On Thu, 01 May 2008 21:03:20 +0200, Henk Oegema wrote:

> I have a pc with Windows XP installed. (400Mhz CPU, 256 MB RAM) I
> installed also Xubuntu. (together with Windows)
>
> When I boot the pc, I can not choose which OS to use. The (USB) keyboard
> is not reacting to make different choices. I also tried a non-usb
> keyboard, but that one doesn't react either.
>
> Xubuntu is on top and Windows is at the bottom. So automatically Xubuntu
> is loaded after the time out.
>
> Once Xubuntu has started the keyboard works fine, so I'm able to logon (
> )
>
> Is there any solution to that problem. ?
>
> Is it possible to set Windows on top in the loader? If so, how ?
>
> Rgds
> Henk

Seems like a USB issue. Check your BIOS settings for the 'legacy USB'
option. On a few occasions enabling legacy USB support did the trick.

Henk Oegema wrote:
> I have a pc with Windows XP installed. (400Mhz CPU, 256 MB RAM)

This is where it would be useful to know what is the pc brand/modelno or
its mobo and/or whether or not its usb is on the mobo or a pci card. I
think I'll assume that the usb is on the mobo and that the keyboard is
plugged into that mobo usb.

> I installed also Xubuntu. (together with Windows)
>
> When I boot the pc, I can not choose which OS to use.
> The (USB) keyboard is not reacting to make different choices.

You need to get into your BIOS and enable the USB keyboard. Here's a
screenshot of someone doing that
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editor...A98F3D65DC7942
6F9FED3356E1E343D0&image=00966041.jpg&caption=For+a+USB+keyboard+to+work
+properly+when+using+real%2Dmode+applications+or+D OS%2C+you%27ll+have+to
+enable+USB+%28Universal+Serial+Bus%29+keyboard+su pport+in+the+system+BI
OS+%28Basic+Input%2FOutput+System%29%2E or snurled of the above
http://snipr.com/26oke

> I also tried a non-usb keyboard, but that one doesn't react either.

Let's stick with one undefined problem at a time. I can't imagine why a
PS2 keyboard wouldn't be seen by the bios, maybe you plugged it into the
ps2 mouse port.

> Xubuntu is on top and Windows is at the bottom.
> So automatically Xubuntu is loaded after the time out.
>
> Once Xubuntu has started the keyboard works fine, so I'm able to logon
> ( )
>
> Is there any solution to that problem. ?

Enable the keyboard in the bios.

> Is it possible to set Windows on top in the loader?
> If so, how ?

Edit grub menu.lst by changing default from 0 to the number for the
Windows.


--
Mike Easter

maxx wrote:

> On Thu, 01 May 2008 21:03:20 +0200, Henk Oegema wrote:
>
>> I have a pc with Windows XP installed. (400Mhz CPU, 256 MB RAM) I
>> installed also Xubuntu. (together with Windows)
>>
>> When I boot the pc, I can not choose which OS to use. The (USB) keyboard
>> is not reacting to make different choices. I also tried a non-usb
>> keyboard, but that one doesn't react either.
>>
>> Xubuntu is on top and Windows is at the bottom. So automatically Xubuntu
>> is loaded after the time out.
>>
>> Once Xubuntu has started the keyboard works fine, so I'm able to logon (
>> )
>>
>> Is there any solution to that problem. ?
>>
>> Is it possible to set Windows on top in the loader? If so, how ?
>>
>> Rgds
>> Henk
>
> Seems like a USB issue. Check your BIOS settings for the 'legacy USB'
> option. On a few occasions enabling legacy USB support did the trick.

YES, you did it.

Thanks very much.

Mike Easter wrote:


>
> You need to get into your BIOS and enable the USB keyboard. Here's a
> screenshot of someone doing that

Thanks Mike. It works now.

Henk Oegema wrote in news:YtoSj.1326$_f5.830
@newsfe05.ams2:

> I have a pc with Windows XP installed. (400Mhz CPU, 256 MB RAM)
> I installed also Xubuntu. (together with Windows)
>
> When I boot the pc, I can not choose which OS to use.
> The (USB) keyboard is not reacting to make different choices.
> I also tried a non-usb keyboard, but that one doesn't react either.
>
> Xubuntu is on top and Windows is at the bottom.
> So automatically Xubuntu is loaded after the time out.
>
> Once Xubuntu has started the keyboard works fine, so I'm able to logon
> ( )
>
> Is there any solution to that problem. ?
>
> Is it possible to set Windows on top in the loader?
> If so, how ?

Since you've got the keyboard problem figured out, had you done anything
about the boot order ?

I didn't give it much thought about which OS was the default after I got
the dual-boot setup working.

But then one day I was remoted into my box under XP and RDP. I can't
remember what exactly happened, but thru RPD, I had to do a shutdown /r
on the XP remote box, and it never came back.

It never came back becuase the timeout default in the dual-boot setup was
Ununtu, and that is what started, and I couldn't get back to the Windows
install to do what I needed to do until I got home.

DanS illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> Henk Oegema wrote in news:YtoSj.1326$_f5.830
> @newsfe05.ams2:
>
>> I have a pc with Windows XP installed. (400Mhz CPU, 256 MB RAM)
>> I installed also Xubuntu. (together with Windows)
>>
>> When I boot the pc, I can not choose which OS to use.
>> The (USB) keyboard is not reacting to make different choices.
>> I also tried a non-usb keyboard, but that one doesn't react either.
>>
>> Xubuntu is on top and Windows is at the bottom.
>> So automatically Xubuntu is loaded after the time out.
>>
>> Once Xubuntu has started the keyboard works fine, so I'm able to logon
>> ( )
>>
>> Is there any solution to that problem. ?
>>
>> Is it possible to set Windows on top in the loader?
>> If so, how ?
>
> Since you've got the keyboard problem figured out, had you done anything
> about the boot order ?
>
> I didn't give it much thought about which OS was the default after I got
> the dual-boot setup working.
>
> But then one day I was remoted into my box under XP and RDP. I can't
> remember what exactly happened, but thru RPD, I had to do a shutdown /r
> on the XP remote box, and it never came back.
>
> It never came back becuase the timeout default in the dual-boot setup was
> Ununtu, and that is what started, and I couldn't get back to the Windows
> install to do what I needed to do until I got home.

Ironically, the first thing *I'd* have thought of prior to even
contemplating a remote shutdown would have been...

What will happen if I do a remote shutdown.

I'd have organised an ssh login to Ubuntu before even leaving my
house.


--
Moog

"The G is for the gnarled face of someone who's on ninety thousand
pounds a week who reckoned he should have had a throw in"

Moog wrote in
news:67utd1F2nkg6jU10@mid.individual.net:

>> Since you've got the keyboard problem figured out, had you done
>> anything about the boot order ?
>>
>> I didn't give it much thought about which OS was the default after I
>> got the dual-boot setup working.
>>
>> But then one day I was remoted into my box under XP and RDP. I can't
>> remember what exactly happened, but thru RPD, I had to do a shutdown
>> /r on the XP remote box, and it never came back.
>>
>> It never came back becuase the timeout default in the dual-boot setup
>> was Ununtu, and that is what started, and I couldn't get back to the
>> Windows install to do what I needed to do until I got home.
>
> Ironically, the first thing *I'd* have thought of prior to even
> contemplating a remote shutdown would have been...
>
> What will happen if I do a remote shutdown.

In my own defense, it was very shortly after I got the dual boot thing
working and didn't even think about it. I had no clue as to what happened
until I got home. DOH !

> I'd have organised an ssh login to Ubuntu before even leaving my
> house.

In time I'll get remoting into Ubuntu working. I do probably spend an
hour a day on remote. I'm an absolute new-comer to Ubuntu, well, Linux
period, but the knowledge comes slower now than it did 25 years ago.

DanS illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> Moog wrote in
> news:67utd1F2nkg6jU10@mid.individual.net:
>
>>> Since you've got the keyboard problem figured out, had you done
>>> anything about the boot order ?
>>>
>>> I didn't give it much thought about which OS was the default after I
>>> got the dual-boot setup working.
>>>
>>> But then one day I was remoted into my box under XP and RDP. I can't
>>> remember what exactly happened, but thru RPD, I had to do a shutdown
>>> /r on the XP remote box, and it never came back.
>>>
>>> It never came back becuase the timeout default in the dual-boot setup
>>> was Ununtu, and that is what started, and I couldn't get back to the
>>> Windows install to do what I needed to do until I got home.
>>
>> Ironically, the first thing *I'd* have thought of prior to even
>> contemplating a remote shutdown would have been...
>>
>> What will happen if I do a remote shutdown.
>
> In my own defense, it was very shortly after I got the dual boot thing
> working and didn't even think about it. I had no clue as to what happened
> until I got home. DOH !

Understood Dan. We've all been there.

>> I'd have organised an ssh login to Ubuntu before even leaving my
>> house.
>
> In time I'll get remoting into Ubuntu working. I do probably spend an
> hour a day on remote. I'm an absolute new-comer to Ubuntu, well, Linux
> period, but the knowledge comes slower now than it did 25 years ago.

There's plenty of help here. I think most of us use ssh. That might be
somewhere to start. Let the group know if you need any advice.

--
Moog

"The G is for the gnarled face of someone who's on ninety thousand
pounds a week who reckoned he should have had a throw in"