After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?

IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5

See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm

Rod Savard wrote:

> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we are
> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of a
> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I find
> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup. We
> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes, so
> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>
> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed latest
> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>
> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails more
> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>
> Help is appreciated!!
>
> --
> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com

I will check this out and get back to you.

--
Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com


"Ken Putnam" wrote in message
news:3B6CABA9.22437676@usa.net...
> After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as
"unrecognized"?
>
> IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>
> See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
> and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>
> Rod Savard wrote:
>
> > On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we
are
> > often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of a
> > backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I find
> > this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
We
> > are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
so
> > it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
> >
> > Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
latest
> > Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive,
motherboard,
> > and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
> >
> > We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
more
> > often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
> >
> > Help is appreciated!!
> >
> > --
> > Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
> > Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
> > rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>

I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup, it gives
me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been able
to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.

I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and it
still doesn't work.

Ken Putnam wrote:
>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>
>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>
>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>
>Rod Savard wrote:
>
>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we
are
>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of a
>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I find
>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
We
>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
so
>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>
>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed latest
>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>
>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
more
>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>
>> Help is appreciated!!
>>
>> --
>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>

When you change tapes, run an inventory.

Is the tape info displayed in blue or black. Blue indicates overwritable,
black protected.

If it displays in black, double check the media retention period from Media/Righ
click media set/ properties

"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>
>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup, it
gives
>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been able
>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>
>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and it
>still doesn't work.
>
>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>
>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>
>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>
>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>
>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we
>are
>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of
a
>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I find
>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
> We
>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
>so
>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>
>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
latest
>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>
>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>more
>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>
>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>
>

If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do is re-label
them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to prevent
it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.

"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>
>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup, it
gives
>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been able
>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>
>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and it
>still doesn't work.
>
>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>
>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>
>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>
>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>
>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we
>are
>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of
a
>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I find
>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
> We
>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
>so
>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>
>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
latest
>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>
>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>more
>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>
>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>
>

Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch to
see.

Thanks for the quick response.

"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>
>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do is re-label
>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to prevent
>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>
>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>
>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup, it
>gives
>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been
able
>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>
>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and
it
>>still doesn't work.
>>
>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>
>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>>
>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>
>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>
>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server) we
>>are
>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of
>a
>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I
find
>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
>> We
>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
>>so
>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>
>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>latest
>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>
>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>>more
>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>
>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>
>>
>

v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.

Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants more/different
tapes?

"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>
>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch
to
>see.
>
>Thanks for the quick response.
>
>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>
>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do is
re-label
>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to prevent
>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>
>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>
>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup, it
>>gives
>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been
>able
>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>
>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and
>it
>>>still doesn't work.
>>>
>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>>
>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>>>
>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>
>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
we
>>>are
>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle of
>>a
>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error. I
>find
>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
>>> We
>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
>>>so
>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>
>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>latest
>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>
>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>>>more
>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Then, quiet honestly, it doesn't work properly in 8.5. I have 8.5 installed,
Rev 3572. The media is not showing as unrecognizable, they are still showing
as 'infinite', which is what they showed as before I dumped NT off of this
server and installed Windows 2000 Server.

The only thing that works for me at this point is to erase the tapes, and
the backup works. I have erased, cataloged, performed a re-inventory, and
still doesn't work.

I have a screenshot of the error I am getting, but its title of the subject
line that is shown above.

"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>
>v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.
>
>Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants more/different
>tapes?
>
>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>
>>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch
>to
>>see.
>>
>>Thanks for the quick response.
>>
>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>
>>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do is
>re-label
>>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to
prevent
>>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
>>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>>
>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup,
it
>>>gives
>>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been
>>able
>>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>>
>>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and
>>it
>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>>>
>>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>>>>
>>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
>we
>>>>are
>>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle
of
>>>a
>>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error.
I
>>find
>>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
>>>> We
>>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4 tapes,
>>>>so
>>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>>latest
>>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>>>>more
>>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

if the tapes are not marked "unrecognizable", then the patch would not have
helped anyway.

when you inventory, are all tapes displayed in blue, or are they in black?

How much data is backed up before the "insert" alert is popped up?

What kind of drive? what capacity tapes?

"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>
>Then, quiet honestly, it doesn't work properly in 8.5. I have 8.5 installed,
>Rev 3572. The media is not showing as unrecognizable, they are still showing
>as 'infinite', which is what they showed as before I dumped NT off of this
>server and installed Windows 2000 Server.
>
>The only thing that works for me at this point is to erase the tapes, and
>the backup works. I have erased, cataloged, performed a re-inventory, and
>still doesn't work.
>
>I have a screenshot of the error I am getting, but its title of the subject
>line that is shown above.
>
>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>
>>v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.
>>
>>Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants more/different
>>tapes?
>>
>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch
>>to
>>>see.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the quick response.
>>>
>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do is
>>re-label
>>>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to
>prevent
>>>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
>>>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>>>
>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup,
>it
>>>>gives
>>>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been
>>>able
>>>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5 and
>>>it
>>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
>>we
>>>>>are
>>>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle
>of
>>>>a
>>>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error.

>I
>>>find
>>>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
>>>>> We
>>>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4
tapes,
>>>>>so
>>>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>>>latest
>>>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it fails
>>>>>more
>>>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

If I erase them, the list is in blue. Inventory is in black.

The device I am using is a Dell Powervault 120T, with the Quantum DLTtape
IV that holds a TON of space on them, I can't recall the exact amount it
holds. Installed onto a Dell Poweredge 6450 server, Windows 2000 Server,
SP1 (NOT Advanced Server). I have tried Service Pack 2 as well, but doesnt
help either.

None of the data is backed up at all, before it will backup the info, it
prompts me for the insert overwritable media.

"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>
>if the tapes are not marked "unrecognizable", then the patch would not have
>helped anyway.
>
>when you inventory, are all tapes displayed in blue, or are they in black?
>
>How much data is backed up before the "insert" alert is popped up?
>
>What kind of drive? what capacity tapes?
>
>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>
>>Then, quiet honestly, it doesn't work properly in 8.5. I have 8.5 installed,
>>Rev 3572. The media is not showing as unrecognizable, they are still showing
>>as 'infinite', which is what they showed as before I dumped NT off of this
>>server and installed Windows 2000 Server.
>>
>>The only thing that works for me at this point is to erase the tapes, and
>>the backup works. I have erased, cataloged, performed a re-inventory,
and
>>still doesn't work.
>>
>>I have a screenshot of the error I am getting, but its title of the subject
>>line that is shown above.
>>
>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>
>>>v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.
>>>
>>>Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants more/different
>>>tapes?
>>>
>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch
>>>to
>>>>see.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the quick response.
>>>>
>>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do
is
>>>re-label
>>>>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch to
>>prevent
>>>>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to access
>>>>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup,
>>it
>>>>>gives
>>>>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have been
>>>>able
>>>>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5
and
>>>>it
>>>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to v8.5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
>>>we
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle
>>of
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error.
>
>>I
>>>>find
>>>>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a backup.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4
>tapes,
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>>>>latest
>>>>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it
fails
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

OK - when the inventory returns info in blue, the tape is overwritable, when
it returns in black, the tape is protected by BENT

Double check the retention period of the media set that resides on the tape
from Media tab, right click on media set/properties

if that is all that is wrong, then dragging the volume to the scratch media
set should also work, rather than erase or label.

"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>
>If I erase them, the list is in blue. Inventory is in black.
>
>The device I am using is a Dell Powervault 120T, with the Quantum DLTtape
>IV that holds a TON of space on them, I can't recall the exact amount it
>holds. Installed onto a Dell Poweredge 6450 server, Windows 2000 Server,
>SP1 (NOT Advanced Server). I have tried Service Pack 2 as well, but doesnt
>help either.
>
>None of the data is backed up at all, before it will backup the info, it
>prompts me for the insert overwritable media.
>
>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>
>>if the tapes are not marked "unrecognizable", then the patch would not
have
>>helped anyway.
>>
>>when you inventory, are all tapes displayed in blue, or are they in black?
>>
>>How much data is backed up before the "insert" alert is popped up?
>>
>>What kind of drive? what capacity tapes?
>>
>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>
>>>Then, quiet honestly, it doesn't work properly in 8.5. I have 8.5 installed,
>>>Rev 3572. The media is not showing as unrecognizable, they are still
showing
>>>as 'infinite', which is what they showed as before I dumped NT off of
this
>>>server and installed Windows 2000 Server.
>>>
>>>The only thing that works for me at this point is to erase the tapes,
and
>>>the backup works. I have erased, cataloged, performed a re-inventory,
>and
>>>still doesn't work.
>>>
>>>I have a screenshot of the error I am getting, but its title of the subject
>>>line that is shown above.
>>>
>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.

>>>>
>>>>Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants
more/different
>>>>tapes?
>>>>
>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the patch
>>>>to
>>>>>see.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the quick response.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do
>is
>>>>re-label
>>>>>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch
to
>>>prevent
>>>>>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to
access
>>>>>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup,
>>>it
>>>>>>gives
>>>>>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have
been
>>>>>able
>>>>>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5
>and
>>>>>it
>>>>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as "unrecognized"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to
v8.5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
>>>>we
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle
>>>of
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error.
>>
>>>I
>>>>>find
>>>>>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a
backup.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4
>>tapes,
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>>>>>latest
>>>>>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it
>fails
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

OK, I just moved them over to scratch media, we will see how it goes this
evening, at 5:30PM.

Thanks for all the help, Ken. I will post here and let you know how it goes.

"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>
>OK - when the inventory returns info in blue, the tape is overwritable,
when
>it returns in black, the tape is protected by BENT
>
>Double check the retention period of the media set that resides on the tape
>from Media tab, right click on media set/properties
>
>if that is all that is wrong, then dragging the volume to the scratch media
>set should also work, rather than erase or label.
>
>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>
>>If I erase them, the list is in blue. Inventory is in black.
>>
>>The device I am using is a Dell Powervault 120T, with the Quantum DLTtape
>>IV that holds a TON of space on them, I can't recall the exact amount it
>>holds. Installed onto a Dell Poweredge 6450 server, Windows 2000 Server,
>>SP1 (NOT Advanced Server). I have tried Service Pack 2 as well, but doesnt
>>help either.
>>
>>None of the data is backed up at all, before it will backup the info, it
>>prompts me for the insert overwritable media.
>>
>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>
>>>if the tapes are not marked "unrecognizable", then the patch would not
>have
>>>helped anyway.
>>>
>>>when you inventory, are all tapes displayed in blue, or are they in black?
>>>
>>>How much data is backed up before the "insert" alert is popped up?
>>>
>>>What kind of drive? what capacity tapes?
>>>
>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Then, quiet honestly, it doesn't work properly in 8.5. I have 8.5 installed,
>>>>Rev 3572. The media is not showing as unrecognizable, they are still
>showing
>>>>as 'infinite', which is what they showed as before I dumped NT off of
>this
>>>>server and installed Windows 2000 Server.
>>>>
>>>>The only thing that works for me at this point is to erase the tapes,
>and
>>>>the backup works. I have erased, cataloged, performed a re-inventory,
>>and
>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>>I have a screenshot of the error I am getting, but its title of the subject
>>>>line that is shown above.
>>>>
>>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>v8.5 has the patch built in, so don't bother downloading the patch.

>
>>>>>
>>>>>Are the tapes marked "unrecognizable", or is it just that BENT wants
>more/different
>>>>>tapes?
>>>>>
>>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, the update to 8.5 didn't work the problem, so I will try the
patch
>>>>>to
>>>>>>see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the quick response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Ken Putnam" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If the tapes are indeed marked "unrecognizable" then all you can do
>>is
>>>>>re-label
>>>>>>>them, and either update to v8.5 or apply the MediaFix_234341 patch
>to
>>>>prevent
>>>>>>>it from happening again. (applying the patch will not allow you to
>access
>>>>>>>any "unrecognizable" tapes. You'll still need to re-label them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Shawn Thompson" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am having this same issue, however, not in the middle of a backup,
>>>>it
>>>>>>>gives
>>>>>>>>me that error when the backup starts. The only thing that I have
>been
>>>>>>able
>>>>>>>>to do, is to erase all of the tapes, and it will successfully backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have upgraded to the latest version of the Veritas software, 8.5
>>and
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>still doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ken Putnam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>After this happens, is the tape that was in the drive marked as
"unrecognized"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>IF so you need to apply the MediaFix _234341 patch or upgrade to
>v8.5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>See http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/234341.htm
>>>>>>>>>and http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/233735.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rod Savard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On one of our servers (Backup Exec 8.0, DDS4, Windows 2000 Server)
>>>>>we
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>> often getting an "insert overwritable media" prompt in the middle
>>>>of
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>> backup! That error follows by an "unable to mount media" error.
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>>>find
>>>>>>>>>> this quite strange that the message appears in the middle of a
>backup.
>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> are nowhere near filling up the 20GB native capacity of the DDS4
>>>tapes,
>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>> it can't be a "tape getting full" error.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Things we have tried: installed latest build of BEX 8.0. Installed
>>>>>>>latest
>>>>>>>>>> Veritas tape drivers. Replaced tapes. Replaced tape drive, motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>> and SCSI cable. (Dell's idea when we wanted the drive replaced.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We still have the problem. It is somewhat intermittent, but it
>>fails
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>> often than it succeeds. The failure point is also not consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Help is appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Savard - Delphi Developer
>>>>>>>>>> Savard Software - Tri-Cities, Washington, USA
>>>>>>>>>> rodney@savard.com - http://www.savard.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>