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  1. Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:

    - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    - using envyng
    - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel

    Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?

    I could try a fresh reinstall as I keep my data in a separate
    partition and do regular backups of all my databases. But I'll
    loose all the software configurations and the several small tweaks
    I've done to my system so it is not a very attractive option.

    I really don't care a lot for the eyecandy but find the screen
    opacity thing very useful when coding... actually that's the only
    feature I'm really missing.

    Saludos,
    AHG
    --
    There are two kinds of people, those who finish what
    they start and so on...

  2. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    Andres E. Hernando wrote:
    > I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    > to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    > thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    > a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    > tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >
    > - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    > - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    > - using envyng
    > - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    > - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >
    > Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?
    >
    > I could try a fresh reinstall as I keep my data in a separate
    > partition and do regular backups of all my databases. But I'll
    > loose all the software configurations and the several small tweaks
    > I've done to my system so it is not a very attractive option.
    >
    > I really don't care a lot for the eyecandy but find the screen
    > opacity thing very useful when coding... actually that's the only
    > feature I'm really missing.
    >
    > Saludos,
    > AHG


    I have the same problem with my older still Geforce2 MX.
    7.10 detected it and it worked OK. Downloading new software (for
    windows, of course) did nothing in Linux and broke it for XP.
    It may be a Geforce problem 'probably' or you may need to do an upgrade
    rather than a 'clean' install. I can't speak for 8.04 yet since my DVD's
    are turning into coasters so I can't install it.

    Do be wary of the Nvidia drivers. They may break what doesn't need fixing.

    I know, no help, just a warning.

    Bill Baka

  3. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:04:37 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:

    > I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    > to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    > thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    > a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    > tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >
    > - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    > - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    > - using envyng
    > - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    > - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >
    > Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?
    >
    > I could try a fresh reinstall as I keep my data in a separate
    > partition and do regular backups of all my databases. But I'll
    > loose all the software configurations and the several small tweaks
    > I've done to my system so it is not a very attractive option.
    >
    > I really don't care a lot for the eyecandy but find the screen
    > opacity thing very useful when coding... actually that's the only
    > feature I'm really missing.
    >
    > Saludos,
    > AHG


    I had a burp with the 8 series restricted driver going to low resolution
    like you experienced. I reconfigured to the xorg 'nv' driver and
    reinstalled the restricted driver and everything was fine after.

    I know, not much help, just sharing that your situation is not unique.
    I've noticed a few non-fatal bugs in 8.04 (Kubuntu with Gnome desktop for
    Ubuntustudio RT kernel) so far.



  4. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:04:37 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:

    > I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    > to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    > thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    > a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    > tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >
    > - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    > - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    > - using envyng
    > - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    > - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >
    > Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?


    Yes. You need to install the "legacy" driver, directly from the Nvidia
    website, for such an old graphics card. The driver pages there clearly
    identify what driver version supports which cards. Go look at it.

    > I could try a fresh reinstall as I keep my data in a separate
    > partition and do regular backups of all my databases. But I'll loose all
    > the software configurations and the several small tweaks I've done to my
    > system so it is not a very attractive option.


    Ridiculous idea. Quit thinking like a Windoze user. This isn't Windoze,
    where you solve all problems by reinstalling the OS. It does bring up the
    point that you should be doing some backups, but that's another story.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org


  5. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:32:45 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:

    >> I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    >> to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    >> thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    >> a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    >> tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:




    > I have the same problem with my older still Geforce2 MX.
    > 7.10 detected it and it worked OK. Downloading new software (for
    > windows, of course) did nothing in Linux and broke it for XP.
    > It may be a Geforce problem 'probably' or you may need to do an upgrade
    > rather than a 'clean' install. I can't speak for 8.04 yet since my DVD's
    > are turning into coasters so I can't install it.


    It's got nothing to do with the OS version/install. It's a graphic driver
    issue. He clearly is using a wrong driver.

    > Do be wary of the Nvidia drivers. They may break what doesn't need fixing.


    Hogwash. If you use the proper driver version and install it correctly
    (all explained in easy detail on the Nvidia website), nothing gets broken.

    > I know, no help, just a warning.


    You don't know what you're talking about, as usual, Win-droid.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org


  6. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    In Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:41:03, Dan C wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:
    > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:04:37 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:
    >
    >> I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    >> to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    >> thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    >> a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    >> tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >>
    >> - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    >> - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    >> - using envyng
    >> - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    >> - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >>
    >> Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?

    >
    > Yes. You need to install the "legacy" driver, directly from the Nvidia
    > website, for such an old graphics card. The driver pages there clearly
    > identify what driver version supports which cards. Go look at it.


    Did it... didn't work. If you could read at the same speed
    you throw your sh*t at people, you would've noticed at the
    fourth point in the bullet list.

    >
    >> I could try a fresh reinstall as I keep my data in a separate
    >> partition and do regular backups of all my databases. But I'll loose all
    >> the software configurations and the several small tweaks I've done to my
    >> system so it is not a very attractive option.

    >
    > Ridiculous idea. Quit thinking like a Windoze user. This isn't Windoze,
    > where you solve all problems by reinstalling the OS. It does bring up the
    > point that you should be doing some backups, but that's another story.


    Nah! I already solved it, but wont tell *you* how I did it...
    Actually, reinstalling would also have worked (most of the time it
    does, doesn't it?) I don't like it because it makes me work a
    little harder and not learn a thing in the process.

    Have a nice day...

    Saludos,
    AHG
    --
    Given infinite time, 100 monkeys could type out the complete works of
    Shakespeare. Win 98 source code? Eight monkeys, five minutes.

  7. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    In Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:04:43, Meat Plow wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:
    > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:04:37 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:
    >
    >> I have a rather old Geforce 4 MX graphics card. Since upgrading
    >> to 8.04 I have been unable to get the graphical accelaration
    >> thingy to work. Every time a try something new, all I get is
    >> a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    >> tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:

    >
    > I had a burp with the 8 series restricted driver going to low resolution
    > like you experienced. I reconfigured to the xorg 'nv' driver and
    > reinstalled the restricted driver and everything was fine after.
    >


    I solved it... Kind of... You put me in the right track, though:
    I removed everything nvidia-related using synaptics and went back
    to the 'nv' driver in the hope of having a system 'as if' I had done
    a fresh reinstall. After restarting, reinstalled the restricted
    driver and restarted once more and it went back to the low resolution
    failsafe configuration. But then I noticed the following:

    [hernando@desktop:~]$ modprobe -l | grep nvidia
    /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
    /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/nvidia_legacy.ko
    /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/nvidia_new.ko
    /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
    /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko

    So that looked a little weird to me... so I did this:
    [hernando@desktop:~]$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
    [hernando@desktop:~]$ sudo rmmod nvidia
    [hernando@desktop:~]$ sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
    [hernando@desktop:~]$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start

    And voila! I had the restricted driver working and the whole package
    of eyecandy all for my viewing pleasure...

    Of course, this will work for this session only (since I manually removed
    and loaded a module to the kernel) so I'm trying to learn a little more
    and get it done permanently... I'm trying to avoid the easy way out
    of editing /etc/init.d/gdm

    Saludos,
    AHG
    --
    "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side,
    and it holds the universe together..."
    -- Carl Zwanzig

  8. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:45 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:

    >>> a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    >>> tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >>>
    >>> - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    >>> - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    >>> - using envyng
    >>> - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    >>> - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?


    >> Yes. You need to install the "legacy" driver, directly from the Nvidia
    >> website, for such an old graphics card. The driver pages there clearly
    >> identify what driver version supports which cards. Go look at it.


    > Did it... didn't work. If you could read at the same speed
    > you throw your sh*t at people, you would've noticed at the
    > fourth point in the bullet list.


    You didn't say you had installed the *LEGACY* driver, which is needed for
    that old card, asswipe. Most *buntu n00bs such as yourself would have
    just grabbed the newest version of the driver, which will not work in this
    case.

    >> Ridiculous idea. Quit thinking like a Windoze user. This isn't
    >> Windoze, where you solve all problems by reinstalling the OS. It does
    >> bring up the point that you should be doing some backups, but that's
    >> another story.


    > Nah! I already solved it, but wont tell *you* how I did it...


    LOL! Like I would need you to tell me that. Har!

    > Actually, reinstalling would also have worked (most of the time it does,
    > doesn't it?) I don't like it because it makes me work a little harder
    > and not learn a thing in the process.


    You'll be a n00b forever. Bugger off.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org


  9. Re: Upgrade... No graphical acceleration

    In Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:50:49, Dan C wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:
    > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:45 +0000, Andres E. Hernando wrote:
    >
    >>>> a low resolution screen (640x480) and some warning... I have
    >>>> tried everything that I could think of, to no avail:
    >>>>
    >>>> - The Hardware Drivers that used to work with 7.10
    >>>> - Directly installing the glx and/or the glx-legacy drivers
    >>>> - using envyng
    >>>> - directly installing the driver from the nvidia page
    >>>> - going back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel
    >>>>
    >>>> Any ideas what could be wrong and how to solve it?

    >
    >>> Yes. You need to install the "legacy" driver, directly from the Nvidia
    >>> website, for such an old graphics card. The driver pages there clearly
    >>> identify what driver version supports which cards. Go look at it.

    >
    >> Did it... didn't work. If you could read at the same speed
    >> you throw your sh*t at people, you would've noticed at the
    >> fourth point in the bullet list.

    >
    > You didn't say you had installed the *LEGACY* driver,


    I did... It's amazing how much energy you waste
    demonstrating that you can't read.

    >
    >> Nah! I already solved it, but wont tell *you* how I did it...

    >
    > LOL! Like I would need you to tell me that. Har!
    >
    >> Actually, reinstalling would also have worked (most of the time it does,
    >> doesn't it?) I don't like it because it makes me work a little harder
    >> and not learn a thing in the process.

    >
    > You'll be a n00b forever. Bugger off.


    Nah! I will learn and that would be solved... You, on the
    other hand, will be an assh*le for the rest of your life.

    Best,
    AHG
    --
    As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is
    its adherents.
    -- George Orwell

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