On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:30:48 +0100 Trevor Best
wrote:

> I just installed my old Turtle Beach SantaCruz and got myself some 5.1
> speakers. How do I enable 5.1 as I only have 2.1 sound at the moment,
> i.e. Centre and rear speakers are quiet (yes, they are plugged in
> right, I tested them on another OS)

> Sound chip is identified as a Cirrus Logic CS4297A if that helps.

This sounds perfect candidate for some of Doug Jamal's magic from:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3290917

(:

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:51:41 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:30:48 +0100 Trevor Best
> wrote:
>
> > I just installed my old Turtle Beach SantaCruz and got myself some 5.1
> > speakers. How do I enable 5.1 as I only have 2.1 sound at the moment,
> > i.e. Centre and rear speakers are quiet (yes, they are plugged in
> > right, I tested them on another OS)
>
> > Sound chip is identified as a Cirrus Logic CS4297A if that helps.
>
> This sounds perfect candidate for some of Doug Jamal's magic from:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3290917

Wow, looks like a weekend job, thanks.

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:18:10 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:
> > Trevor Best wrote:

> > > I just installed my old Turtle Beach SantaCruz and got myself
> > > some 5.1 speakers. How do I enable 5.1 as I only have 2.1 sound
> > > at the moment, i.e. Centre and rear speakers are quiet (yes, they
> > > are plugged in right, I tested them on another OS)

> > > Sound chip is identified as a Cirrus Logic CS4297A if that helps.

> > This sounds perfect candidate for some of Doug Jamal's magic from:

> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3290917

> Wow, looks like a weekend job, thanks.

Did you "git 'her done"? (:

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:53:38 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:18:10 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:
>
> > Little Girl wrote:
> > > Trevor Best wrote:
>
> > > > I just installed my old Turtle Beach SantaCruz and got myself
> > > > some 5.1 speakers. How do I enable 5.1 as I only have 2.1 sound
> > > > at the moment, i.e. Centre and rear speakers are quiet (yes, they
> > > > are plugged in right, I tested them on another OS)
>
> > > > Sound chip is identified as a Cirrus Logic CS4297A if that helps.
>
> > > This sounds perfect candidate for some of Doug Jamal's magic from:
>
> > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3290917
>
> > Wow, looks like a weekend job, thanks.
>
> Did you "git 'her done"? (:
>

No. Most of that went over my head, I may have read it out of context
however. If there was a configuration file to modify I haven't found it
yet.

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Stan Laurel

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:59:37 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > Did you "git 'her done"? (:

> No. Most of that went over my head, I may have read it out of context
> however. If there was a configuration file to modify I haven't found
> it yet.

This might make it a little easier:

http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/soundproblems.txt

It's the two posts I saved in which Doug Jamal participated and helped
jabiru with a sound problem, providing an example of how to fix it.
There's also the above link followed by the information at the link so
it's all in one place. (:

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:36:13 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:59:37 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:
>
> > Little Girl wrote:
>
> > > Did you "git 'her done"? (:
>
> > No. Most of that went over my head, I may have read it out of context
> > however. If there was a configuration file to modify I haven't found
> > it yet.
>
> This might make it a little easier:
>
> http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/soundproblems.txt
>
> It's the two posts I saved in which Doug Jamal participated and helped
> jabiru with a sound problem, providing an example of how to fix it.
> There's also the above link followed by the information at the link so
> it's all in one place. (:
>

Thanks, I think the bit that confused me was that I could not find a
file called alsa-base, but synaptic said I had it installed so I was
wondering if "alsa-base" was a suite of files.

That post pointed right to it, something solid at last.

Shame it says to reboot though, I feel like a windows user :-\

I'll let you know if it worked later (I'm not rebooting now).

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Stan Laurel

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:36:13 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:59:37 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:
>
> > Little Girl wrote:
>
> > > Did you "git 'her done"? (:
>
> > No. Most of that went over my head, I may have read it out of context
> > however. If there was a configuration file to modify I haven't found
> > it yet.
>
> This might make it a little easier:
>
> http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/soundproblems.txt
>
> It's the two posts I saved in which Doug Jamal participated and helped
> jabiru with a sound problem, providing an example of how to fix it.
> There's also the above link followed by the information at the link so
> it's all in one place. (:
>

I added
"options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack"
to alsa-base to no avail, I'm wondering if I need different options for
my card

<------------------
trevor@voyager:~$ aplay -l | grep "card"
card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 0: CS46xx [CS46xx]
card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 1: CS46xx - Rear [CS46xx - Rear]
card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 2: CS46xx - IEC958 [CS46xx - IEC958]
card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 3: CS46xx - Center LFE [CS46xx - Center LFE]
trevor@voyager:~$ lspci | grep Audio
01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01)
--------------------->

the aplay command lists 31 subdevices as well on all but the IEC958, which had 1.

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:07:52 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:36:13 -0400
> Little Girl wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:59:37 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:
> >
> > > Little Girl wrote:
> >
> > > > Did you "git 'her done"? (:
> >
> > > No. Most of that went over my head, I may have read it out of
> > > context however. If there was a configuration file to modify I
> > > haven't found it yet.
> >
> > This might make it a little easier:
> >
> > http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/soundproblems.txt
> >
> > It's the two posts I saved in which Doug Jamal participated and
> > helped jabiru with a sound problem, providing an example of how to
> > fix it. There's also the above link followed by the information at
> > the link so it's all in one place. (:
> >
>
> I added
> "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack"
> to alsa-base to no avail, I'm wondering if I need different options
> for my card

I got the impression that you had five rather than three. If so, then
you might want to try any of the many versions of the command for
5stack (or maybe basic or auto) from the page that was referenced.
Possibly just changing 3stack to 5stack in the line above would do it.
You might have to tinker. I think the references were more of an
example to follow than a strict guide. Also, there may be similar info
for your specific hardware, but maybe this stuff will work. (:

Model name Description
---------- -----------
ALC880
5stack 5-jack in back, 2-jack in front
5stack-digout 5-jack in back, 2-jack in front, a SPDIF out

ALC260
ALC262
ALC882/885
ALC883/888
ALC861/660
ALC861VD/660VD
AD1988
auto auto-config reading BIOS (default)


CMI9880
allout 5-jack in back, 2-jack in front, SPDIF out

AD1984
basic default configuration

STAC9220/9221
5stack D945 5stack + SPDIF

STAC9227/9228/9229/927x
5stack D965 5stack + SPDIF

> <------------------
> trevor@voyager:~$ aplay -l | grep "card"
> card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 0: CS46xx [CS46xx]
> card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 1: CS46xx - Rear [CS46xx
> - Rear] card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device 2: CS46xx -
> IEC958 [CS46xx - IEC958] card 0: CS46xx [Sound Fusion CS46xx], device
> 3: CS46xx - Center LFE [CS46xx - Center LFE] trevor@voyager:~$ lspci
> | grep Audio 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS
> 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01)
> --------------------->

Too bad this specific brand isn't mentioned on that page. That would
solve everything!

> the aplay command lists 31 subdevices as well on all but the IEC958,
> which had 1.

OMG, on both of the commands you issued above I got a very brief
one-line output. This laptop is absolutely pathetic on sound. I'll tell
you what, just pack up that sound system, mail it to me and I'll find a
way to get her up and running. Then, if I don't *like* it, I'll send it
back. How's that? (:

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:10:24 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> Too bad this specific brand isn't mentioned on that page. That would
> solve everything!

It is here
http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/tru...ard_addons.ycp
so I tried a few variations of
options snd-cs46xx model=5stack position_fix=1
options snd-cs46xx model=auto position_fix=3

Also snd_cs46xx, then I was using
$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
to restart sound, no difference. This morning I had no sound so
restored it the way it was and rebooted, seems that restart doesn't
restart the sound using the new config.


> > the aplay command lists 31 subdevices as well on all but the IEC958,
> > which had 1.
>
> OMG, on both of the commands you issued above I got a very brief
> one-line output. This laptop is absolutely pathetic on sound. I'll tell
> you what, just pack up that sound system, mail it to me and I'll find a
> way to get her up and running. Then, if I don't *like* it, I'll send it
> back. How's that? (:

sounds like a plan

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Stan Laurel

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:26:36 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/soundproblems.txt

> > It's the two posts I saved in which Doug Jamal participated and
> > helped jabiru with a sound problem, providing an example of how to
> > fix it. There's also the above link followed by the information at
> > the link so it's all in one place. (:

> Thanks, I think the bit that confused me was that I could not find a
> file called alsa-base, but synaptic said I had it installed so I was
> wondering if "alsa-base" was a suite of files.

Apparently alsa-base is a package containing the ALSA driver
configuration files.

Long version:

apt-cache show alsa-base

> That post pointed right to it, something solid at last.

> Shame it says to reboot though, I feel like a windows user :-\

(:

> I'll let you know if it worked later (I'm not rebooting now).

I'll cross my fingers for you!

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:28:31 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > Too bad this specific brand isn't mentioned on that page. That would
> > solve everything!

> It is here
> http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/tru...ard_addons.ycp

Well, according to that page, the snd-cs46xx is definitely right, so it
has to be something else...

> so I tried a few variations of
> options snd-cs46xx model=5stack position_fix=1
> options snd-cs46xx model=auto position_fix=3

What happens if you just do one of these?

options snd-cs46xx model=5stack
options snd-cs46xx model=auto

Also, although they're different models than the one you have, there
were other Turtle Beach cards on that page. You might want to try one
of their commands instead just to see if they kick it in the butt.

> Also snd_cs46xx, then I was using
> $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
> to restart sound, no difference. This morning I had no sound so
> restored it the way it was and rebooted, seems that restart doesn't
> restart the sound using the new config.

Oh no! Tell me you got your sound back at least!

Meanwhile, here are a couple of promising looking pages for a different
approach. Here's hoping one of them works:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1817.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216542

> > > the aplay command lists 31 subdevices as well on all but the
> > > IEC958, which had 1.

> > OMG, on both of the commands you issued above I got a very brief
> > one-line output. This laptop is absolutely pathetic on sound. I'll
> > tell you what, just pack up that sound system, mail it to me and
> > I'll find a way to get her up and running. Then, if I don't *like*
> > it, I'll send it back. How's that? (:

> sounds like a plan

Overnight air, please. (:

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:06:06 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> What happens if you just do one of these?
>
> options snd-cs46xx model=5stack
> options snd-cs46xx model=auto

The sound card is not detected upon startup :-\

> Also, although they're different models than the one you have, there
> were other Turtle Beach cards on that page. You might want to try one
> of their commands instead just to see if they kick it in the butt.

I would if it weren't for having to reboot all the time, it gets a bit
boring after 4 or 5 reboots.

$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart

doesn't seem to have an effect, if I'm playing something at the time it
interrupts the sound but doesn't really re-read the alsa-base.

> Oh no! Tell me you got your sound back at least!

When I revert the alsa-base back to normal, yes.

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:12:12 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > What happens if you just do one of these?

> > options snd-cs46xx model=5stack
> > options snd-cs46xx model=auto

> The sound card is not detected upon startup :-\

Well, darn. You'd think one of these would have done it.

> > Also, although they're different models than the one you have, there
> > were other Turtle Beach cards on that page. You might want to try
> > one of their commands instead just to see if they kick it in the
> > butt.

> I would if it weren't for having to reboot all the time, it gets a bit
> boring after 4 or 5 reboots.

Must... resist...

(:

> $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart

> doesn't seem to have an effect, if I'm playing something at the time
> it interrupts the sound but doesn't really re-read the alsa-base.

Doesn't that right there indicate that something's not quite right?

> > Oh no! Tell me you got your sound back at least!

> When I revert the alsa-base back to normal, yes.

Aw. Did you try the alternative approach that was in the link I put in
the last message? It might be something as simple as that. (:

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:35:43 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:12:12 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:
>
> > Little Girl wrote:
>
> > > What happens if you just do one of these?
>
> > > options snd-cs46xx model=5stack
> > > options snd-cs46xx model=auto
>
> > The sound card is not detected upon startup :-\
>
> Well, darn. You'd think one of these would have done it.

It is my model but the very mention of snd-cs46xx in alsa-base seems to
turn it off :-(

> > $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
>
> > doesn't seem to have an effect, if I'm playing something at the time
> > it interrupts the sound but doesn't really re-read the alsa-base.
>
> Doesn't that right there indicate that something's not quite right?

Possibly but I'm not 100% sure what it's supposed to re-read it or not.

> > > Oh no! Tell me you got your sound back at least!
>
> > When I revert the alsa-base back to normal, yes.
>
> Aw. Did you try the alternative approach that was in the link I put in
> the last message? It might be something as simple as that. (:

Yes, but unfortunately it wasn't.

Thanks for the help anyway, at least I still have sound.


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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:55:14 +0100, Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:
> > Trevor Best wrote:
> > > Little Girl wrote:

> > Well, darn. You'd think one of these would have done it.

> It is my model but the very mention of snd-cs46xx in alsa-base seems
> to turn it off :-(

The for heaven's sake, don't say it! (:

> > > > Oh no! Tell me you got your sound back at least!

> > > When I revert the alsa-base back to normal, yes.

> > Aw. Did you try the alternative approach that was in the link I put
> > in the last message? It might be something as simple as that. (:

> Yes, but unfortunately it wasn't.

> Thanks for the help anyway, at least I still have sound.

You're not alone. It looks like a lot of people have trouble with this
particular module. Have you tried disabling ACPI? It supposedly worked
for one person.

Also, ALSA has a wiki page with some good information:

http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ

And last but not least, ALSA also has a page on how to set up 5.1
surround:

http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Pl...up_%28Howto%29

I haven't given up on this yet. (:

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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:58:26 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> > It is my model but the very mention of snd-cs46xx in alsa-base seems
> > to turn it off :-(
>
> The for heaven's sake, don't say it! (:

Like Macbeth? D'oh!

> You're not alone. It looks like a lot of people have trouble with this
> particular module. Have you tried disabling ACPI? It supposedly worked
> for one person.
>
> Also, ALSA has a wiki page with some good information:
>
> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ
>
> And last but not least, ALSA also has a page on how to set up 5.1
> surround:
>
> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Pl...up_%28Howto%29
>
> I haven't given up on this yet. (:

I'll give these a try over the weekend, I'll have to put the card back
in as I whipped it out diagnosing another problem then I'll have to
disable the internal sound if I can eventually get into the BIOS setup,
takes about 10 goes of hammering the DEL key while rebooting. Oh for a
win fall, I'll just go to Alienware and get a new PC :-)

--
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except reach high things because you're dinky.
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Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > > It is my model but the very mention of snd-cs46xx in alsa-base
> > > seems to turn it off :-(

> > Then for heaven's sake, don't say it! (:

> Like Macbeth? D'oh!

Can you tell I never read Macbeth? (:

> > You're not alone. It looks like a lot of people have trouble with
> > this particular module. Have you tried disabling ACPI? It
> > supposedly worked for one person.

> > Also, ALSA has a wiki page with some good information:

> > http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ

> > And last but not least, ALSA also has a page on how to set up 5.1
> > surround:

> > http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Pl...up_%28Howto%29

> > I haven't given up on this yet. (:

> I'll give these a try over the weekend, I'll have to put the card back
> in as I whipped it out diagnosing another problem then I'll have to
> disable the internal sound if I can eventually get into the BIOS
> setup, takes about 10 goes of hammering the DEL key while rebooting.

Aw, don't go stuffing the card back in if you've already moved on to
other hardware! All that Whack-A-Mole practice in the good old days
comes in handy when going for that delete key!

> Oh for a win fall, I'll just go to Alienware and get a new PC :-)

Now that's just plain cheating. (:

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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:37:49 -0400
Little Girl wrote:

> > > Then for heaven's sake, don't say it! (:
>
> > Like Macbeth? D'oh!
>
> Can you tell I never read Macbeth? (:

Nor me, but actors think it bad luck to mention it :-)

> Aw, don't go stuffing the card back in if you've already moved on to
> other hardware! All that Whack-A-Mole practice in the good old days
> comes in handy when going for that delete key!

But the other hardware (nForce2) sounds like a cat being
shredded in a cheese grater in comparison to the SantaCruz...

> > Oh for a win fall, I'll just go to Alienware and get a new PC :-)
>
> Now that's just plain cheating. (:

Not likely to happen on my budget though :-(

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except reach high things because you're dinky.
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Trevor Best wrote:

> Little Girl wrote:

> > > > Then for heaven's sake, don't say it! (:

> > > Like Macbeth? D'oh!

> > Can you tell I never read Macbeth? (:

> Nor me, but actors think it bad luck to mention it :-)

I'll take your word for it. (:

> > Aw, don't go stuffing the card back in if you've already moved on to
> > other hardware! All that Whack-A-Mole practice in the good old days
> > comes in handy when going for that delete key!

> But the other hardware (nForce2) sounds like a cat being
> shredded in a cheese grater in comparison to the SantaCruz...

That's what we like to refer to in the bizzzzness as motivation!

> > > Oh for a win fall, I'll just go to Alienware and get a new PC :-)

> > Now that's just plain cheating. (:

> Not likely to happen on my budget though :-(

Good! Now get to work! (:

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There is no spoon.

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