Martin Schnitkemper wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there a known workaround how to install bitmap fonts in kubuntu?
>
> Neither the installation nor the copy of the font files works, under fonts:/
> are only the ttf files visible, but not the bitmap fonts, and I can't
> select the bitmap fonts in any application.
>
> Also the installation of bitmap fonts for the konsole to fonts:/Personal
> failed.
>
> Martin.

Hello.

I'm not sure if (K)Ubuntu support Bitmap fonts, but I think that it should.

Under fonts:/// are only shown the systemwide avalaible fonts. TO see
the fonts you have installed look in ~/.fonts .

Rob

· Robert Zenz schrieb:

> Under fonts:/// are only shown the systemwide avalaible fonts.

No, under fonts:/ you will see two folders: personal and system.

If I use kcontrol to install the fonts I can chose if I like to install them
for the current user or systemwide.

> TO see
> the fonts you have installed look in ~/.fonts .

Yes, I can see them there, and if I try to install them again I get a
warning that they are already installed. They are installed but not
visible and available.

After I spent almost a whole day to solve the problem I searched for it and
found a bug report that describe exactly that problem:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ase/+bug/69314

Known since over a year, but nobody feels responsible to solve it. Then I
need not to waste more time with my trials, (k)ubuntu does no longer
support bitmap fonts.

Martin.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:31:51 +0100, Martin Schnitkemper wrote:

> After I spent almost a whole day to solve the problem I searched for it and
> found a bug report that describe exactly that problem:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ase/+bug/69314
>
> Known since over a year, but nobody feels responsible to solve it. Then I
> need not to waste more time with my trials, (k)ubuntu does no longer
> support bitmap fonts.

Notice that the bug status is "incomplete". If you relate your tests in
more detail, perhaps it can be promoted to complete, and then someone can
have it assigned.

I don't use Kubuntu and have almost never needed to mess with fonts, but
it sounds like there is some kind of permissions or rights issue here, can
you tell us the permissions on the fonts directories that are failing to
install?

· Mark South schrieb:

> Notice that the bug status is "incomplete". If you relate your tests in
> more detail, perhaps it can be promoted to complete, and then someone can
> have it assigned.

Don't know why it is marked as "incomplete", I think the problem has been
described well enough.

> I don't use Kubuntu and have almost never needed to mess with fonts, but
> it sounds like there is some kind of permissions or rights issue here, can
> you tell us the permissions on the fonts directories that are failing to
> install?

It fails in both, the personal and system folder.

Here is an example of the personal folder, located at ~/.fonts, these fonts
are not visible and usuable in kubuntu:

| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 71276 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS08.pcf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 11600 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS08_ISO8859_1.pcf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 79556 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS10.pcf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 13232 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS10_ISO8859_1.pcf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 86976 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS12.pcf

but these TTF, in the same folder and with same permissions are:

| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 273020 May 5 1999 arial.ttf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 284560 May 5 1999 arialbd.ttf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 221756 May 5 1999 arialbi.ttf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 200684 May 5 1999 ariali.ttf
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 117028 May 5 1999 ariblk.ttf

And it makes no difference if the bitmap font is compressed or not, these
are also not visible:

| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 79806 Oct 15 14:34 9x15.pcf.gz
| -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 12609 Oct 15 14:34 console8x16.pcf.gz

In other distributions (I am currently using openSUSE 10.2) are the
permissions set in the same way, and there are no problems.

Martin.

Martin Schnitkemper writes:

> · Mark South schrieb:
>
>> Notice that the bug status is "incomplete". If you relate your tests in
>> more detail, perhaps it can be promoted to complete, and then someone can
>> have it assigned.
>
> Don't know why it is marked as "incomplete", I think the problem has been
> described well enough.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592731
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186993

You are not alone.

Did you try

xset fp+ ~/.fonts
xset fp rehash

and restart X?

>
>> I don't use Kubuntu and have almost never needed to mess with fonts, but
>> it sounds like there is some kind of permissions or rights issue here, can
>> you tell us the permissions on the fonts directories that are failing to
>> install?
>
> It fails in both, the personal and system folder.
>
> Here is an example of the personal folder, located at ~/.fonts, these fonts
> are not visible and usuable in kubuntu:
>
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 71276 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS08.pcf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 11600 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS08_ISO8859_1.pcf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 79556 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS10.pcf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 13232 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS10_ISO8859_1.pcf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 86976 Nov 27 2006 100dpi_lutBS12.pcf
>
> but these TTF, in the same folder and with same permissions are:
>
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 273020 May 5 1999 arial.ttf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 284560 May 5 1999 arialbd.ttf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 221756 May 5 1999 arialbi.ttf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 200684 May 5 1999 ariali.ttf
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 117028 May 5 1999 ariblk.ttf
>
> And it makes no difference if the bitmap font is compressed or not, these
> are also not visible:
>
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 79806 Oct 15 14:34 9x15.pcf.gz
> | -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 12609 Oct 15 14:34 console8x16.pcf.gz
>
> In other distributions (I am currently using openSUSE 10.2) are the
> permissions set in the same way, and there are no problems.
>
> Martin.

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:54:51 +0100, Martin Schnitkemper wrote:

> · Mark South schrieb:
>
>> Notice that the bug status is "incomplete". If you relate your tests in
>> more detail, perhaps it can be promoted to complete, and then someone can
>> have it assigned.
>
> Don't know why it is marked as "incomplete", I think the problem has been
> described well enough.

Accepted, but whoever monitors that area of launchpad obviously doesn't
feel there is yet enough information to be going on with.

The best plan would be to increase the activity on that page by posting
there all the information that you have included here (but that I've
snipped :-)

· Mark South schrieb:

> The best plan would be to increase the activity on that page by posting
> there all the information that you have included here (but that I've
> snipped :-)

Problem solved: you have to run in a console a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure
fontconfig-config', then you are prompted if you like to use (also)
bitmapfonts. Answer with "yes" and run after that a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure
fontconfig'. Then the bitmapfonts are visible in the fonts folders and the
applications.

Never seen that before in any other distribution that the user has to enable
explicit the bitmap fonts. And don't ask me for the sense.

Martin.
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