Re: WTF-77? (Fortran newbie post)
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> Thanks again to you all on my previous posts.
> I just went up to the library where I work (I work at the College of
> Lake County in IL) and they had a ton of oldschool computing books
> about mainframes etc, and many about older languages like Fortran
> and Algol. So I grabbed one of the circa-1980 books on Fortran 77,
> and all it talked about was cards, cards, cards! Frankly, I know that
> the card punch is as "retro" as it gets, but I hate the things and
> have no interest in acquiring one. As I went through other F77 books,
> they all were referring to the same stuff.[/color]
> Can someone help me out in getting started using Fortran, or at least,
> what to do with all this info regarding punch cards? The books say
> things like "If you are using an interactive or real-time system, simply
> adapt this information to fit those needs", but it doesn't say how to![/color]
I thought offhand that cards went out before F77 came in. But maybe
the book authors hadn't kept up. I last used cards with F63.
Short summary: a Fortran source file is a text file, and can be prepared
on your "interactive or real-time" computer using the text editor of
your choice, saved as a disk file, and then submitted to the compiler.
If you wish, you can count out the columns as specified in the book.
Col <1-5> Statement Number (if any)
Col 6 Continuation mark (if any)
Col <7-71> Source Text
Col <73-80> reserved for card sequence number
All the implementations of Fortran that I have seen for computers
that have serial terminals, text editors, etc. rather than card readers
have a more free-form input style:
<Statement Number><tab><Source Text>
As I recall, if you want to continue the Source Text onto the next
line, you need to revert to the formal column style, counting out
5 spaces before the Continuation mark.
There is the potential for some confusion here, if your Fortran
compiler tries to enforce Col 73-80 Sequence Numbers by ignoring
everything on the line after Col 72. As I recall, this can be
turned off by a command-line switch, at least in PDP-11 F77.
Something else that some of the text-stream-oriented F77 compilers have
is the provision for end-of-line comments, delimited by ! as I recall.
<Statement Number><tab><Source Text> !<comment goes here>
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Re: WTF-77? (Fortran newbie post)
In article <200403060127.i261Rrv13415@opihi.ucsd.edu>,
Carl Lowenstein <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:[color=blue]
> I thought offhand that cards went out before F77 came in. But maybe
> the book authors hadn't kept up. I last used cards with F63.[/color]
I was still using cards on the IBM 4331 in 1980 and then when I moved
to the UNIVAC 1100 we used cards at least through 1984 when I left
the Mainframe world. I would imagine card systems stuck around for
even a while after that.
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
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