On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:03:43 +0200, Jens wrote:

> Hi
>
> Beeing a novice I'm having difficulties getting a G400 to work in
> 1024x1280 with Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop PC.

[...]

> I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows

In which case, why did you bother posting to this group?

Byeeeee,

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:03:43 +0200, Jens wrote:

> Hi

> I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows - it works for people like
> me much more "straight forward"

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

In Lionel B:

[Snip...]

> In which case, why did you bother posting to this group?

It's like a public service announcement: "I'M A WINTROLL--PLONK ME!!!"

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:03:43 +0200, Jens wrote:

> I thought that linux, specially UBUNTU, was a mature product that would
> create a useful PC "out of the box" without the need of an IT-expert.
>
> I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows - it works for people like
> me much more "straight forward"

Because, after all, no Windows box in history has ever had a problem like
this.

Sorry, we don't need another half-witted troll here; we have plenty.

"Jens" wrote in
news:48f34731$0$56779$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.d k:

> Hi
>
> Beeing a novice I'm having difficulties getting a G400 to work in
> 1024x1280 with Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop PC.
>
> I have installed the desktop version and the result is that I can
> choose between 400x300, 640x480 and 800x600

>
> I have also tried to edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf but it contains no
> line with displ resolution or anything like it.

Probably you will need to add the horizontal and vertical refresh rates
of your monitor to xorg.conf. For further details on this you might want
to check out the following web page:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973


If you prefer a more straight ahead solution, you might want to try
downloading and installing the Kubuntu LiveCD ISO
(http://www.kubuntu.org/) .....it will allow you to choose a monitor and
graphics card models from a manufacturer/model list (as long as the make
and model are included in the list) and automatically add the horizontal
and vertical refresh rates to the xorg.conf file.

FWIW....the Matrox Millennium G400 card appears in Kubuntu's supported
video card list.

Post your monitor's make/model back here and I or someone else can
confirm whether or not it's in the Kubuntu monitor listing.


Tip for ya.......if you are making further enquiries, please provide as
much information about your system as you can. Not everyone knows what
a "G400" is (including me; I had to google to find the relevent
information).


>
> I thought that linux, specially UBUNTU, was a mature product that
> would create a useful PC "out of the box" without the need of an
> IT-expert.

Old saying about "don't believe everything you hear" and "nothing's
perfect" comes to mind. ;-)


>
> I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows - it works for people
> like me much more "straight forward"


There is a new version of the ubuntu flavours coming out at the end of
the month, if the present 8.04 version isn't quite to your liking, you
may want to check out the 8.10 release.


As an aside and FWIW, it would appear that the Ubuntu v8.10 beta doesn't
include manufacturer/model monitor and video card selection; maybe it
will be included in the final release.....but why it wasn't included in
previous versions is beyound my ken.....pretty basic stuff, IMHO.


> PS: I tried another PC with a "Radeon 9600" card - even worse - after
> restart the monitor informs me that the resolution is outside the
> range of the monitor (max 1280x1024)

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:03:43 +0200, "Jens"
wrote:

>Hi
>
>Beeing a novice I'm having difficulties getting a G400 to work in 1024x1280
>with Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop PC.
>
>I have installed the desktop version and the result is that I can choose
>between 400x300, 640x480 and 800x600
>
>I have searched google and found some advice trying a command like: "sudo
>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but the configuration never contains anything
>about the display properties, only something about keyboards!!!!!
>
>I have also tried to edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf but it contains no line
>with displ resolution or anything like it.
>
>I thought that linux, specially UBUNTU, was a mature product that would
>create a useful PC "out of the box" without the need of an IT-expert.
>
>I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows - it works for people like me
>much more "straight forward"
>
>Rgds
>Jens
>
>PS: I tried another PC with a "Radeon 9600" card - even worse - after
>restart the monitor informs me that the resolution is outside the range of
>the monitor (max 1280x1024)
>
>
Open a terminal window and type

gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.

A gui window will open and you can choose your video card and monitor.
I *think* your card is listed. If your particular monitor is not there
see if there is something close from the same manufacturer. I used a
17" LG monitor and its modelines worked for my 19" LG monitor. I also
chose a P650 Millenium card instead of a P750 and that worked too. I
now have all kinds of resolution choices. Might work for you too.

Roy





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Roy Strachan wrote in
news:ca48f4df53pkppffqteg908jqf3gpdfi95@4ax.com:

> gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.
>
>

Thanks for sending this info along, Roy. I wasn't aware of this program
existence or that it was already installed on my system. :-)


propman this proggie isn't offered as an option on any of the system menus)

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:47:46 +0000 (UTC), propman
wrote:

>Roy Strachan wrote in
>news:ca48f4df53pkppffqteg908jqf3gpdfi95@4ax.com:
>
>> gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks for sending this info along, Roy. I wasn't aware of this program
>existence or that it was already installed on my system. :-)
>
>
>propman >this proggie isn't offered as an option on any of the system menus)

Yeah, I just found out about it too. I've only had Ubuntu installed
on this system for a year; I guess that's not too long to figure out
how to set up the video card. )


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Roy Strachan wrote in
news:k65af4ltno5ecp0garhhnd80m4k4ulqtb7@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:47:46 +0000 (UTC), propman
> wrote:
>
>>Roy Strachan wrote in
>>news:ca48f4df53pkppffqteg908jqf3gpdfi95@4ax.com:
>>
>>> gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for sending this info along, Roy. I wasn't aware of this
>>program existence or that it was already installed on my system. :-)
>>
>>
>>propman >>heck this proggie isn't offered as an option on any of the system
>>menus)
>
> Yeah, I just found out about it too. I've only had Ubuntu installed
> on this system for a year; I guess that's not too long to figure out
> how to set up the video card. )
>

Heh! :-)

The weird thing is though, that Kubuntu does have it or a similar
proggie showing on a system menu right from the LiveCD install! If the
Ubuntu 8.10 beta is any indication, it doesn't look like they are going
to include it on the menus in the new release either. Beyond my ken,
that's for sure.

FWIW, I also feel the same way about "Prefered Applications", "Hardware
Drivers" and "Prefered Applications"!

Jens wrote:

> Hi
>
> Beeing a novice I'm having difficulties getting a G400 to work in
> 1024x1280 with Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop PC.
>
> I have installed the desktop version and the result is that I can choose
> between 400x300, 640x480 and 800x600
>
> I have searched google and found some advice trying a command like: "sudo
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but the configuration never contains
> anything about the display properties, only something about keyboards!!!!!
>
> I have also tried to edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf but it contains no line
> with displ resolution or anything like it.
>
> I thought that linux, specially UBUNTU, was a mature product that would
> create a useful PC "out of the box" without the need of an IT-expert.
>
> I'm shortly back to Mr. Gates and his Windows - it works for people like
> me much more "straight forward"
>
> Rgds
> Jens
>
> PS: I tried another PC with a "Radeon 9600" card - even worse - after
> restart the monitor informs me that the resolution is outside the range of
> the monitor (max 1280x1024)

Gawd, that card has been around for years and well supported by every Linux
distro I've ever used. What does a modes like look like
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? What driver is it using? Again, you'll see this in
xorg.conf

If you want to post your xorg.conf here, I'm sure it's easily fixable.


Cheers.

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On 14/10/08 15:47, propman wrote:
> Roy Strachan wrote in
> news:ca48f4df53pkppffqteg908jqf3gpdfi95@4ax.com:
>
>> gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for sending this info along, Roy. I wasn't aware of this program
> existence or that it was already installed on my system. :-)
>
>
> propman > this proggie isn't offered as an option on any of the system menus)

On Ubuntu 7.10 it is at

System > Administration > Screens and Graphics

If it isn't there, right-click on Applications and select Edit Menus.

James C wrote in
news:MjtJk.5796$sc2.1956@news-server.bigpond.net.au:

> On 14/10/08 15:47, propman wrote:
>> Roy Strachan wrote in
>> news:ca48f4df53pkppffqteg908jqf3gpdfi95@4ax.com:
>>
>>> gksu displayconfig-gtk - you might have to install it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for sending this info along, Roy. I wasn't aware of this
>> program existence or that it was already installed on my system. :-)
>>
>>
>> propman >> heck this proggie isn't offered as an option on any of the system
>> menus)
>
> On Ubuntu 7.10 it is at
>
> System > Administration > Screens and Graphics
>
> If it isn't there, right-click on Applications and select Edit Menus.
>

Hmmm....interesting. No "Screens and Graphics" in either area for
v8.04; guess they must have taken it out for hardy release; v8.04 has
Preference -> Screen Resolution which doesn't offer the Monitor/Graphics
card options like displayconfig-gtk or the Kubuntu v8.04. I've
installed the LiveCD v8.04 on several boxes now, so probably would have
noticed it before if it was just a case of not being installed properly
the one time.

Anyways, thanks for the headsup....much appreciated. :-)