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  1. Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    I may have complained here earlier about how badly Firefox seems to bog
    down under Ubuntu. I have recently upped my RAM to 2GB and lowered the
    swappiness to 10, and this is still the case; Firefox actually runs faster
    under Windows, and allows me to have many many more tabs open before it
    crashes. Anyway, I just recently got around to porting all of my previous
    mail over to Thunderbird under Ubuntu, and I found that Thunderbird
    *really* bogs down. It's ridiculous! When I open a mail message, the
    empty frame of a window just stands there for the longest time before
    filling in--and this is just simple, unformatted text! Trying to scroll
    through lists of messages is maddening, with the jerkiness and the lags.
    At least Firefox had the excuse of all that graphic, streaming, and
    animated content, but Thunderbird is just showing rectangles full of
    letters. Why should it take a long time even to switch between viewing
    windows that are already open?

    Has anyone else had this experience with Thunderbird?

    Also, despite importing the contents of my old profile, It seems that
    the address book did not make the transfer.

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  2. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    Paul Ciszek schreef:
    > I may have complained here earlier about how badly Firefox seems to bog
    > down under Ubuntu. I have recently upped my RAM to 2GB and lowered the
    > swappiness to 10, and this is still the case; Firefox actually runs faster
    > under Windows, and allows me to have many many more tabs open before it
    > crashes. Anyway, I just recently got around to porting all of my previous
    > mail over to Thunderbird under Ubuntu, and I found that Thunderbird
    > *really* bogs down. It's ridiculous! When I open a mail message, the
    > empty frame of a window just stands there for the longest time before
    > filling in--and this is just simple, unformatted text! Trying to scroll
    > through lists of messages is maddening, with the jerkiness and the lags.
    > At least Firefox had the excuse of all that graphic, streaming, and
    > animated content, but Thunderbird is just showing rectangles full of
    > letters. Why should it take a long time even to switch between viewing
    > windows that are already open?
    >
    > Has anyone else had this experience with Thunderbird?


    Not me, Thunderbird works fine on my 2.8 GHz P4 with 1.25 GB ram.
    Even when it had 512 MB it worked fine.
    With one exception, when downloading a lot of photo's via right-click it
    will eventually crash.
    So I use Konqueror for this type of downloading.

    A question, are only 'internet/network'applications slow?
    Then it might have something to do with the by default enabled IPv6,
    quite a few people had a marked speed improvement when disabling it.

    http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
    >
    > Also, despite importing the contents of my old profile, It seems that
    > the address book did not make the transfer.
    >


  3. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?


    In article <47b033f3$0$85783$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
    Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
    >
    >A question, are only 'internet/network'applications slow?
    >Then it might have something to do with the by default enabled IPv6,
    >quite a few people had a marked speed improvement when disabling it.
    >
    >http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html


    OK, I have created a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d
    containing this line:

    alias net-pf-10 off

    I'll see what happens when I reboot.

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  4. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    Paul Ciszek wrote:

    > In article <47b033f3$0$85783$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Dirk T.
    > Verbeek wrote:
    >
    >> A question, are only 'internet/network'applications slow? Then it
    >> might have something to do with the by default enabled IPv6, quite
    >> a few people had a marked speed improvement when disabling it.
    >>
    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html

    >
    > OK, I have created a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d
    > containing this line:
    >
    > alias net-pf-10 off
    >
    > I'll see what happens when I reboot.


    Disabling IPv6 won't help against insufficient graphics hardware
    acceleration. Which graphics card and which driver are you using? If it
    is something like an old ATI Radeon 9200 with the "ati" driver ("ati" is
    just a wrapper for "radeon") and visual effects enabled, the scrolling
    will get painfully slow.

    A slight improvement can be achieved disabling stripes of transparent
    png images in the message list:

    #threadTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(odd) {
    background-image: none !important;
    }

    Put in into ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/*/chrome/userChrome.css

    You may have to create the directory "chrome" in your Thunderbird
    profile first.

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356201

    Again, the slow scrolling has nothing to do with slow building of the
    list of mails if you select a mail folder. It is a totally different
    issue, which may be caused by corrupt mail summary files (*.msf).

    Ilja

  5. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?


    In article ,
    Ilja Sekler wrote:
    >Paul Ciszek wrote:
    >
    >> In article <47b033f3$0$85783$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Dirk T.
    >> Verbeek wrote:
    >>
    >>> A question, are only 'internet/network'applications slow? Then it
    >>> might have something to do with the by default enabled IPv6, quite
    >>> a few people had a marked speed improvement when disabling it.
    >>>
    >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html

    >>
    >> OK, I have created a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d
    >> containing this line:
    >>
    >> alias net-pf-10 off
    >>
    >> I'll see what happens when I reboot.

    >
    >Disabling IPv6 won't help against insufficient graphics hardware
    >acceleration. Which graphics card and which driver are you using? If it
    >is something like an old ATI Radeon 9200 with the "ati" driver ("ati" is
    >just a wrapper for "radeon") and visual effects enabled, the scrolling
    >will get painfully slow.


    I don't think it is a graphics issue; if I have a bunch of tabs in
    Firefox (but less than Windows can handle with no trouble) but only
    one of them visible at a time, and I click on a different tab, the
    graphics load shouldn't be too much greater than if I were just had
    those two pages open, shouldn't it? But if I have a series of tabs
    open, Firefox essentially stops after a little while.

    I have turned off visual effects already; it sounded like the sort
    of thing that makes Windows so bloated.

    >Again, the slow scrolling has nothing to do with slow building of the
    >list of mails if you select a mail folder. It is a totally different
    >issue, which may be caused by corrupt mail summary files (*.msf).


    Well, I did import them from Windows, where they had been imported from
    a much earlier version of Thunderbird. They may be incorrectly formatted.
    Is there anything that can be done about that?


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  6. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:04:11 +0000, Paul Ciszek wrote:


    >
    > Well, I did import them from Windows, where they had been imported from
    > a much earlier version of Thunderbird. They may be incorrectly
    > formatted. Is there anything that can be done about that?


    I suspect the conversion can have very strange effects. When I first
    imported a spreadsheet from Excel into Open Office, it took ages after
    each new item of data to be ready for the next item - I almost threw it
    away. Turned out that it was the automatic redrawing of a graph after
    each data entry, and setting that to 'manual' made data input fine, but
    redrawing the graph subsequently took between 12 and 15 minutes! After
    the axis on the graph (a date axis) was exceeded by the data, I re-
    entered the requirement to draw the graph from scratch, and a re-draw now
    takes about two seconds!

    Might not have anything to do with your problem, but might be worth
    sidelining the converted items to see if the problem goes away.

    Keith

  7. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    Paul Ciszek wrote:

    > Ilja Sekler wrote:
    >
    >> Paul Ciszek wrote:
    >>
    >>> OK, I have created a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d
    >>> containing this line:
    >>>
    >>> alias net-pf-10 off
    >>>
    >>> I'll see what happens when I reboot.

    >>
    >> Disabling IPv6 won't help against insufficient graphics hardware
    >> acceleration. Which graphics card and which driver are you using?
    >> If it is something like an old ATI Radeon 9200 with the "ati"
    >> driver ("ati" is just a wrapper for "radeon") and visual effects
    >> enabled, the scrolling will get painfully slow.

    >
    > I don't think it is a graphics issue; if I have a bunch of tabs in
    > Firefox (but less than Windows can handle with no trouble) but only
    > one of them visible at a time, and I click on a different tab, the
    > graphics load shouldn't be too much greater than if I were just had
    > those two pages open, shouldn't it? But if I have a series of tabs
    > open, Firefox essentially stops after a little while.


    As long as you ignore questions, it is difficult to help. Just FYI:
    Firefox on Linux with fully beatified Gnome is really slower as on
    Windows XP with a bare classic look, but it wouldn't crash only by
    opening a lot of tabs (over 30). The delay switching tabs is hardly
    perceptible. This is the normality.

    >> Again, the slow scrolling has nothing to do with slow building of
    >> the list of mails if you select a mail folder. It is a totally
    >> different issue, which may be caused by corrupt mail summary files
    >> (*.msf).

    >
    > Well, I did import them from Windows, where they had been imported
    > from a much earlier version of Thunderbird. [...] Is there anything
    > that can be done about that?


    I assume that they are on a ext3 or reiserfs partition, not somewhere on
    a shared vfat partition. Close Thunderbird, backup your Thunderbird
    profile and delete all *.msf files (the junk status will get lost). Upon
    opening Thunderbird again, it will rebuild the index files (it may take
    a *long* time). Next, compact mail folders (File -> Compact Folders).
    From now on, the message list should be displayed immediately after a
    mail folder is selected.

    Ilja

  8. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?

    On 2008-02-11, Paul Ciszek hit the keyboard and wrote:
    >
    > In article <47b033f3$0$85783$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
    > Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
    >>
    >>A question, are only 'internet/network'applications slow?
    >>Then it might have something to do with the by default enabled IPv6,
    >>quite a few people had a marked speed improvement when disabling it.
    >>
    >>http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html

    >
    > OK, I have created a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d
    > containing this line:
    >
    > alias net-pf-10 off
    >
    > I'll see what happens when I reboot.


    FWIW: For these kind of thing no reboot is needed, one can
    shutdown the network remove the module(s), then start the
    network again.


    >




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  9. Re: Thunderbird bogging down Ubuntu?


    In article ,
    Ilja Sekler wrote:
    >
    >As long as you ignore questions, it is difficult to help. Just FYI:
    >Firefox on Linux with fully beatified Gnome is really slower as on
    >Windows XP with a bare classic look, but it wouldn't crash only by
    >opening a lot of tabs (over 30). The delay switching tabs is hardly
    >perceptible. This is the normality.


    According to Hardware Information, the video card is GeForce4 MX 4000.
    I was going to order a newer one, but newegg sold out of the model that
    my brother recomended.

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