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  1. Running a news server on OpenVMS

    I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB
    disk for this.

    Is there any documentation for this?


    Jim

  2. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > for this.
    >
    > Is there any documentation for this?


    Running a NNTP server is a real disk trasher.

    10 years ago the most used NNTP server for VMS was
    ANUNEWS.

    You could try and find it.

    Arne

  3. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    In article ,
    Arne Vajh°j wrote:

    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    > > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > > for this.
    > >
    > > Is there any documentation for this?

    >
    > Running a NNTP server is a real disk trasher.
    >
    > 10 years ago the most used NNTP server for VMS was
    > ANUNEWS.
    >
    > You could try and find it.
    >
    > Arne


    There is a version of ANUNEWS on the Freeware 4 CDs.

    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/ANU-NEWS/

    --
    Paul Sture

  4. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    In article <4537e741$0$10304$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, Jim Mehlhop writes:
    >I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB
    >disk for this.


    Problem is that there is no current news server software for OpenVMS.

    There used to be DNEWS from NETWINSITE (which I still use at home)
    and ANUNEWS freeware. Both have been discontinued many years ago, but
    still might work (I don't know if I could reinstall DNEWS if I need to
    but it still runs on my V8.2 - and I still have problems - like premature
    expiration of posts - which won't get fixed anymore - but I can't blame
    them, they got me my licenses for free! Thanks again, folks).

    If you have more than one disk, run VOLSHAD every time!

    If you want to run a news server, think how many groups you want to run
    and if they are binary (Binary groups are umpteen GB a day, so a 18GB will
    last a couple of minutes/hours). Make your the disk is not a IDE disk, but
    SCSI. IDE disks are only for storing the data (not for using the data then).
    Both my new 160GB IDE disks (with an ACARD USCSI Converter on my PWS433au)
    died within days after being used by the newsserver (I got a warranty
    replacement for both of them).

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  5. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Hello, Jim!

    I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:

    http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/


    Jim Mehlhop wrote:

    > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > for this.
    >
    > Is there any documentation for this?
    >
    >
    > Jim
    >


    --
    + WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker ............. Skype: SysMan-One +
    Delta Telecom JSC, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operator
    Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 716-3222
    +http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +

  6. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  7. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > for this.
    >
    > Is there any documentation for this?


    Running a NNTP server is a real disk trasher.

    10 years ago the most used NNTP server for VMS was
    ANUNEWS.

    You could try and find it.

    Arne

  8. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  9. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    In article ,
    Arne Vajh°j wrote:

    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    > > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > > for this.
    > >
    > > Is there any documentation for this?

    >
    > Running a NNTP server is a real disk trasher.
    >
    > 10 years ago the most used NNTP server for VMS was
    > ANUNEWS.
    >
    > You could try and find it.
    >
    > Arne


    There is a version of ANUNEWS on the Freeware 4 CDs.

    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/ANU-NEWS/

    --
    Paul Sture

  10. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  11. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  12. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  13. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    In article <4537e741$0$10304$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, Jim Mehlhop writes:
    >I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB
    >disk for this.


    Problem is that there is no current news server software for OpenVMS.

    There used to be DNEWS from NETWINSITE (which I still use at home)
    and ANUNEWS freeware. Both have been discontinued many years ago, but
    still might work (I don't know if I could reinstall DNEWS if I need to
    but it still runs on my V8.2 - and I still have problems - like premature
    expiration of posts - which won't get fixed anymore - but I can't blame
    them, they got me my licenses for free! Thanks again, folks).

    If you have more than one disk, run VOLSHAD every time!

    If you want to run a news server, think how many groups you want to run
    and if they are binary (Binary groups are umpteen GB a day, so a 18GB will
    last a couple of minutes/hours). Make your the disk is not a IDE disk, but
    SCSI. IDE disks are only for storing the data (not for using the data then).
    Both my new 160GB IDE disks (with an ACARD USCSI Converter on my PWS433au)
    died within days after being used by the newsserver (I got a warranty
    replacement for both of them).

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  14. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Hello, Jim!

    I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:

    http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/


    Jim Mehlhop wrote:

    > I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    > running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg and
    > about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an 18GB disk
    > for this.
    >
    > Is there any documentation for this?
    >
    >
    > Jim
    >


    --
    + WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker ............. Skype: SysMan-One +
    Delta Telecom JSC, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operator
    Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 716-3222
    +http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +

  15. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  16. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  17. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  18. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


  19. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    > Thanks Ruslan,
    >
    > I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    > disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    > Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).

    ANU have not support ACL, also it's keep article in separated files...



    >
    >
    >
    > Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    >
    >> Hello, Jim!
    >>
    >> I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >>
    >> http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >>> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >>> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >>> 18GB disk for this.
    >>>
    >>> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Jim
    >>>

    >>

    >



    --
    Cheers, Ruslan.
    +---------------------pure personal opinion------------------------+
    RADIUS Server for OpenVMS -> www.starlet.spb.ru/~laishev/
    ICQ: 319518233, Skype: SysMan-One, Mobile: +7 (812) 716-3222

  20. Re: Running a news server on OpenVMS

    Thanks Ruslan,

    I saw some datatrieve in there and Pthreads so I assume performance and
    disk fragmentation is not as bad as everyone is telling me about ANU (
    Which I couldn't find anymore at the old web site anyway).



    Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:
    > Hello, Jim!
    >
    > I running for the past 10 years this NNTP server:
    >
    > http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/nntp/
    >
    >
    > Jim Mehlhop wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to know how to set up my VMS box as a news server. I am
    >> running Multinet 5.1 and OpenVMS8.2 Alpha on a PWS500au with 640 meg
    >> and about 60 GB of free disk space. I could probably dedicate an
    >> 18GB disk for this.
    >>
    >> Is there any documentation for this?
    >>
    >>
    >> Jim
    >>

    >


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