where is my file?

Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the
download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install" (or
words to that effect) and now I can't find it! It would be useful (for me)
to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree' configuration, as seen in
Windows using Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
nothing.

Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and it
sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely nothing
to me).

The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out and
buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro, as Grub
really screwed me.

Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 -0400, Alan Illeman wrote:
[color=blue]
> Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the[/color]


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> Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the[color=blue]
> download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install" (or
> words to that effect) and now I can't find it! It would be useful (for me)
> to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree' configuration, as seen in
> Windows using Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
> nothing.[/color]

Bash is installed by default, why did you need to download it again?
Also, check out /var/lib/apt.
[color=blue]
> Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and it
> sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely nothing
> to me).[/color]

Use tar.
[color=blue]
> The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out and
> buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro, as Grub
> really screwed me.[/color]

With VMWare Player, you could run Win2k inside Linux. A Win2K license is
required.

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"Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:487ad5bc$0$90262$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...[color=blue][color=green]
> > Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the
> > download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install"[/color][/color]
(or[color=blue][color=green]
> > words to that effect) and now I can't find it! It would be useful (for[/color][/color]
me)[color=blue][color=green]
> > to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree' configuration, as[/color][/color]
seen in[color=blue][color=green]
> > Windows using Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
> > nothing.[/color]
>
> Bash is installed by default, why did you need to download it again?
> Also, check out /var/lib/apt.[/color]

Thanks for your reply but it was the instructional document i.e. "Bash-Doc"
that I wanted to read.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> > experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and[/color][/color]
it[color=blue][color=green]
> > sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely[/color][/color]
nothing[color=blue][color=green]
> > to me).[/color]
>
> Use tar.[/color]

It might seem simple to you but what exactly do I do to "use tar" as you put
it? Do I
need to open a terminal window? Please provide a simple command line. Having
un-tarred it (presumeably untarring is the same as uncompressing - correct
me if
I'm wrong) how do I install it?[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out[/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro, as[/color][/color]
Grub[color=blue][color=green]
> > really screwed me.[/color]
>
> With VMWare Player, you could run Win2k inside Linux. A Win2K license is
> required.[/color]

Yeah, yeah, yeah there's probably other solutions too, depending upon what
you
need and what your skills are..
[color=blue]
> --
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04) Linux 2.6.25.10
> ^ ^ 12:25:01 up 10 days 15:42 2 users load average: 1.00 1.03 1.00
> ºî ´© (CSSA):
> [url]http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/[/url][/color]

So communism is not working? What's new? HK was a ****hole when I visited
it in the late 50's - under the British mandate.

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.07.14.00.51.39.728753@moria2.lan...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 -0400, Alan Illeman wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the[/color]
>
>
> ___________________
> /| /| | |
> ||__|| | Please do |
> / O O\__ NOT |
> / \ feed the |
> / \ \ trolls |
> / _ \ \ ______________|
> / |\____\ \ ||
> / | | | |\____/ ||
> / \|_|_|/ \ __||
> / / \ |____| ||
> / | | /| | --|
> | | |// |____ --|
> * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
> *-- _--\ _ \ // |
> / _ \\ _ // | /
> * / \_ /- | - | |
> * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
>
>
>
> --
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
> The Usenet Improvement Project: [url]http://improve-usenet.org[/url][/color]

Thanks for nothing!

Alan Illeman <illemann@surfbest.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> Don't understand Bash so downloaded it[/color]

Downloaded what?
[color=blue]
> through Synaptic but just as the
> download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install" (or
> words to that effect) and now I can't find it![/color]

Maybe in /usr/share/doc/bash-doc ?
[color=blue]
> It would be useful (for me)
> to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree' configuration, as seen in
> Windows using Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
> nothing.[/color]

In a terminal, do:
sudo updatedb
locate bash-doc
[color=blue]
> Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and it
> sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely nothing
> to me).[/color]

Install using
sudo apt-get install thunderbird

To find out about .tar.gz, do:
file filename.tar.gz
[color=blue]
> The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out and
> buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro, as Grub
> really screwed me.[/color]
[color=blue]
> Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?[/color]

Hmmm, maybe you're really trolling?

--
Niklaus

"Niklaus Kuehnis" <kuehnik_0505@gmx-topmail.de> wrote in message
news:487b29f6$0$16178$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch...[color=blue]
> Alan Illeman <illemann@surfbest.net> wrote:[color=green]
> > Don't understand Bash so downloaded it[/color]
>
> Downloaded what?[/color]

A file called BASH-DOC
[color=blue][color=green]
> > through Synaptic but just as the
> > download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install"[/color][/color]
(or[color=blue][color=green]
> > words to that effect) and now I can't find it![/color]
>
> Maybe in /usr/share/doc/bash-doc ?[/color]

I'll give it a try..
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > It would be useful (for me)
> > to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree' configuration, as[/color][/color]
seen in[color=blue][color=green]
> > Windows using Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
> > nothing.[/color]
>
> In a terminal, do:
> sudo updatedb
> locate bash-doc[/color]

Thanks!
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> > experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and[/color][/color]
it[color=blue][color=green]
> > sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely[/color][/color]
nothing[color=blue][color=green]
> > to me).[/color]
>
> Install using
> sudo apt-get install thunderbird[/color]

Thanks!
[color=blue]
>
> To find out about .tar.gz, do:
> file filename.tar.gz[/color]

"file filename.tar.gz" didn't do anything for me. Please explain.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out[/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro, as[/color][/color]
Grub[color=blue][color=green]
> > really screwed me.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?[/color]
>
> Hmmm, maybe you're really trolling?[/color]

I've been using Windows for eons - it's the one constant in my life. Linux
is very
new to me. "bash-doc" sounds like documentation, wouldn't you agree? All I
want
to do is to READ THE DOCUMENTATION so as the understand the commands.
If that same documentation is readable in Windows, I'm one step closer to
achieving this goal


Thanks anyway.
[color=blue]
> --
> Niklaus[/color]

Alan Illeman <illemann@surfbest.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> "Niklaus Kuehnis" <kuehnik_0505@gmx-topmail.de> wrote in message[color=green]
> >
> > To find out about .tar.gz, do:
> > file filename.tar.gz[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> "file filename.tar.gz" didn't do anything for me. Please explain.[/color]

OK. A bit too complicated, maybe. ".tar.gz" is a tar archive,
compressed with gzip.

If you are in the directory where a file called somefile.tar.gz lies,
the command "file somefile.tar.gz" will tell you what kind of file it
is.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?[/color]
> >
> > Hmmm, maybe you're really trolling?[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> I've been using Windows for eons - it's the one constant in my
> life. Linux is very new to me. "bash-doc" sounds like
> documentation, wouldn't you agree? All I want to do is to READ THE
> DOCUMENTATION so as the understand the commands. If that same
> documentation is readable in Windows, I'm one step closer to
> achieving this goal.[/color]

"Running" an Ubuntu package in Windows is an odd idea. No offense.

bash-doc puts a bashref.pdf into /usr/share/doc/bash . Probably too
complicated and comprehensive for a beginner.

/usr/share/doc/bash/README.commands.gz might be a good
starting-point.

You might also check out this one (also available as PDF):
[url]http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html[/url]

HTH,
Niklaus

> Thanks for your reply but it was the instructional document i.e. "Bash-Doc"[color=blue]
> that I wanted to read.[/color]

You could google "linux bash tutorial", "linux bash guide", ... lots of
information. I myself have never read "bash-doc". :)
[color=blue]
> It might seem simple to you but what exactly do I do to "use tar" as you put
> it? Do I need to open a terminal window? Please provide a simple command line. Having[/color]

The typical method is:

mkdir ~/temp
cd ~/temp
tar xzvf /path/to/bash-doc.tar.gz

Now the stuff from the decompressed tar is in ~/temp, where ~ is your
home directory.

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King Dan, you better stop driving away new customers....

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:[color=blue]
> King Dan, you better stop driving away new customers....
>[/color]

You are not working for Micro$oft and pretend to be a linux monk here,
are you?

--
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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04) Linux 2.6.26
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Alan Illeman wrote:[color=blue]
> Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but
> just as the download was being completed saw "program will be
> cached for install" (or words to that effect) and now I can't
> find it! It would be useful (for me) to be able to see the file
> directories in a 'tree' configuration, as seen in Windows using
> Explorer! The original was BASH-DOC but searches reveal
> nothing.
>
> Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a
> bad experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded
> Thunderbird and it sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ"
> extension which means absolutely nothing to me).
>
> The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to
> rush out and buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for
> Windows 2000 Pro, as Grub really screwed me.
>
> Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?[/color]

The appearance of Linux can be deceptively close to the
appearance of Windows, but it is very different under the covers
and fairly different in the user interfaces too.

One immediate thing you need to know is that file names are
case-sensitive in Linux. "BASH-DOC" and "bash-doc" are two
different names, not the same at all.

You can get information about bash by typing "man bash" or "info
bash" on a command line. To get a command line in Ubuntu Linux,
click Applications / Accessories / Terminal.

However, what you really need at this point, more than anything
else, is a good book on Linux. There are lots of them. They are
usually pretty cheap. You can get one in most any store that
sells computer books, or online from Amazon, or possibly at your
local public library - though you'd be better off buying a new
one if the ones at the library are more than a couple of years
old.

You can even get free Linux books. Google for:

free downloadable linux books

There are lots of them. See for example:

[url]http://www.linux-books.us/ubuntu_0002.php[/url]

Using a new, unfamiliar OS is always difficult. If you persist,
learn a little more each day, and keep using it, you will find
Linux can do pretty much everything that Windows can, and is not
really any harder to learn or use. It's just that you learned
Windows so long ago and over such a long period, that you've
forgotten how much time it took you to get to the level of skill
with Windows that you have now.

Alan

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 -0400, Alan Illeman wrote:
[color=blue]
> Don't understand Bash so downloaded it through Synaptic but just as the
> download was being completed saw "program will be cached for install"
> (or words to that effect) and now I can't find it![/color]

Select the package in synaptic and the click the "Properties" button.
Under the "Installed Files" tab you will see the name and location of all
files installed by the package.
[color=blue]
> It would be useful
> (for me) to be able to see the file directories in a 'tree'
> configuration, as seen in Windows using Explorer![/color]

Open you file manager by clicking on using you top menubar.
Choose "Places:Computer"

"nautilus" is what you would call the ubuntu version of explorer.
Now you can point and click through your filesystem like on windows.
Wow, amazing.
[color=blue]
> The original was
> BASH-DOC but searches reveal nothing.[/color]

"bash" is a command, so if you open a terminal and type "bash"
it will run.

"bash-doc" Contains documentation and examples for bash.
[color=blue]
> Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and
> it sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely
> nothing to me).[/color]

Figure out what bash is and more about your system before you play with
grub.
[color=blue]
> The only good thing to come out of all this, is that I had to rush out
> and buy another computer, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows 2000 Pro,
> as Grub really screwed me.[/color]

Buying another computer will not make you smarter.
[color=blue]
>
> Will [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bash-doc[/url] run in Windows?[/color]

bash-doc is a collection of documentation files and sample bash
scripts/examples. You don't run "bash-doc", you read it. I don't know
if you can find a bash-doc package for windows. You can copy the files
from your ubuntu filesystem to a save_location (flash-drive, windows
partition, floppy, etc.) Then move the save_location to your windows box.

cp -a /usr/share/doc/bash /usr/share/doc/bash-doc save_location



stonerfish

On 2008-07-14, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> Thanks for your reply but it was the instructional document i.e. "Bash-Doc"
>> that I wanted to read.[/color]
>
> You could google "linux bash tutorial", "linux bash guide", ... lots of
> information. I myself have never read "bash-doc". :)[/color]

I would also recommend that. And I recommend asking in an appropriate
news group for recommendations on a good tutorial on bash (and, perhaps,
UNIX) for someone new to shells and UNIX/Linux - comp.unix.shell might
be a good place to ask. (You could try asking here, too, but I suspect
the unix shell group will give better results.)

You want to find a tutorial aimed at the beginner, rather than someone
already familiar with shells.

--

On 2008-07-14, Alan Illeman hit the keyboard and wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
>
> Thanks for nothing![/color]

The above dude is one of the few "Gnu/Linux" users residing in my
"kill-file" and if you hadn't quoted him, I wouldn't have seen his
garbage. Don't know if your sorry excuse for a news-reader is
able to kill-file posters you don't want to see. Of not just ignore
him.

So now to my help: If you search for something on google you
may try fe. "Linux bash documentation" *with* the quote:

"http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Linux+Bash+documentation%22&btnG=Google+Search"

It will limit the output of your searches, sometimes it will
not find anything and you will have to use other term. I
know searching on the web can be a PIA :-)



[color=blue]
>
>[/color]


Dragomir Kollaric
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freely distributed as long as a copy of the GPL is included... :-)

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 -0400, Alan Illeman wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Besides 'BASH-DOC' I selected 'GRUB-DOC' (as I've already had a bad
> experience with Grub), and TAR-DOC (as I've downloaded Thunderbird and
> it sits on my desktop with a ".TAR.GZ" extension which means absolutely
> nothing to me).[/color]

Where did you get Thunderbird from? If you install it through Synaptic,
it will be correctly installed and ready to go.

But if you are absolutely set on installing Thunderbird from the .tar.gz
archive: right-click on it, and select to open it with "Archive Manager".
Extract it to your Desktop, then have a look in the folder that appears.
There will likely be a README or INSTALL file that will explain how to
install it. But this will probably be too involved for you. Installing
via Synaptic is the way to go.