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  1. OT A question of AV software

    First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    one that I trust to give me good advice.

    I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    does have a better review than MacAfee.

    There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    flavour of Windows and need an AV package.

    Any constructive advice is welcome

    --
    "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

  2. Re: OT A question of AV software

    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    > Any constructive advice is welcome


    For the paranoid, Avira is very effective (and available for free!),
    but Kaspersky is also very good.

    Avira can be found here: http://www.free-av.com

    Avira (free) will give you a large popup window every time it updates
    offering the paid-for product, but borders on the paranoid by warning
    about almost anything (keygens etc) whether it carries a malicious
    payload or not. My wife has it on her machine, but it annoyed me too
    much to stick with it (i'm a heavy user, she does general email /
    surfing only)

    Kaspersky had one flaw in my experience (I stopped using it in July)
    which was that it could be a little flaky when checking multiple email
    accounts (I check about 7 at a time) - disabling mail and news
    checking cured it.

    In Aviras' defence, if you visit http://www.av-comparatives.org and
    look at the online test results you'll notice two things:

    a) it has VERY strong detection rates
    b) even without being updated for 3 months, the retrospective results
    show very strong results (best on test IIRC at around 71% detection,
    whereas many are struggling to hit 10% !)

    Personally, I use Avast on my machine now - it's free and the
    detection always appeared better from experience than AVG (I get
    called in to fix spyware for people regularly, and anyone with AVG
    always had a minimum of two viruses active in memory if my experiences
    12-18 months ago are anything to go by).

    I also scan occasionally with Sysclean from Trend Micro (it's a one-
    off free virus checker that uses their latest paid-for-product virus
    signatures) to double check my system.

  3. Re: OT A question of AV software

    "Baba O'Reilly" wrote in message
    news:474b72c5$0$5278$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >
    > Any constructive advice is welcome
    >
    > --
    > "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much



    NOD32 is also a very good AV....comes in a suite now, but its barely out of
    beta.
    NOD32 2.7 is the most stable.


  4. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >
    > Any constructive advice is welcome
    >
    > --
    > "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much


    I've heard good things about NOD32 from Eset, http://www.eset.com. It's
    small and fast and it's recommended by Leo Laporte, The Tech Guy,
    http://techguylabs.com.

    Dean

  5. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Avast Home is free and is a good choice too.

    "Baba O'Reilly" wrote in message
    news:474b72c5$0$5278$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >
    > Any constructive advice is welcome
    >
    > --
    > "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much




  6. Re: OT A question of AV software

    On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:

    > does have a better review than MacAfee.


    NOD32. The best.



    --
    :-)

  7. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.


    AVG here, the paid version, but I am also behind a hardware firewall and
    don't use OE!

  8. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >
    > Any constructive advice is welcome
    >
    > --
    > "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much


    If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
    AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically
    where Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.

    Cheers;

    Ed

  9. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Baba O'Reilly writes:

    > First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    > to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    > one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >
    > I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    > of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    > Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    > But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    > my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    > does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >
    > There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    > flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >
    > Any constructive advice is welcome


    The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
    post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
    will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".

    http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html

    --
    Dondequiera que haya un mejor y un peor, la prioridad está de parte de
    lo mejor.
    -- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego.

  10. Re: OT A question of AV software

    * Holz:
    > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    >
    >> does have a better review than MacAfee.

    >
    > NOD32. The best.
    >
    >
    >

    It's NOD32 for sure. Ran all the others, AVG, Kaspersky, Norton, etc...
    Nod32 is the best and uses very little resources.

  11. Re: OT A question of AV software

    * Hadron:
    > Baba O'Reilly writes:
    >
    >> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >> one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >>
    >> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    >> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>
    >> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>
    >> Any constructive advice is welcome

    >
    > The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
    > post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
    > will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
    >
    > http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
    >

    I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It
    seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
    dual boot. IMHO

  12. Re: OT A question of AV software

    On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:52:32 -0500, Brian wrote:

    > It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
    > windows dual boot.


    What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
    conclusion from where I am.

  13. Re: OT A question of AV software

    * Mark South:
    > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:52:32 -0500, Brian wrote:
    >
    >> It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
    >> windows dual boot.

    >
    > What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
    > conclusion from where I am.


    because in most of the linux newsgroups/web forums a very good
    percentage of posts deal with dual-booting. Even in alot of the windows
    groups.

  14. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Brian writes:

    > * Hadron:
    >> Baba O'Reilly writes:
    >>
    >>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >>>
    >>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my
    >>> work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>>
    >>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>>
    >>> Any constructive advice is welcome

    >>
    >> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
    >> post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
    >> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
    >>
    >> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
    >>

    > I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It


    You do? So by that logic would we start asking here for people's
    opinions on the best Joystick for Windows Gaming? Where do you propose
    this polling of Windows users will end?

    > seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
    > dual boot. IMHO


    Another way of looking at it is that most people with dual boot only
    dual boot for gaming. They have no need for anti-virus since all their
    email needs are done on Linux. Mine are anyway.

    --
    There is no such thing as fortune. Try again.

  15. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Brian wrote:

    > * Hadron:
    >> Baba O'Reilly writes:
    >>
    >>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >>>
    >>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    >>> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>>
    >>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>>
    >>> Any constructive advice is welcome

    >>
    >> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
    >> post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
    >> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
    >>
    >> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
    >>

    > I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It
    > seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
    > dual boot. IMHO


    Only for a little while. Eventually that unused partition is wiped and
    formatted with a Linux filesystem and used for additional Linux data
    storage. :-)

    Cheers.

    --
    Sometimes, I Wake Up Grumpy.
    Sometimes, I Just Let Him Sleep In.
    -- My Wife


  16. Re: OT A question of AV software

    On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:19:28 -0500, Brian wrote:

    >>> It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
    >>> windows dual boot.


    >> What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
    >> conclusion from where I am.


    > because in most of the linux newsgroups/web forums a very good
    > percentage of posts deal with dual-booting. Even in alot of the windows
    > groups.


    Bugger off, Mac-boy. You're as clueless as the Win-droids.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  17. Re: OT A question of AV software

    latest avast free versions auto-update too.

    "Night0wl" wrote in message
    news:474be71d$0$2325$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    > Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    >> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >> one that I trust to give me good advice. I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but
    >> I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my work
    >> VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>
    >> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>
    >> Any constructive advice is welcome
    >>
    >> --
    >> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

    >
    > If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
    > AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically where
    > Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.
    >
    > Cheers;
    >
    > Ed




  18. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Vittorio Okio wrote:

    > latest avast free versions auto-update too.
    >

    Oh, goody goody. I feel so much better knowing that more futile attempts are
    being made to protect Windoze boxes on the Net. Now, if you could convince
    Hadron to dual boot into Windoze and stay there, I'll be even more
    impressed.

    Cheers.

    PS. I'm sure that with a little effort, even running Outhouse Express, you
    can figure out a way to not top post.


    > "Night0wl" wrote in message
    > news:474be71d$0$2325$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    >> Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    >>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >>> one that I trust to give me good advice. I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but
    >>> I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my work
    >>> VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>>
    >>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>>
    >>> Any constructive advice is welcome
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

    >>
    >> If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
    >> AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically where
    >> Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.
    >>
    >> Cheers;
    >>
    >> Ed


    --
    Sometimes, I Wake Up Grumpy.
    Sometimes, I Just Let Him Sleep In.
    -- My Wife


  19. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Brian illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
    > * Holz:
    >> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:
    >>
    >>> does have a better review than MacAfee.

    >>
    >> NOD32. The best.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > It's NOD32 for sure. Ran all the others, AVG, Kaspersky, Norton, etc...
    > Nod32 is the best and uses very little resources.


    NOD32 comes out very poorly in most recent independent tests. It is
    actually betted by many free AV solutions.

    ATM Kaspersky is the best windows AV software. I personally us free-av
    for the times when I *have* to boot into windows .

    --
    Moog

    "Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
    leather straps."

  20. Re: OT A question of AV software

    Hadron illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
    > Baba O'Reilly writes:
    >
    >> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
    >> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
    >> one that I trust to give me good advice.
    >>
    >> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
    >> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
    >> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
    >> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
    >> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
    >> does have a better review than MacAfee.
    >>
    >> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
    >> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
    >>
    >> Any constructive advice is welcome

    >
    > The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
    > post. WTF would you ask here for?


    You're in the land of "Black and White" again Hadron...come back to
    /usr land.

    OK. I'll answer your question.

    The OP thought the following...
    1) He trusts the views of the posters here as it is genuinely a very
    helpful group
    2) He knows that a lot of the memebers of this group are just as
    knowledgable regarding Windows as they are in Linux.
    3) He was looking for an unbiased recomendation from 1) and 2)

    Simple? Well I thought so.

    > Read the professional reviews. All you
    > will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".


    The windows world is not a place to trust "professional" reviews. My
    suggestion is to forget that and read "independent test reviews".

    Testing AV software is complex.
    Reviewing it is a piece of piss.

    > http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html


    Mope. Sorry. I don't trust that.
    http://www.toptenreviews.com/about-us.html

    A website with a CEO suggests they are profit-making and therefore
    may well have ulterior financial motives regarding their findings.

    HTH.

    --
    Moog

    "Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
    leather straps."

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