On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>
> Josef

try linux-source package

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Josef Moellers schreef:
> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>
> Josef

HAve a look at build-essential.

This package contains an informational list of packages which are
considered essential for building Debian packages. This package also
depends on the packages on that list, to make it easy to have the
build-essential packages installed.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:32:03 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?

http://www.kernel.org


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> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.

# Notes I am keeping:

sudo aptitude install gcc make kernel-package libncurses5-dev
module-init-tools initrd-tools build-essential
sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6
cd /usr/src
sudo tar xfj linux-source-2.6.xx.tar.bz2
cd linux-source-2.6.xx
sudo make menuconfig
sudo make-kpkg --initrd linux-image
sudo dpkg -i ../linux-image-2.6.xx-xx.deb

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On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>
The troll is here by the looks of it.

Dan C wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:32:03 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
>
>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>
> http://www.kernel.org

Not quite. That's the original, Linus-released source code.
I was looking for the Ubuntu kernel sources.

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Ignoramus21037 wrote:
> On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>
>> Josef
>
> try linux-source package

I did. The linux-source-2.6.22.tar.gz that it installed does not contain
the ubuntu/ subdirectory that my 2.6.20.tar.gz had. The uvc-stuff is in
there.

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Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> Josef Moellers schreef:
>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code
>> into the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>
>> Josef
>
> HAve a look at build-essential.
>
> This package contains an informational list of packages which are
> considered essential for building Debian packages. This package also
> depends on the packages on that list, to make it easy to have the
> build-essential packages installed.

It's installed, yet ... only a linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2 without the
ubuntu/ subdir.

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>
> # Notes I am keeping:
>
> sudo aptitude install gcc make kernel-package libncurses5-dev
> module-init-tools initrd-tools build-essential
> sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6
> cd /usr/src
> sudo tar xfj linux-source-2.6.xx.tar.bz2
> cd linux-source-2.6.xx
> sudo make menuconfig
> sudo make-kpkg --initrd linux-image
> sudo dpkg -i ../linux-image-2.6.xx-xx.deb
>

If you have installed the sources, could you check whether you have the
ubuntu/ subdirectory? If so, I wonder where it comes from.

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Gordon wrote:
> On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>
> The troll is here by the looks of it.

What makes you think that?
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> If you have installed the sources, could you check whether you have the
> ubuntu/ subdirectory? If so, I wonder where it comes from.

you could `dpkg -L linux-source-2.6` to list
the content of any installed package.

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On 2008-05-16, Josef Moellers wrote:
> Ignoramus21037 wrote:
>> On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>>
>>> Josef
>>
>> try linux-source package
>
> I did. The linux-source-2.6.22.tar.gz that it installed does not contain
> the ubuntu/ subdirectory that my 2.6.20.tar.gz had. The uvc-stuff is in
> there.
>

What are you actually trying to accomplish?

Could it be that your digital camera could be made to work by some
simplier means?

Usually the solution is to find out the driver and say

sudo modprobe driver

for example

sudo modprobe uvcvideo

or some such.
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Ignoramus620 wrote:
> On 2008-05-16, Josef Moellers wrote:
>> Ignoramus21037 wrote:
>>> On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>>>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>>>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>>>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>>>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>>>
>>>> Josef
>>> try linux-source package
>> I did. The linux-source-2.6.22.tar.gz that it installed does not contain
>> the ubuntu/ subdirectory that my 2.6.20.tar.gz had. The uvc-stuff is in
>> there.
>>
>
> What are you actually trying to accomplish?

I bought the camera after checking its compatibility with my notebook at
work (Kubuntu 7.10). When I returned home, it didn't work there (Kubuntu
7.04), so I suspect a difference in the kernel driver modules uvcvideo.ko.
At home, I have the kernel sources of the 2.6.20 kernel and they include
a subdirectory "ubuntu/" (with further subdirectories "media/usbvideo").
I then tried to find the source code for the 2.6.22 kernel as used in
Kubuntu 7.10, but the package I downloaded didn't contain the ubuntu
subdirectory, while the installation does have a
/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/ subdirectory!

I was hoping to find some difference between the 2.6.20 and 2.6.22
kernel sources that might explain why 7.10 can handle my camera while
7.04 cannot, and patch the 7.04 kernel sources such that it handles my
camera.

(At a more general level: Occasionally I'd like to be able to skim
through the kernel sources to find out how things work and at work we
support Novell/SuSE and Red Hat and both provide the kernel sources.
Having used these systems for some time, I'm not yet fully familiar with
Debian/Ubuntu and I still have difficulties finding sources)

> Could it be that your digital camera could be made to work by some
> simplier means?
>
> Usually the solution is to find out the driver and say
>
> sudo modprobe driver
>
> for example
>
> sudo modprobe uvcvideo
>
> or some such.

Yet, on 7.04 the error message I then get is something in the line of
"format or frame index out of range".
I tried by simply setting the indices to 1 and this allowed me to use my
camera, but this is not what I want.

So I'm looking for the source code of the 7.10 uvcvideo.ko driver.

In the mean time, I have found an svn repository on berlios, so maybe
that will help.

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
>> If you have installed the sources, could you check whether you have the
>> ubuntu/ subdirectory? If so, I wonder where it comes from.
>
> you could `dpkg -L linux-source-2.6` to list
> the content of any installed package.

root@bounty:~# dpkg -L linux-source-2.6.22
/.
/usr
/usr/src
/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/linux-source-2.6.22
/usr/share/doc/linux-source-2.6.22/copyright
/usr/share/doc/linux-source-2.6.22/changelog.Debian.gz
root@bounty:~# tar tvjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2 |
fgrep ubuntu
root@bounty:~# ls -F /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/
build@ kernel/ modules.alias modules.dep modules.inputmap
modules.ofmap modules.seriomap modules.usbmap volatile/
initrd/ madwifi/ modules.ccwmap modules.ieee1394map
modules.isapnpmap modules.pcimap modules.symbols ubuntu/


The 2.6.20 kernel sources do have the ubuntu/ subdirectory and the
2.6.22 kernel sources don't.

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On 2008-05-16, Josef Moellers wrote:
> Ignoramus620 wrote:
>> On 2008-05-16, Josef Moellers wrote:
>>> Ignoramus21037 wrote:
>>>> On 2008-05-15, Josef Moellers <5502109103600001@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to peek into gutsy's kernel sources and backport some code into
>>>>> the ubuntu/media/usbvideo to support my webcam under feisty.
>>>>> However, I cannot find the complete kernel source tree.
>>>>> I cannot remember exactly where I got the feisty source code.
>>>>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josef
>>>> try linux-source package
>>> I did. The linux-source-2.6.22.tar.gz that it installed does not contain
>>> the ubuntu/ subdirectory that my 2.6.20.tar.gz had. The uvc-stuff is in
>>> there.
>>>
>>
>> What are you actually trying to accomplish?
>
> I bought the camera after checking its compatibility with my notebook at
> work (Kubuntu 7.10). When I returned home, it didn't work there (Kubuntu
> 7.04), so I suspect a difference in the kernel driver modules uvcvideo.ko.
> At home, I have the kernel sources of the 2.6.20 kernel and they include
> a subdirectory "ubuntu/" (with further subdirectories "media/usbvideo").
> I then tried to find the source code for the 2.6.22 kernel as used in
> Kubuntu 7.10, but the package I downloaded didn't contain the ubuntu
> subdirectory, while the installation does have a
> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/ subdirectory!
>
> I was hoping to find some difference between the 2.6.20 and 2.6.22
> kernel sources that might explain why 7.10 can handle my camera while
> 7.04 cannot, and patch the 7.04 kernel sources such that it handles my
> camera.
>
> (At a more general level: Occasionally I'd like to be able to skim
> through the kernel sources to find out how things work and at work we
> support Novell/SuSE and Red Hat and both provide the kernel sources.
> Having used these systems for some time, I'm not yet fully familiar with
> Debian/Ubuntu and I still have difficulties finding sources)
>
>> Could it be that your digital camera could be made to work by some
>> simplier means?
>>
>> Usually the solution is to find out the driver and say
>>
>> sudo modprobe driver
>>
>> for example
>>
>> sudo modprobe uvcvideo
>>
>> or some such.
>
> Yet, on 7.04 the error message I then get is something in the line of
> "format or frame index out of range".
> I tried by simply setting the indices to 1 and this allowed me to use my
> camera, but this is not what I want.
>
> So I'm looking for the source code of the 7.10 uvcvideo.ko driver.
>
> In the mean time, I have found an svn repository on berlios, so maybe
> that will help.
>

if your camera is recognized by uvcvideo, I would personally just
spend time trying to gert it to work with stock uvcvideo.

I think that trying to compile your own kernel, is a misleading path.

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On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:37:35 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?

>> http://www.kernel.org

> Not quite. That's the original, Linus-released source code.

Oh, yeah. I forgot that you *buntu users have to use that
patched/modified/"improved"/broken kernel stuff. I'm used to using
pristine kernel source with my Slackware systems.

> I was looking for the Ubuntu kernel sources.

I would think the obvious answer is "the repositories". Right?



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Ignoramus620 wrote:

> if your camera is recognized by uvcvideo, I would personally just
> spend time trying to gert it to work with stock uvcvideo.
>
> I think that trying to compile your own kernel, is a misleading path.

I do know that and I just do a
make M=ubuntu/media/uvcvideo modules
then throw out the old uvcvideo and plug in the new one:
rmmod uvcvideo; insmod ubuntu/media/uvcvideo/uvcvideo.ko

No need for a full blown
make bzImage modules modules-install
;-)

BTW I just found the linux-uvc stuff on berlios (including 3
uninitialized parameters ;-). Works well on my 7.10 here at work, will
try at home, too.

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Dan C wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:37:35 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
>
>>>> Where's the beef ... I mean ... source?
>
>>> http://www.kernel.org
>
>> Not quite. That's the original, Linus-released source code.
>
> Oh, yeah. I forgot that you *buntu users have to use that
> patched/modified/"improved"/broken kernel stuff. I'm used to using
> pristine kernel source with my Slackware systems.

Quite a number of distributions have non-pristine kernels.
It's not always possible to use the pristine kernels, nor is it always
possible to switch to the latest, greatest kernel.
I can live with that.

>> I was looking for the Ubuntu kernel sources.
>
> I would think the obvious answer is "the repositories". Right?

Apparently it isn't. Though I did not do an exhaustive search of the
repositories, then.

Thanks anyway,

Josef
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 15:39:32 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>> Oh, yeah. I forgot that you *buntu users have to use that
>> patched/modified/"improved"/broken kernel stuff. I'm used to using
>> pristine kernel source with my Slackware systems.

> Quite a number of distributions have non-pristine kernels.

True enough.

> It's not always possible to use the pristine kernels, nor is it always
> possible to switch to the latest, greatest kernel. I can live with that.

It is possible for me, or anyone else who compiles their own custom
kernel. I don't always run right out and get the newest kernel source,
but I'm rarely more than 1 revision behind. Guess I'd better do that soon,
I'm running 2.6.25.1 now and we're already up to 2.6.25.3...

>>> I was looking for the Ubuntu kernel sources.

>> I would think the obvious answer is "the repositories". Right?

> Apparently it isn't. Though I did not do an exhaustive search of the
> repositories, then.

Perhaps you should do that.


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