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  1. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:56:47 -0400, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

    > The ´Ubuntu Equals Linuxˇ Paradox
    >
    > ,----[ Quote ]
    >| Now, the reason that new users are using Linux is in part to the fact that
    >| Ubuntu users, or LoCo teams, are actively spreading Linux to new users.
    >| Notice that there are no other distributions that are spreading Linux like
    >| Ubuntu. Thousands of volunteers (in the U.S. alone) work to spread Ubuntu
    >| Linux to the masses. My little CD stand has already distributed close to 500
    >| CDs. Now that˙s what I call progress!
    > `----
    >
    > http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/...linux-paradox/
    >
    > Almost 500 CDs and no more than a single download. Go ahead and try counting
    > installations
    >
    >
    > Related:
    >
    > There's more to Linux than Ubuntu
    >
    > ,----[ Quote ]
    >| I already said that it scares me. It scares me that I am in no power to
    >| change the state of affairs. It scares me because competition between
    >| distribution benefits them all, perfecting the tools, causing applications to
    >| be developed, economies and companies created, communities united. Without
    >| all this, Linux would stop being the "way of the l337", and the title "cool"
    >| and talent may move to other directions. So I hope it's not too late. I hope
    >| there's still time to differentiate. To explain to all that Linux is what
    >| matters, not the specific distribution, no matter how good and successful it
    >| may be. Hell, I may even use Ubuntu for different purposes, but I will use
    >| others as well (Gentoo for example, but also Fedora Core/CentOS and others),
    >| and remember the most important thing. * * * * *
    >|
    >| There's much more to Linux than just Ubuntu.
    > `----
    >
    > http://www.thetechandcents.com/2007/...an-ubuntu.html
    >
    >
    > Divining from the Entrails of Ubuntu's Gutsy Gibbon
    >
    > ,----[ Quote ]
    >| According to the 2007 DesktopLinux.com survey, Ubuntu is the distribution of
    >| choice for 30% of GNU/Linux users. The exact figure is questionable, but
    >| Ubuntu's dominance is not. For an increasing number of people, Ubuntu is
    >| GNU/Linux. Yet, looking at the pre-releases of Gutsy Gibbon, Ubuntu 7.10, I
    >| found myself becoming disturbed by the degree to which this popularity has
    >| translated into uncritical acceptance. * *
    > `----
    >
    > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/ent...le.php/3700666
    >
    >
    > Ubuntu's Hype is Misleading (Real Test)
    >
    > ,----[ Quote ]
    >| I'm running a computer institute and I have new, middle and advanced users.
    >| People who know Linux very well and those who don't even know "L" of Linux.
    >| Recently, I've been trying different distros. Trying a distro is always based
    >| on the reviews I read on the web. Most of the reviews are based on the
    >| stability and performance but none of them I found which is meant for a
    >| normal user who is a new user in the Linux world. This time I thought, lets
    >| do it practically, give different distros to my people in the Institute and
    >| get their opinion. For this I chose Ubuntu, PCLOS 2007,Dreamlinux, and
    >| Mandriva One.
    > `----
    >
    > http://mag.mypclinuxos.com/html/Issu...09/page02.html


    Just like Redhat was for years.

    Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned it.

    Ubuntu will discover the same thing.


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    Moshe Goldfarb
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  2. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:43:02 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

    >
    > Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned it.


    You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am sure
    they will be surprised.

    >
    > Ubuntu will discover the same thing.



    --
    Rick

  3. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    Rick wrote:
    > Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >
    >> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they
    >> abandoned it.

    >
    > You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop.
    > I am sure they will be surprised.


    FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.

    --
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    [page]:
    Try the download section.



  4. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:

    > Rick wrote:
    >> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>
    >>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they
    >>> abandoned it.

    >>
    >> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop.
    >> I am sure they will be surprised.

    >
    > FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.


    http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1

    Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah..
    He knows full well I am speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by
    far, because this has been discussed over and over again 100 times.

    Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.

    --
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    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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  5. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned
    >>>> it.
    >>>
    >>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>> sure they will be surprised.

    >>
    >> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.

    >
    > http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >
    > Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    > speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    > has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >
    > Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.


    If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.

    --
    Rick

  6. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux toSome

    "Rick" stated in post
    oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:

    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned
    >>>>> it.
    >>>>
    >>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>
    >>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.

    >>
    >> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>
    >> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>
    >> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.

    >
    > If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.


    It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.


    --
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    nothing. - Unknown


  7. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:53 -0700, Snit wrote:

    > "Rick" stated in post
    > oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:
    >
    >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned
    >>>>>> it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>>
    >>>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>>
    >>> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >>> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >>> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>>
    >>> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.

    >>
    >> If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.

    >
    > It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.


    You beat me to it.

    Rick knows exactly what I meant.
    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  8. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux toSome

    "Moshe Goldfarb." stated in post
    128c4x87158wm.1ibn8svxi5e2w$.dlg@40tude.net on 7/9/08 7:34 AM:

    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned
    >>>>>>> it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>>>
    >>>> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >>>> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >>>> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>>>
    >>>> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.
    >>>
    >>> If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.

    >>
    >> It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.

    >
    > You beat me to it.
    >
    > Rick knows exactly what I meant.


    Rick feigns ignorance a lot. Weird trolling tactic of his.


    --
    Never stand between a dog and the hydrant. - John Peers


  9. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:34:32 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they
    >>>>>>> abandoned it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I
    >>>>>> am sure they will be surprised.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>>>
    >>>> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >>>> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >>>> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>>>
    >>>> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his
    >>>> skull.
    >>>
    >>> If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.

    >>
    >> It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.

    >
    > You beat me to it.
    >
    > Rick knows exactly what I meant.


    If you mean consumer desktop, then say consumer desktop. And, BTW, anyone
    can get RHEL, even "consumers".



    --
    Rick

  10. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    Snit, ye saucy king of smiles, thy will is most malignant, ye meandered:

    > "Moshe Goldfarb." stated in post
    > 128c4x87158wm.1ibn8svxi5e2w$.dlg@40tude.net on 7/9/08 7:34 AM:
    >
    >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>> oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they
    >>>>>>>> abandoned
    >>>>>>>> it.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>>>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >>>>> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >>>>> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.
    >>>>
    >>>> If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.
    >>>
    >>> It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.

    >>
    >> You beat me to it.
    >>
    >> Rick knows exactly what I meant.

    >
    > Rick feigns ignorance a lot. Weird trolling tactic of his.



    You give him too much credit. From my past dealings with the nutjob, it's
    patently obvious that there's a mind-spinning tsunami of glazed-eyes
    bewilderment taking place in the split second between the recognition
    stimuli and response.

    He sees the words, and in the time it takes to SNAP! your fingers, he's
    forgotten who the **** he is.

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  11. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:09:02 -1200, Kadaitcha Man wrote:

    > Snit, ye saucy king of smiles, thy will is most malignant, ye meandered:
    >
    >> "Moshe Goldfarb." stated in post
    >> 128c4x87158wm.1ibn8svxi5e2w$.dlg@40tude.net on 7/9/08 7:34 AM:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>> oO-dnZzD0eXDhenVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/8/08 6:46 PM:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they
    >>>>>>>>> abandoned
    >>>>>>>>> it.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>>>>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >>>>>> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >>>>>> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.
    >>>>
    >>>> It you don't mean "better for the user" then don't say it.
    >>>
    >>> You beat me to it.
    >>>
    >>> Rick knows exactly what I meant.

    >>
    >> Rick feigns ignorance a lot. Weird trolling tactic of his.

    >
    >
    > You give him too much credit. From my past dealings with the nutjob, it's
    > patently obvious that there's a mind-spinning tsunami of glazed-eyes
    > bewilderment taking place in the split second between the recognition
    > stimuli and response.
    >
    > He sees the words, and in the time it takes to SNAP! your fingers, he's
    > forgotten who the **** he is.


    Excellent description of Rick!

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  12. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux to Some

    On 2008-07-09, Rick wrote:
    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:37:04 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:31 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Redhat discovered that desktop Linux has no market so they abandoned
    >>>>> it.
    >>>>
    >>>> You might want to tell Red Hat they have abandoned the desktop. I am
    >>>> sure they will be surprised.
    >>>
    >>> FYI Goldfarb is a notorious troll, best plonked.

    >>
    >> http://www.techvideonews.com/view_ne...nlid=92251&p=1
    >>
    >> Rick is playing word games like Jebbediah.. He knows full well I am
    >> speaking of consumer desktop, the largest market by far, because this
    >> has been discussed over and over again 100 times.
    >>
    >> Rick doesn't seem to be able to absorb any information into his skull.

    >
    > If you mean consumer desktop, say consumer desktop.


    ....it's the same thing. The only reason that Redhat even exists as a
    going concern is that they didn't used to make this distinction. Oddly
    enough, the same things that a corporate or server desktop user needs
    are much the same as the "consumer desktop" user. Visibility in the
    consumer space also grows mindshare.

    Server Linux marketshare was built from the bottom. Redhat can't
    be dumb enough to not realize this.

    This means that what is being run in companies where you are likely
    to see employees running Linux is stuff like Mepis and Ubuntu.

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  13. Re: [News] Ubuntu Becomes Synonymous with Desktop GNU/Linux toSome

    "Moshe Goldfarb." stated in post
    16esu5x0bh2yw$.akj6a95ko3ze.dlg@40tude.net on 7/9/08 8:18 AM:

    >>> Rick feigns ignorance a lot. Weird trolling tactic of his.

    >>
    >>
    >> You give him too much credit. From my past dealings with the nutjob, it's
    >> patently obvious that there's a mind-spinning tsunami of glazed-eyes
    >> bewilderment taking place in the split second between the recognition
    >> stimuli and response.
    >>
    >> He sees the words, and in the time it takes to SNAP! your fingers, he's
    >> forgotten who the **** he is.

    >
    > Excellent description of Rick!


    No argument here!


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    Never stand between a dog and the hydrant. - John Peers


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