Have you considered DDS-4 DAT drives & media?

It will hold 20/40GB per tape and it would still offer
compatibility with your existing DDS-3 media.

It may also come in handy if you need to restore
from your existing library.

H-P offers a DDS-4 autoloader (of course).

Other vendors of DDS-4 Autoloaders include Sony
(the model TSL-11000 holds eight DDS-4 cartridges)
and Seagate (Scorpion).

I hope this helps.

pdp

"Jürgen Breiner" wrote ...
> Hello,
>
> i´m looking for a new AutoLoader - the old HP Surestore
> DAT 24x6 has many problems an the warranty is out !
>
> The Backupdata is to much for backup in the night - or the
> night is to short !! :-)))
>
> So i need a DLT or AIT Storage Device
>
> What is the right device to backup 20-30 GB in the night
> and have tapes for a week ?
>
> Thanks
> Jürgen

Moin Juergen,

our exepirence with DAT autoloader shows,
after 3 years of use you have to buy a new one.
So it maybe not worse to look for a small DLT
or LTO. They stay longer.
They are more expencive.
Good luck
Rainer

"Phil Pucci" wrote:
>Have you considered DDS-4 DAT drives & media?
>
>It will hold 20/40GB per tape and it would still offer
>compatibility with your existing DDS-3 media.
>
>It may also come in handy if you need to restore
>from your existing library.
>
>H-P offers a DDS-4 autoloader (of course).
>
>Other vendors of DDS-4 Autoloaders include Sony
>(the model TSL-11000 holds eight DDS-4 cartridges)
>and Seagate (Scorpion).
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>pdp
>
>"Jürgen Breiner" wrote ...
>> Hello,
>>
>> i´m looking for a new AutoLoader - the old HP Surestore
>> DAT 24x6 has many problems an the warranty is out !
>>
>> The Backupdata is to much for backup in the night - or the
>> night is to short !! :-)))
>>
>> So i need a DLT or AIT Storage Device
>>
>> What is the right device to backup 20-30 GB in the night
>> and have tapes for a week ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jürgen
>
>
>

Hello Jürgen,

I agree with Rainer. We also stopped using our Autoloader after 3 years.
We're using IBM LTO - works like a charm! Worth buying!

-jenn

"Rainer Schumacher" wrote:
>
>Moin Juergen,
>
>our exepirence with DAT autoloader shows,
>after 3 years of use you have to buy a new one.
>So it maybe not worse to look for a small DLT
>or LTO. They stay longer.
>They are more expencive.
>Good luck
>Rainer
>
>"Phil Pucci" wrote:
>>Have you considered DDS-4 DAT drives & media?
>>
>>It will hold 20/40GB per tape and it would still offer
>>compatibility with your existing DDS-3 media.
>>
>>It may also come in handy if you need to restore
>>from your existing library.
>>
>>H-P offers a DDS-4 autoloader (of course).
>>
>>Other vendors of DDS-4 Autoloaders include Sony
>>(the model TSL-11000 holds eight DDS-4 cartridges)
>>and Seagate (Scorpion).
>>
>>I hope this helps.
>>
>>pdp
>>
>>"Jürgen Breiner" wrote ...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> i´m looking for a new AutoLoader - the old HP Surestore
>>> DAT 24x6 has many problems an the warranty is out !
>>>
>>> The Backupdata is to much for backup in the night - or the
>>> night is to short !! :-)))
>>>
>>> So i need a DLT or AIT Storage Device
>>>
>>> What is the right device to backup 20-30 GB in the night
>>> and have tapes for a week ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jürgen
>>
>>
>>
>

I agree with the last poster. An LTO unit is deffinately the way to go. IBM
makes one (3581-L17) that hold 100/200 GBs and hold 7 tapes.

"Rainer Schumacher" wrote:
>
>Moin Juergen,
>
>our exepirence with DAT autoloader shows,
>after 3 years of use you have to buy a new one.
>So it maybe not worse to look for a small DLT
>or LTO. They stay longer.
>They are more expencive.
>Good luck
>Rainer
>
>"Phil Pucci" wrote:
>>Have you considered DDS-4 DAT drives & media?
>>
>>It will hold 20/40GB per tape and it would still offer
>>compatibility with your existing DDS-3 media.
>>
>>It may also come in handy if you need to restore
>>from your existing library.
>>
>>H-P offers a DDS-4 autoloader (of course).
>>
>>Other vendors of DDS-4 Autoloaders include Sony
>>(the model TSL-11000 holds eight DDS-4 cartridges)
>>and Seagate (Scorpion).
>>
>>I hope this helps.
>>
>>pdp
>>
>>"Jürgen Breiner" wrote ...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> i´m looking for a new AutoLoader - the old HP Surestore
>>> DAT 24x6 has many problems an the warranty is out !
>>>
>>> The Backupdata is to much for backup in the night - or the
>>> night is to short !! :-)))
>>>
>>> So i need a DLT or AIT Storage Device
>>>
>>> What is the right device to backup 20-30 GB in the night
>>> and have tapes for a week ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jürgen
>>
>>
>>
>

It is a bit offi-topic, but I would like to learn more about
the relative economics of LTO drives and media.

We just purchased a Sony TSL-11000 (eight cartridge
DDS-4 autoloader) for less than US$1000. The cost of
extra magazines is around US$75. These magazines
each hold 8 cartridges, ostensibly seven DDS-4 (or
other DDS media such as DDS-3) tapes and one
cleaning cartridge for one week's backup requirements
for environments that require less than 140GB (or less
than 280GB compressed) per week. Specifically,
seven cartridges of 20/40GB each plus the one
cleaning cartridge. Of course, we run the full eight
(160/320GB) and then run the cleaning cycle each
week before inserting a separate eight cartridge
magazine.

So, if you run 20 to 30GB per night, as the poster
suggests, I would like to compare the relative economy
of this type of drive and media with that of the LTO drive
and media as mentioned by yourself and others.

Thanks in advance,

pdp

"Rainer Schumacher" wrote ....
> Moin Juergen,
> our exepirence with DAT autoloader shows,
> after 3 years of use you have to buy a new one.
> So it maybe not worse to look for a small DLT
> or LTO. They stay longer.
> They are more expencive.
> Good luck
> Rainer

> "Phil Pucci" wrote:
> >Have you considered DDS-4 DAT drives & media?
> >
> >It will hold 20/40GB per tape and it would still offer
> >compatibility with your existing DDS-3 media.
> >
> >It may also come in handy if you need to restore
> >from your existing library.
> >
> >H-P offers a DDS-4 autoloader (of course).
> >
> >Other vendors of DDS-4 Autoloaders include Sony
> >(the model TSL-11000 holds eight DDS-4 cartridges)
> >and Seagate (Scorpion).
> >
> >I hope this helps.
> >
> >pdp


> >"Jürgen Breiner" wrote ...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> i´m looking for a new AutoLoader - the old HP Surestore
> >> DAT 24x6 has many problems an the warranty is out !
> >>
> >> The Backupdata is to much for backup in the night - or the
> >> night is to short !! :-)))
> >>
> >> So i need a DLT or AIT Storage Device
> >>
> >> What is the right device to backup 20-30 GB in the night
> >> and have tapes for a week ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Jürgen