On 2008-06-02, Lee A. Wentzel wrote:
> Sort of a strange question. I have two laptops. My older laptop has a
> much larger hard drive then my newer one. I would like to put my bigger
> hard drive in the faster newer laptop. (Replacing it's drive
> completely.) I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed on the drive. Both computers
> are very different. The old one is a Compaq Prosignia, my newer one is a
> Dell. So with all that being said...
>
> Can I just swap them out. Will Linux be smart enough to know there is
> different hardware, recognize it, save the changes and move on... or will
> it choke like it would with Windows? (Not bashing Windows, just know
> that the registry has everything set, and would likely not even boot up.)
>
> Or is the best bet, doing a complete reload after installing the larger
> drive in the faster system? Thanks for your help with this matter.

I did this before and it worked fine for me.

It does not mean that it will work fine for you, but it is worth a
try.

Some things may need to be re-setup, like your modem settings or maybe
wifi settings.

But Linux has been designed for the exact thing that you want to do.

Save a backup of your data, obviously.
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On 2008-06-02, Ignoramus27711 wrote:
> On 2008-06-02, Lee A. Wentzel wrote:
>> Sort of a strange question. I have two laptops. My older laptop has a
>> much larger hard drive then my newer one. I would like to put my bigger
>> hard drive in the faster newer laptop. (Replacing it's drive
>> completely.) I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed on the drive. Both computers
>> are very different. The old one is a Compaq Prosignia, my newer one is a
>> Dell. So with all that being said...
>>
>> Can I just swap them out. Will Linux be smart enough to know there is
>> different hardware, recognize it, save the changes and move on... or will
>> it choke like it would with Windows? (Not bashing Windows, just know
>> that the registry has everything set, and would likely not even boot up.)
>>
>> Or is the best bet, doing a complete reload after installing the larger
>> drive in the faster system? Thanks for your help with this matter.
>
> I did this before and it worked fine for me.
>
> It does not mean that it will work fine for you, but it is worth a
> try.
>
> Some things may need to be re-setup, like your modem settings or maybe
> wifi settings.
>
> But Linux has been designed for the exact thing that you want to do.
>
> Save a backup of your data, obviously.

Also check your fstab settings to see if there is anything stupid.

You can post your /etc/fstab here.

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Lee A. Wentzel wrote:
> I have two laptops.

LTs don't always swap things well.

> My older laptop has a
> much larger hard drive then my newer one.

How old is old and how new is new? New LTs are SATA, old are IDE.

> Or is the best bet, doing a complete reload after installing the larger
> drive in the faster system?

I would approach this problem from the perspective of hardware
identification on both systems.

If the hardware were compatible, I'm pretty sure I would prefer to
reinstall, but maybe that is because I'm lazy and it seems so easy that
way.

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Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
head icon to show next to your From in the header?

Cheers

On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:

>
>
> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>
> Cheers

Tip: Google x-face

David
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Lee A. Wentzel wrote:
>...
>
> Can I just swap them out. Will Linux be smart enough to know there is
> different hardware, recognize it, save the changes and move on...

You might be surprised.
My sisters 2K box got rooted so I went over to reinstall. Grabbed an old
HDD out of the drawer with the intention of slaving it and dragging off
all her stuff before reinstalling.
Plugged in the drive, fired it up and it booted to Linux!
This HDD had last seen service in an old PII box (Elsa video?) that I
was tinkering with Edgy on.
Still, it managed to figure out how to boot on a P4 with on board Intel
graphics.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu passed an empty day
by writing:

> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>
>>
>>
>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
>> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Tip: Google x-face
>
> David

Cool! - if I could figure how to get it into Evolution I would be cooking
on gas!

Coffeeman wrote:
User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)

> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
> head icon to show next to your From in the header?

Your Pan supports X-Face display which is why you can see it in those
posts which have such a header.

I think that you can add one of your own in your Pan by editing your
posting profile in Pan's 'extra headers'.

I see in Pan 0.126 Edit menu/ Edit posting profiles/ (select your profile)
edit/ Optional information section - Extra headers: (edit)

I think you could put a X-Face: with values in there and you would get
one, but I haven't tried it, and searching shows me old commentary which
sez that Pan doesn't. That's also what the wikipedia sez, but the
wikipedia is good when it is right and 'bad'/misleading when it is wrong.


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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:25:55 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

> Coffeeman wrote:
> User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)
>
>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
>> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>
> Your Pan supports X-Face display which is why you can see it in those
> posts which have such a header.
>
> I think that you can add one of your own in your Pan by editing your
> posting profile in Pan's 'extra headers'.
>
> I see in Pan 0.126 Edit menu/ Edit posting profiles/ (select your
> profile) edit/ Optional information section - Extra headers: (edit)
>
> I think you could put a X-Face: with values in there and you would get
> one, but I haven't tried it, and searching shows me old commentary which
> sez that Pan doesn't. That's also what the wikipedia sez, but the
> wikipedia is good when it is right and 'bad'/misleading when it is
> wrong.

I used an X-face generator at: http://www.dairiki.org/xface/xface.php

Seems to work pretty good. Had a couple of failures because the
generator makes 2 lines of the code, and PAN won't handle the break. It
worked when I backed the space out.

The version of Pan in the repositories--0.132 has a place for extra
headers in Edit | edit posting profiles | edit | extra headers. Don't
know about the stable version of Pan everyone seems to be using except
moi.

Thanks to Baldylocks for pointing me in the right direction.

Cheers

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:

> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>
>>
>>
>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
>> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Tip: Google x-face
>
> David

Did it. Thank you.

How do you like Knode vs Pan? I'm an ex-Agent user.

Cheers

On Monday 02 Jun 2008 21:09 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:

> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:
>
>> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
>>> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>
>> Tip: Google x-face
>>
>> David
>
> Did it. Thank you.
>
> How do you like Knode vs Pan? I'm an ex-Agent user.
>
> Cheers

Only ever really used knode in anger, it was OE before that lol. I came to
Linux just over a year ago, tried blunderbird as it was the first one that
came to mind when I started in Gnome - hated it with a passion, then found
that I could add knode to kontact.

I like kontact as a container for mail, calendar, rss, contacts, news etc
and find knode does everything I require of a news reader (except offline,
but I am going to be looking at leafnode again soon for that) and does it
quickly and simply.

I am a KDE user in case you hadn't guessed btw

David
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On Monday 02 Jun 2008 21:04 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:

> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:25:55 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> Coffeeman wrote:
>> User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)
>>
>>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little devil's
>>> head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>
>> Your Pan supports X-Face display which is why you can see it in those
>> posts which have such a header.
>>
>> I think that you can add one of your own in your Pan by editing your
>> posting profile in Pan's 'extra headers'.
>>
>> I see in Pan 0.126 Edit menu/ Edit posting profiles/ (select your
>> profile) edit/ Optional information section - Extra headers: (edit)
>>
>> I think you could put a X-Face: with values in there and you would get
>> one, but I haven't tried it, and searching shows me old commentary which
>> sez that Pan doesn't. That's also what the wikipedia sez, but the
>> wikipedia is good when it is right and 'bad'/misleading when it is
>> wrong.
>
> I used an X-face generator at: http://www.dairiki.org/xface/xface.php
>
> Seems to work pretty good. Had a couple of failures because the
> generator makes 2 lines of the code, and PAN won't handle the break. It
> worked when I backed the space out.
>
> The version of Pan in the repositories--0.132 has a place for extra
> headers in Edit | edit posting profiles | edit | extra headers. Don't
> know about the stable version of Pan everyone seems to be using except
> moi.
>
> Thanks to Baldylocks for pointing me in the right direction.
>
> Cheers

Heh, glad to be of some small assistance, about time I was able to start
putting something back into the group, albeit not much yet

David
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:36:56 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:

> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 21:09 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little
>>>> devil's head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tip: Google x-face
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> Did it. Thank you.
>>
>> How do you like Knode vs Pan? I'm an ex-Agent user.
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Only ever really used knode in anger, it was OE before that lol. I came
> to Linux just over a year ago, tried blunderbird as it was the first one
> that came to mind when I started in Gnome - hated it with a passion,
> then found that I could add knode to kontact.
>
> I like kontact as a container for mail, calendar, rss, contacts, news
> etc and find knode does everything I require of a news reader (except
> offline, but I am going to be looking at leafnode again soon for that)
> and does it quickly and simply.
>
> I am a KDE user in case you hadn't guessed btw
>
> David

I suspected you were KDE. I'm Gnome by default because it seems more
minimal than KDE. Tried Xubuntu, but it was a bit too simple. KDE loads
K-everything, and it seems a bit heavy on eye candy, though I've found
some of it necessary such as the k3b burner.

I loved Agent newsreader,and Gimp isn't Photoshop. But had to ditch them
when I made the decision to shun Vista, The cost for upgrading all the
software from XP to Vista more than equaled a new system!

I pretty much got pushed into Linux about a year or so ago with the A+,
Network+ and Linux+ coursework. I tried the top dozen distributions on
distrowatch and settled on Ubuntu--so Gnome.

I've been aching to try the new KDE 4, and just torrented down the DVD. I
use Google/ig to package everything up sort of like you use Kontact, but
it's good to know about Kontact as a container for all that.

Cheers

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:15:17 -0700, Coffeeman
wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:36:56 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:
>
>> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 21:09 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000, Baldylocks-Ubuntu wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday 02 Jun 2008 17:43 Coffeeman licked a pencil and jotted:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Off topic for this post, I know. But how do you get that little
>>>>> devil's head icon to show next to your From in the header?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Tip: Google x-face
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>
>>> Did it. Thank you.
>>>
>>> How do you like Knode vs Pan? I'm an ex-Agent user.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>
>> Only ever really used knode in anger, it was OE before that lol. I came
>> to Linux just over a year ago, tried blunderbird as it was the first one
>> that came to mind when I started in Gnome - hated it with a passion,
>> then found that I could add knode to kontact.
>>
>> I like kontact as a container for mail, calendar, rss, contacts, news
>> etc and find knode does everything I require of a news reader (except
>> offline, but I am going to be looking at leafnode again soon for that)
>> and does it quickly and simply.
>>
>> I am a KDE user in case you hadn't guessed btw
>>
>> David
>
> I suspected you were KDE. I'm Gnome by default because it seems more
> minimal than KDE. Tried Xubuntu, but it was a bit too simple. KDE loads
> K-everything, and it seems a bit heavy on eye candy, though I've found
> some of it necessary such as the k3b burner.
>
> I loved Agent newsreader,and Gimp isn't Photoshop. But had to ditch them
> when I made the decision to shun Vista, The cost for upgrading all the
> software from XP to Vista more than equaled a new system!
>
> I pretty much got pushed into Linux about a year or so ago with the A+,
> Network+ and Linux+ coursework. I tried the top dozen distributions on
> distrowatch and settled on Ubuntu--so Gnome.
>
> I've been aching to try the new KDE 4, and just torrented down the DVD. I
> use Google/ig to package everything up sort of like you use Kontact, but
> it's good to know about Kontact as a container for all that.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>

Have you checked out WINE for running your Win32 programs yet? It has
been getting better at running some of the mainstream programs.
You can check out the program's status at http://appdb.winehq.org

Also, KDE 4 wasn't quite ready the last time I saw it (It was on the
Kubuntu_8.04_KDE4-remix CD). It will be a very cool DE when it matures
though.


~Jon

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:51:46 -0700, Lee A. Wentzel
wrote:

> Sort of a strange question. I have two laptops. My older laptop has a
> much larger hard drive then my newer one. I would like to put my bigger
> hard drive in the faster newer laptop. (Replacing it's drive
> completely.) I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed on the drive. Both computers
> are very different. The old one is a Compaq Prosignia, my newer one is a
> Dell. So with all that being said...
>
> Can I just swap them out. Will Linux be smart enough to know there is
> different hardware, recognize it, save the changes and move on... or will
> it choke like it would with Windows? (Not bashing Windows, just know
> that the registry has everything set, and would likely not even boot up.)
>
> Or is the best bet, doing a complete reload after installing the larger
> drive in the faster system? Thanks for your help with this matter.
>
> Lee


It should work. I was able to install 8.04 through a Via Pico-ITX
motherboard and transfer it over to an IBM X20 series laptop with only
having to reconfigure xserver's driver (sudo dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xorg) and install the laptop packages. 7.10 is much more
forgiving for swappage such as this though.

As long as they are both SATA or the old PATA (IDE) style, it should work.

If worse comes to worse, just put it back in the original laptop.

On 2008-06-02, Lee A. Wentzel wrote:
> Sort of a strange question. I have two laptops. My older laptop has a
> much larger hard drive then my newer one. I would like to put my bigger
> hard drive in the faster newer laptop. (Replacing it's drive
> completely.) I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed on the drive. Both computers
> are very different. The old one is a Compaq Prosignia, my newer one is a
> Dell. So with all that being said...
>
> Can I just swap them out. Will Linux be smart enough to know there is
> different hardware, recognize it, save the changes and move on... or will
> it choke like it would with Windows? (Not bashing Windows, just know
> that the registry has everything set, and would likely not even boot up.)
>
> Or is the best bet, doing a complete reload after installing the larger
> drive in the faster system? Thanks for your help with this matter.

I've done this on desktop machines with success before. Amazing.

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