Maersk Data was blue, or Big Blue might
    simply have been the only one up to the tasks at hand.

    Maersk Oil had VMS in the old days though for some stuff.

    Gone now I suspect

    Dweeb



  13. Re: Rare job posting

    In article <47186439$0$7604$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>,
    "Dr. Dweeb" writes:
    > Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> Jan-Erik S÷derholm wrote:
    >>> Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >>>> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >>>>
    >>>> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >>>>
    >>>> Long time since I last saw one of those.
    >>>
    >>> In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    >>> each months since this summer. Not in the public
    >>> job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.
    >>>
    >>> Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.

    >>
    >> I think this was similar.
    >>
    >> But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    >> DECForms wanted in Denmark.
    >>

    >
    > Where did you see that*
    >


    I guess the big question really is are these long term support
    jobs or conversions? Why do I ask? About a year ago a major
    beltway bandit was advertising for Fortran Programmers (damn,
    why didn't I apply!!) Apparently the search went badly. Juat
    about a month ago they were looking for Java Programmers with
    a working knowledge of Fortran to do a conversion. The location
    was the same. Just because someone wants people with legacy
    experience doesn't mean long term survival for the legacy system.

    bill

    --
    Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
    bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
    University of Scranton |
    Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include

  14. RE: Rare job posting

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu] On
    > Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
    > Sent: October 19, 2007 8:24 AM
    > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
    > Subject: Re: Rare job posting
    >
    > In article <47186439$0$7604$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>,
    > "Dr. Dweeb" writes:
    > > Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    > >> Jan-Erik S÷derholm wrote:
    > >>> Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    > >>>> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Long time since I last saw one of those.
    > >>>
    > >>> In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    > >>> each months since this summer. Not in the public
    > >>> job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.
    > >>>
    > >>> Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.
    > >>
    > >> I think this was similar.
    > >>
    > >> But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    > >> DECForms wanted in Denmark.
    > >>

    > >
    > > Where did you see that*
    > >

    >
    > I guess the big question really is are these long term support
    > jobs or conversions? Why do I ask? About a year ago a major
    > beltway bandit was advertising for Fortran Programmers (damn,
    > why didn't I apply!!) Apparently the search went badly. Juat
    > about a month ago they were looking for Java Programmers with
    > a working knowledge of Fortran to do a conversion. The location
    > was the same. Just because someone wants people with legacy
    > experience doesn't mean long term survival for the legacy system.
    >
    > bill
    >
    > --
    > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three
    > wolves
    > bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
    > University of Scranton |
    > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include


    Same goes both ways .. Large Cust I was at was looking for Solaris skills to assist with
    legacy Solaris to Linux migrations.

    Btw, I know you know this, but every platform has legacy versions. Microsoft refers
    to W2K as legacy, Sun refers to Solaris 8 as legacy etc. That certainly does not mean
    Solaris 10 is legacy or W2K3 is legacy.

    Regards,


    Kerry Main
    Senior Consultant
    HP Services Canada
    Voice: 613-592-4660
    Fax: 613-591-4477
    kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom
    (remove the DOT's and AT)

    OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.



  15. Re: Rare job posting

    Dr. Dweeb wrote:
    > Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    >> DECForms wanted in Denmark.


    > Where did you see that*


    http://jobeasy.comon.dk/index.php/job/show/id=113450

    Arne

  16. Re: Rare job posting

    Bill Gunshannon wrote:
    > I guess the big question really is are these long term support
    > jobs or conversions?


    It was a contract job not a permanent job.

    But it did not mention anything about conversion
    to anything.

    Arne

  17. Re: Rare job posting

    Tom Linden wrote:
    > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:08:15 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> Denmark is a much smaller country than UK and the financial
    >> sector in Denmark has always been very blue.

    >
    > That is because Maersk Mckinney Moeller was a roommate of Tom Watson Jr.
    > at Yale.


    The blue I was talking about is IBM blue.

    Arne

  18. Re: Rare job posting

    Dr. Dweeb wrote:
    > Maersk Oil had VMS in the old days though for some stuff.
    >
    > Gone now I suspect


    I am pretty sure that is is long gone.

    I don't even think they went for Alpha.

    They had a VAX 9000 when that was new.

    But my impression is that in general 9000's went away pretty
    quickly while the 6000's went humming along for a decade
    longer.

    Arne

  19. Re: Rare job posting

    In article ,
    "Main, Kerry" writes:
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu] On
    >> Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
    >> Sent: October 19, 2007 8:24 AM
    >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
    >> Subject: Re: Rare job posting
    >>
    >> In article <47186439$0$7604$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>,
    >> "Dr. Dweeb" writes:
    >> > Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> >> Jan-Erik S÷derholm wrote:
    >> >>> Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >> >>>> I just saw a job posting in Denmark.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Required skills: VMS, Cobol, ACMS, DECForms, VAX and Alpha.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Long time since I last saw one of those.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> In sweden I've seen 1 or 2 jobs postings (culsulting)
    >> >>> each months since this summer. Not in the public
    >> >>> job postings but on "consulting brookers" web sites.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Mainly full time, 6-12 months jobs.
    >> >>
    >> >> I think this was similar.
    >> >>
    >> >> But it is a long time since I have seen ACMS and
    >> >> DECForms wanted in Denmark.
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > Where did you see that*
    >> >

    >>
    >> I guess the big question really is are these long term support
    >> jobs or conversions? Why do I ask? About a year ago a major
    >> beltway bandit was advertising for Fortran Programmers (damn,
    >> why didn't I apply!!) Apparently the search went badly. Juat
    >> about a month ago they were looking for Java Programmers with
    >> a working knowledge of Fortran to do a conversion. The location
    >> was the same. Just because someone wants people with legacy
    >> experience doesn't mean long term survival for the legacy system.
    >>
    >> bill
    >>
    >> --
    >> Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three
    >> wolves
    >> bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
    >> University of Scranton |
    >> Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include

    > Same goes both ways .. Large Cust I was at was looking for Solaris skills to assist with
    > legacy Solaris to Linux migrations.


    Ummm..... How is that "both ways"? If it was Solaris to VMS I could
    see you dancing in the street, but Solaris to Linux? VMS still looses.

    > Btw, I know you know this, but every platform has legacy versions. Microsoft refers
    > to W2K as legacy, Sun refers to Solaris 8 as legacy etc. That certainly does not mean
    > Solaris 10 is legacy or W2K3 is legacy.


    I know you know this, but while old versions of Windows and Solaris are
    considered "legacy", most of the IT world considers all versions of VMS
    as legacy. Ask any computer science department.

    bill

    --
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    bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
    University of Scranton |
    Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include

  20. Re: Rare job posting

    In article <4719331a$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,
    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes:
    > Tom Linden wrote:
    >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:08:15 -0700, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    >>> Denmark is a much smaller country than UK and the financial
    >>> sector in Denmark has always been very blue.

    >>
    >> That is because Maersk Mckinney Moeller was a roommate of Tom Watson Jr.
    >> at Yale.

    >
    > The blue I was talking about is IBM blue.
    >


    Who did you think Tom Watson was?

    bill

    --
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    bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
    University of Scranton |
    Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include

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