> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
> Any constructive advice is welcome

For the paranoid, Avira is very effective (and available for free!),
but Kaspersky is also very good.

Avira can be found here: http://www.free-av.com

Avira (free) will give you a large popup window every time it updates
offering the paid-for product, but borders on the paranoid by warning
about almost anything (keygens etc) whether it carries a malicious
payload or not. My wife has it on her machine, but it annoyed me too
much to stick with it (i'm a heavy user, she does general email /
surfing only)

Kaspersky had one flaw in my experience (I stopped using it in July)
which was that it could be a little flaky when checking multiple email
accounts (I check about 7 at a time) - disabling mail and news
checking cured it.

In Aviras' defence, if you visit http://www.av-comparatives.org and
look at the online test results you'll notice two things:

a) it has VERY strong detection rates
b) even without being updated for 3 months, the retrospective results
show very strong results (best on test IIRC at around 71% detection,
whereas many are struggling to hit 10% !)

Personally, I use Avast on my machine now - it's free and the
detection always appeared better from experience than AVG (I get
called in to fix spyware for people regularly, and anyone with AVG
always had a minimum of two viruses active in memory if my experiences
12-18 months ago are anything to go by).

I also scan occasionally with Sysclean from Trend Micro (it's a one-
off free virus checker that uses their latest paid-for-product virus
signatures) to double check my system.

"Baba O'Reilly" wrote in message
news:474b72c5$0$5278$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>
> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> --
> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much


NOD32 is also a very good AV....comes in a suite now, but its barely out of
beta.
NOD32 2.7 is the most stable.

Baba O'Reilly wrote:
> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>
> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> --
> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

I've heard good things about NOD32 from Eset, http://www.eset.com. It's
small and fast and it's recommended by Leo Laporte, The Tech Guy,
http://techguylabs.com.

Dean

Avast Home is free and is a good choice too.

"Baba O'Reilly" wrote in message
news:474b72c5$0$5278$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>
> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> --
> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:

> does have a better review than MacAfee.

NOD32. The best.



--
:-)

Baba O'Reilly wrote:
> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.

AVG here, the paid version, but I am also behind a hardware firewall and
don't use OE!

Baba O'Reilly wrote:
> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>
> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> --
> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much

If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically
where Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.

Cheers;

Ed

Baba O'Reilly writes:

> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>
> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>
> Any constructive advice is welcome

The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".

http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html

--
Dondequiera que haya un mejor y un peor, la prioridad está de parte de
lo mejor.
-- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego.

* Holz:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:
>
>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>
> NOD32. The best.
>
>
>
It's NOD32 for sure. Ran all the others, AVG, Kaspersky, Norton, etc...
Nod32 is the best and uses very little resources.

* Hadron:
> Baba O'Reilly writes:
>
>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>>
>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
>> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>
>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>
>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
> post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
>
> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
>
I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It
seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
dual boot. IMHO

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:52:32 -0500, Brian wrote:

> It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
> windows dual boot.

What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
conclusion from where I am.

* Mark South:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:52:32 -0500, Brian wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
>> windows dual boot.
>
> What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
> conclusion from where I am.

because in most of the linux newsgroups/web forums a very good
percentage of posts deal with dual-booting. Even in alot of the windows
groups.

Brian writes:

> * Hadron:
>> Baba O'Reilly writes:
>>
>>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>>>
>>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my
>>> work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>>
>>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>>
>>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>>
>> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
>> post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
>> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
>>
>> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
>>
> I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It

You do? So by that logic would we start asking here for people's
opinions on the best Joystick for Windows Gaming? Where do you propose
this polling of Windows users will end?

> seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
> dual boot. IMHO

Another way of looking at it is that most people with dual boot only
dual boot for gaming. They have no need for anti-virus since all their
email needs are done on Linux. Mine are anyway.

--
There is no such thing as fortune. Try again.

Brian wrote:

> * Hadron:
>> Baba O'Reilly writes:
>>
>>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>>>
>>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
>>> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>>
>>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>>
>>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>>
>> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
>> post. WTF would you ask here for? Read the professional reviews. All you
>> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".
>>
>> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html
>>
> I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical to post that question. It
> seems to me that most people running linux has some version of windows
> dual boot. IMHO

Only for a little while. Eventually that unused partition is wiped and
formatted with a Linux filesystem and used for additional Linux data
storage. :-)

Cheers.

--
Sometimes, I Wake Up Grumpy.
Sometimes, I Just Let Him Sleep In.
-- My Wife

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:19:28 -0500, Brian wrote:

>>> It seems to me that most people running linux has some version of
>>> windows dual boot.

>> What gives you that impression? I ask because it's a far from obvious
>> conclusion from where I am.

> because in most of the linux newsgroups/web forums a very good
> percentage of posts deal with dual-booting. Even in alot of the windows
> groups.

Bugger off, Mac-boy. You're as clueless as the Win-droids.


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

latest avast free versions auto-update too.

"Night0wl" wrote in message
news:474be71d$0$2325$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Baba O'Reilly wrote:
>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>> one that I trust to give me good advice. I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but
>> I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my work
>> VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>
>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>
>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>>
>> --
>> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much
>
> If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
> AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically where
> Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.
>
> Cheers;
>
> Ed

Vittorio Okio wrote:

> latest avast free versions auto-update too.
>
Oh, goody goody. I feel so much better knowing that more futile attempts are
being made to protect Windoze boxes on the Net. Now, if you could convince
Hadron to dual boot into Windoze and stay there, I'll be even more
impressed.

Cheers.

PS. I'm sure that with a little effort, even running Outhouse Express, you
can figure out a way to not top post.


> "Night0wl" wrote in message
> news:474be71d$0$2325$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Baba O'Reilly wrote:
>>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>>> one that I trust to give me good advice. I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but
>>> I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as my work
>>> VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>>
>>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>>
>>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>>>
>>> --
>>> "fortune" made my sig 20 lines long... slrn doesn't like that much
>>
>> If you'd like a free AV with the Kaspersky engine, you might try either
>> AVG Free, or Avast! Both auto-update. AVG Free runs automatically where
>> Avast! free must be run. I've had no problems on a VPN with either.
>>
>> Cheers;
>>
>> Ed

--
Sometimes, I Wake Up Grumpy.
Sometimes, I Just Let Him Sleep In.
-- My Wife

Brian illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> * Holz:
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:28:37 +0000, Baba O'Reilly wrote:
>>
>>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>
>> NOD32. The best.
>>
>>
>>
> It's NOD32 for sure. Ran all the others, AVG, Kaspersky, Norton, etc...
> Nod32 is the best and uses very little resources.

NOD32 comes out very poorly in most recent independent tests. It is
actually betted by many free AV solutions.

ATM Kaspersky is the best windows AV software. I personally us free-av
for the times when I *have* to boot into windows .

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

Hadron illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> Baba O'Reilly writes:
>
>> First of all, please forgive me for posting a totally off topic question
>> to this forum, but of all the groups I subscribe to, this is the ONLY
>> one that I trust to give me good advice.
>>
>> I run Ubuntu and openSuse, but I also use XP and Vista. I am tired
>> of the bloatware which is MacAfee, so I am considering switching to
>> Kaspersky. Most of the sites I've seen say I'm making a good move.
>> But the question is, am I really doing a good thing? As long as
>> my work VPN recognizes and accepts Kaspersky, I can use it and it
>> does have a better review than MacAfee.
>>
>> There must be a few folks out there in Ubuntu land who run some
>> flavour of Windows and need an AV package.
>>
>> Any constructive advice is welcome
>
> The replies you got reinforced my initial thoughts when I read your
> post. WTF would you ask here for?

You're in the land of "Black and White" again Hadron...come back to
/usr land.

OK. I'll answer your question.

The OP thought the following...
1) He trusts the views of the posters here as it is genuinely a very
helpful group
2) He knows that a lot of the memebers of this group are just as
knowledgable regarding Windows as they are in Linux.
3) He was looking for an unbiased recomendation from 1) and 2)

Simple? Well I thought so.

> Read the professional reviews. All you
> will get here is "Linux doesnt need one" and "xyz roxx".

The windows world is not a place to trust "professional" reviews. My
suggestion is to forget that and read "independent test reviews".

Testing AV software is complex.
Reviewing it is a piece of piss.

> http://anti-virus-software-review.to...ky-review.html

Mope. Sorry. I don't trust that.
http://www.toptenreviews.com/about-us.html

A website with a CEO suggests they are profit-making and therefore
may well have ulterior financial motives regarding their findings.

HTH.

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."