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Michael B. Trausch wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:12:47 -0400
> caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I found having NFS installed made printing from windows to a printer
>> on Linux easier.[/color]
>
> I assume use were using Windows Services for UNIX to make that
> possible? NFS is a protocol of UNIX origin...
>
> --- Mike
>[/color]
Yes I cleared that up stating NFS with Windows NFS Client in second post.
caver1
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
[color=blue]
> Adam wrote:[color=green]
>> MarkA wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:27:23 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/CUPS/HP_LaserJet_5"
>>>> 2) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5"
>>>
>>> Is the printer name correct? Use a terminal window to look at the file,
>>> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" (you need root privileges). If it doesn't say
>>> <Printer HP_LaserJet_5>, you have the name wrong.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" contains ...
>>[/color]
>
> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
> # Written by cupsd on 2008-10-14 13:21
> <DefaultPrinter HP_LaserJet_5>
> Info
> Location desktop
> DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
> State Idle
> StateTime 1224015696
> Accepting Yes
> Shared Yes
> JobSheets none none
> QuotaPeriod 0
> PageLimit 0
> KLimit 0
> OpPolicy default
> ErrorPolicy retry-job
> </Printer>
> <Printer PDF>
> Info PDF
> DeviceURI cups-pdf:/
> State Idle
> StateTime 1214994123
> Accepting Yes
> Shared No
> JobSheets none none
> QuotaPeriod 0
> PageLimit 0
> KLimit 0
> OpPolicy default
> ErrorPolicy retry-job
> </Printer>[/color]
It appears that everything is correct on the Linux end. Now the trick is
to get XP to see it.
I just set up an XP to print to a CUPS server in my office. Yesterday, it
wouldn't work; today it worked without a hitch. You could always try the
XP cure-all: reboot often.
XP would not find the CUPS server by hostname alone. I had to either use
the FQDN, or enter the IP address: [url]http://192.168.1.5:631/printers/lp0[/url]
As I said, yesterday it would say "Could not complete...." Today, it
worked fine. Go figure.
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
"MarkA" <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2008.10.17.12.13.01.716236@nowhere.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Adam wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> MarkA wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:27:23 -0700, Adam wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 1) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/CUPS/HP_LaserJet_5"
> >>>> 2) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5"
> >>>
> >>> Is the printer name correct? Use a terminal window to look at the file,
> >>> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" (you need root privileges). If it doesn't say
> >>> <Printer HP_LaserJet_5>, you have the name wrong.
> >>>
> >>
> >> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" contains ...
> >>[/color]
> >
> > # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
> > # Written by cupsd on 2008-10-14 13:21
> > <DefaultPrinter HP_LaserJet_5>
> > Info
> > Location desktop
> > DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
> > State Idle
> > StateTime 1224015696
> > Accepting Yes
> > Shared Yes
> > JobSheets none none
> > QuotaPeriod 0
> > PageLimit 0
> > KLimit 0
> > OpPolicy default
> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
> > </Printer>
> > <Printer PDF>
> > Info PDF
> > DeviceURI cups-pdf:/
> > State Idle
> > StateTime 1214994123
> > Accepting Yes
> > Shared No
> > JobSheets none none
> > QuotaPeriod 0
> > PageLimit 0
> > KLimit 0
> > OpPolicy default
> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
> > </Printer>[/color]
>
> It appears that everything is correct on the Linux end. Now the trick is
> to get XP to see it.
>
> I just set up an XP to print to a CUPS server in my office. Yesterday, it
> wouldn't work; today it worked without a hitch. You could always try the
> XP cure-all: reboot often.
>
> XP would not find the CUPS server by hostname alone. I had to either use
> the FQDN, or enter the IP address: [url]http://192.168.1.5:631/printers/lp0[/url]
> As I said, yesterday it would say "Could not complete...." Today, it
> worked fine. Go figure.
>
> --
> MarkA
> Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
> About eight o'clock
>[/color]
Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
[url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
"Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
[[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
"Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "MarkA" <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2008.10.17.12.13.01.716236@nowhere.com...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Adam wrote:
>> >> MarkA wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:27:23 -0700, Adam wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> 1) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/CUPS/HP_LaserJet_5"
>> >>>> 2) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5"
>> >>>
>> >>> Is the printer name correct? Use a terminal window to look at the file,
>> >>> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" (you need root privileges). If it doesn't say
>> >>> <Printer HP_LaserJet_5>, you have the name wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" contains ...
>> >>
>> >
>> > # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
>> > # Written by cupsd on 2008-10-14 13:21
>> > <DefaultPrinter HP_LaserJet_5>
>> > Info
>> > Location desktop
>> > DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
>> > State Idle
>> > StateTime 1224015696
>> > Accepting Yes
>> > Shared Yes
>> > JobSheets none none
>> > QuotaPeriod 0
>> > PageLimit 0
>> > KLimit 0
>> > OpPolicy default
>> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
>> > </Printer>
>> > <Printer PDF>
>> > Info PDF
>> > DeviceURI cups-pdf:/
>> > State Idle
>> > StateTime 1214994123
>> > Accepting Yes
>> > Shared No
>> > JobSheets none none
>> > QuotaPeriod 0
>> > PageLimit 0
>> > KLimit 0
>> > OpPolicy default
>> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
>> > </Printer>[/color]
>>
>> It appears that everything is correct on the Linux end. Now the trick is
>> to get XP to see it.
>>
>> I just set up an XP to print to a CUPS server in my office. Yesterday, it
>> wouldn't work; today it worked without a hitch. You could always try the
>> XP cure-all: reboot often.
>>
>> XP would not find the CUPS server by hostname alone. I had to either use
>> the FQDN, or enter the IP address: [url]http://192.168.1.5:631/printers/lp0[/url]
>> As I said, yesterday it would say "Could not complete...." Today, it
>> worked fine. Go figure.
>>
>> --
>> MarkA
>> Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
>> About eight o'clock
>>[/color]
>
> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>
> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
If you want your Linux box to show up in Network Neighborhood, you have to
have Samba running. There is a nice explanation of how Network
Neighborhood browsing works somewhere out there in cyberspace; I read it a
while ago.
I'm pretty sure that Win98SE doesn't support IPP. If there is some add-on
that allows it, that's great. However, I think your best bet would be to
get a good bootleg copy of XP Pro Corporate Edition (no call M$ to
activate) off Pirate Bay. XP is way better than 98 (or Vista, for that
matter).
--
MarkA
Keeper of the Butter Dish of Balshazar
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
[color=blue]
> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>
> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
I've noticed similar behavior here as well and I'm running XP on the other
machines!
Sometimes it works fine, other times it doesn't see the printer or if it
does see the printer, the job goes out in space somewhere.
Very weird.
Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
>> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
>> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
>> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
>> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
>> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
>> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
>> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>>
>> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
>
> I've noticed similar behavior here as well and I'm running XP on the other
> machines!
> Sometimes it works fine, other times it doesn't see the printer or if it
> does see the printer, the job goes out in space somewhere.
>
> Very weird.[/color]
I had the same problems with sometimes the printer is here and sometimes
it's not.
So I tried NFS and haven't had to look back. Just had to load the
printer driver on the XP box.
Still like samba better for file transfer.
caver1
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:59:49 -0400, MarkA wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "MarkA" <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2008.10.17.12.13.01.716236@nowhere.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>>
>>> > Adam wrote:
>>> >> MarkA wrote:
>>> >>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:27:23 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> 1) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/CUPS/HP_LaserJet_5"
>>> >>>> 2) "http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is the printer name correct? Use a terminal window to look at the file,
>>> >>> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" (you need root privileges). If it doesn't say
>>> >>> <Printer HP_LaserJet_5>, you have the name wrong.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> "/etc/cups/printers.conf" contains ...
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
>>> > # Written by cupsd on 2008-10-14 13:21
>>> > <DefaultPrinter HP_LaserJet_5>
>>> > Info
>>> > Location desktop
>>> > DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
>>> > State Idle
>>> > StateTime 1224015696
>>> > Accepting Yes
>>> > Shared Yes
>>> > JobSheets none none
>>> > QuotaPeriod 0
>>> > PageLimit 0
>>> > KLimit 0
>>> > OpPolicy default
>>> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
>>> > </Printer>
>>> > <Printer PDF>
>>> > Info PDF
>>> > DeviceURI cups-pdf:/
>>> > State Idle
>>> > StateTime 1214994123
>>> > Accepting Yes
>>> > Shared No
>>> > JobSheets none none
>>> > QuotaPeriod 0
>>> > PageLimit 0
>>> > KLimit 0
>>> > OpPolicy default
>>> > ErrorPolicy retry-job
>>> > </Printer>
>>>
>>> It appears that everything is correct on the Linux end. Now the trick is
>>> to get XP to see it.
>>>
>>> I just set up an XP to print to a CUPS server in my office. Yesterday, it
>>> wouldn't work; today it worked without a hitch. You could always try the
>>> XP cure-all: reboot often.
>>>
>>> XP would not find the CUPS server by hostname alone. I had to either use
>>> the FQDN, or enter the IP address: [url]http://192.168.1.5:631/printers/lp0[/url]
>>> As I said, yesterday it would say "Could not complete...." Today, it
>>> worked fine. Go figure.
>>>
>>> --
>>> MarkA
>>> Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
>>> About eight o'clock
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
>> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
>> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
>> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
>> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
>> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
>> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
>> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>>
>> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
>
> If you want your Linux box to show up in Network Neighborhood, you have to
> have Samba running. There is a nice explanation of how Network
> Neighborhood browsing works somewhere out there in cyberspace; I read it a
> while ago.[/color]
Here's the URL:
[url]http://www.linux-mag.com/id/785[/url]
You have to register (it's worth it), and the article is a bit technical,
but it will give you some insight into how NN works, and why it can be so
quirky.
[color=blue]
>
> I'm pretty sure that Win98SE doesn't support IPP. If there is some
> add-on that allows it, that's great. However, I think your best bet
> would be to get a good bootleg copy of XP Pro Corporate Edition (no call
> M$ to activate) off Pirate Bay. XP is way better than 98 (or Vista, for
> that matter).[/color]
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
MarkA wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "MarkA" <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2008.10.17.12.13.01.716236@nowhere.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>>[/color][/color][/color]
<snip-snip-snip-snip-snip>
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
>> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
>> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
>> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
>> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
>> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
>> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
>> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>>
>> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
>
> If you want your Linux box to show up in Network Neighborhood, you have to
> have Samba running. There is a nice explanation of how Network
> Neighborhood browsing works somewhere out there in cyberspace; I read it a
> while ago.
>
> I'm pretty sure that Win98SE doesn't support IPP. If there is some add-on
> that allows it, that's great. However, I think your best bet would be to
> get a good bootleg copy of XP Pro Corporate Edition (no call M$ to
> activate) off Pirate Bay. XP is way better than 98 (or Vista, for that
> matter).
>[/color]
Install yet another OS? Aiya!
I'll never get any work done. But, I'm considering it.
Anyways, the following URL ...
[url]http://www.linux-mag.com/id/474[/url]
has an article about accessing Linux resources from Windows.
And, the following URL ...
[url]http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=224[/url]
shows how to configure Samba for sharing without user/password.
I'm trying to do a combination of both but something is not right.
Using SWAT, why do I see only these buttons (HOME, STATUS, VIEW and
PASSWORD) while the following URL ...
[url]http://www.linux-mag.com/images/2000-04/img2/newbies_05.jpg[/url]
shows additional buttons (GLOBALS, SHARES, PRINTERS and Commit Changes)?
Here's a brief view of my [url]http://localhost:901/viewconfig[/url] ...
Current Config
# Samba config file created using SWAT
# from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)
# Date: 2008/10/20 11:15:13
[global]
server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
interfaces = lo, eth0
bind interfaces only = Yes
security = SHARE
map to guest = Bad User
obey pam restrictions = Yes
passdb backend = tdbsam
pam password change = Yes
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n
*Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
unix password sync = Yes
syslog = 0
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 1000
printcap name = cups
dns proxy = No
usershare allow guests = Yes
panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
invalid users = root
hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Printer Drivers
path = /var/lib/samba/printers
=====================================================================
Even though I set "browseable = yes" under [printers] section,
it still shows up as "browseable = No" (above). Why?
I also had the following problem ...
[url]http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361[/url]
with my /etc/hosts file. I fixed it but how can I prevent this?
Also, am I suppose to put the workgroup from "/etc/samba/smb.conf"
in the "Domain name:" field of Network Settings dialog's General tab?
MarkA wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:59:49 -0400, MarkA wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:55 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "MarkA" <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2008.10.17.12.13.01.716236@nowhere.com...
>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:35 -0700, Adam wrote:
>>>>[/color][/color][/color]
<snip-snip-snip-snip-snip>
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>> Yeah, same here ... the Ubuntu print server does not show up consistently on
>>> the Windows Network Neighborhood. I was able to "Print Test Page" via
>>> [url]http://192.168.1.101:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5[/url] from Firefox. But,
>>> "Add Printer" still cannot locate the Ubuntu print server consistently.
>>> I'm finding CUPS-IPP too frustrating to get working with Win98SE.
>>> [[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,162213,00.asp[/url] was helpful.]
>>> Other than Windows Update, is there another way to verify that
>>> "Internet Print Service" is installed on Win98SE?
>>>
>>> I'm about to give up on CUPS-IPP for now and look into Samba instead.[/color]
>> If you want your Linux box to show up in Network Neighborhood, you have to
>> have Samba running. There is a nice explanation of how Network
>> Neighborhood browsing works somewhere out there in cyberspace; I read it a
>> while ago.[/color]
>
> Here's the URL:
>
> [url]http://www.linux-mag.com/id/785[/url]
>
> You have to register (it's worth it), and the article is a bit technical,
> but it will give you some insight into how NN works, and why it can be so
> quirky.
>[/color]
Thanks! Looks like I found a different article from the same magazine.
I'll go over it.
Adam wrote:[color=blue]
> MarkA wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:59:49 -0400, MarkA wrote:
>>[/color][/color]
<snip-snip-snip-snip-snip>
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> If you want your Linux box to show up in Network Neighborhood, you
>>> have to
>>> have Samba running. There is a nice explanation of how Network
>>> Neighborhood browsing works somewhere out there in cyberspace; I read
>>> it a
>>> while ago.[/color]
>>
>> Here's the URL:
>>
>> [url]http://www.linux-mag.com/id/785[/url]
>>
>> You have to register (it's worth it), and the article is a bit technical,
>> but it will give you some insight into how NN works, and why it can be so
>> quirky.
>>[/color]
>
> Thanks! Looks like I found a different article from the same magazine.
> I'll go over it.
>[/color]
Excellent technical article. Just what I need to fill in all the
missing background information crucial for understanding Linux/Windows
networking. Again, thanks!