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  1. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    Verily I say unto thee, that Peter Köhlmann spake thusly:
    > Peter Köhlmann wrote:
    >
    > < snip >
    >
    >>> No **** - there are people in there who actually believe that Linux has
    >>> 90% of the Corporate desktop. I kid you not. Drop in. The water is
    >>> lovely.

    >> Naturally, Hadron Quark is making this up. Completely out of full cloth
    >>

    >
    > And as usual, Hadron Quark has no answer. He makes some grandiose claim,
    > hoping that nobody in alt.os.linux.ubuntu would notice that he is just
    > simply lying as he usually does
    >
    > Come on, lying cretin, provide Msg-IDs for your claim that "there are people
    > in there who actually believe that Linux has 90% of the Corporate desktop"


    It was a /question/, not a /statement/:

    "Dunno about the military or government, but didn't you post a link some
    time ago that showed something like 90(ish)% of German businesses use
    GNU/Linux?"

    Message-ID: <8odcq4-64c.ln1@sky.matrix>

    I found the original reference, it turned out to not be specifically
    about GNU/Linux, but was actually referring to Apache:

    "Apache has market share of 73.4% (91.74% in Germany)."

    Message-ID: <18830770.qg50KCecRn@schestowitz.com>

    Here's the link it points to:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070620/20070620005279.html?.v=1

    The title of that page is "Linux-Based Website Beats Windows-Based Sites".

    Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a /statement/.

    Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an idiot and
    a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?

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  2. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    [H]omer wrote:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that Peter Köhlmann spake thusly:
    >> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
    >>
    >> < snip >
    >>
    >>>> No **** - there are people in there who actually believe that Linux has
    >>>> 90% of the Corporate desktop. I kid you not. Drop in. The water is
    >>>> lovely.
    >>> Naturally, Hadron Quark is making this up. Completely out of full cloth
    >>>

    >>
    >> And as usual, Hadron Quark has no answer. He makes some grandiose claim,
    >> hoping that nobody in alt.os.linux.ubuntu would notice that he is just
    >> simply lying as he usually does
    >>
    >> Come on, lying cretin, provide Msg-IDs for your claim that "there are
    >> people in there who actually believe that Linux has 90% of the Corporate
    >> desktop"

    >
    > It was a /question/, not a /statement/:
    >
    > "Dunno about the military or government, but didn't you post a link some
    > time ago that showed something like 90(ish)% of German businesses use
    > GNU/Linux?"
    >
    > Message-ID: <8odcq4-64c.ln1@sky.matrix>
    >
    > I found the original reference, it turned out to not be specifically
    > about GNU/Linux, but was actually referring to Apache:
    >
    > "Apache has market share of 73.4% (91.74% in Germany)."
    >
    > Message-ID: <18830770.qg50KCecRn@schestowitz.com>
    >
    > Here's the link it points to:
    >
    > http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070620/20070620005279.html?.v=1
    >
    > The title of that page is "Linux-Based Website Beats Windows-Based Sites".
    >
    > Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a /statement/.
    >
    > Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an idiot and
    > a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?
    >


    No matter if Hadron Quark can't tell that difference, he completely
    misrepresented what was written and then claimed his balderdash as
    indication of how wacky colas linux advocates are.

    In short: Hadron Quark tried, and accomplished, to be as dishonest as Snot
    --
    Law of Probable Dispersal:
    Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.


  3. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    In article , "[H]omer" wrote:
    > It was a /question/, not a /statement/:
    >
    > "Dunno about the military or government, but didn't you post a link some
    > time ago that showed something like 90(ish)% of German businesses use
    > GNU/Linux?"
    >
    > Message-ID: <8odcq4-64c.ln1@sky.matrix>


    You have to be careful with statements like that: what does it mean to
    "use" Linux?

    It reminds me of a statistic that floated around the OS/2 groups a few
    years ago. This was at the point when IBM had stopped active OS/2
    development, and was only coming out with the occasional bug fix for
    those under long-term support contracts. IBM was actively telling their
    OS/2 customers to move to other systems.

    Yet there were still some people, especially in the OS2 advocacy group,
    who were convinced that OS/2 was so important to IBM that IBM would
    reverse course any day, and jump back in enthusiastically into the
    desktop market with it.

    One of the things these people liked to cite was a report that showed
    that something like $30 billion of IBM's revenue came from companies
    that used OS/2 (that was something like 60% of IBM's revenue at the
    time).

    Impressive, right? Except it was revenue from companies that used OS/2,
    not revenue from the use of OS/2. In other words, if a company had
    10000 computers, and 1 of them ran OS/2, and the other 9999 ran Windows
    and used various IBM products, then that was a company that used OS/2,
    and *all* the revenue IBM made from that company counted toward that $30
    billion.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  4. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    "[H]omer" writes:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that Peter Köhlmann spake thusly:
    >> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
    >>
    >> < snip >
    >>
    >>>> No **** - there are people in there who actually believe that Linux has
    >>>> 90% of the Corporate desktop. I kid you not. Drop in. The water is
    >>>> lovely.
    >>> Naturally, Hadron Quark is making this up. Completely out of full cloth
    >>>

    >>
    >> And as usual, Hadron Quark has no answer. He makes some grandiose claim,
    >> hoping that nobody in alt.os.linux.ubuntu would notice that he is just
    >> simply lying as he usually does
    >>
    >> Come on, lying cretin, provide Msg-IDs for your claim that "there are people
    >> in there who actually believe that Linux has 90% of the Corporate desktop"

    >
    > It was a /question/, not a /statement/:
    >
    > "Dunno about the military or government, but didn't you post a link some
    > time ago that showed something like 90(ish)% of German businesses use
    > GNU/Linux?"


    Yup. That could have been it.

    >
    > Message-ID: <8odcq4-64c.ln1@sky.matrix>
    >
    > I found the original reference, it turned out to not be specifically
    > about GNU/Linux, but was actually referring to Apache:
    >
    > "Apache has market share of 73.4% (91.74% in Germany)."


    Where are these figures from?

    >
    > Message-ID: <18830770.qg50KCecRn@schestowitz.com>
    >
    > Here's the link it points to:
    >
    > http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070620/20070620005279.html?.v=1
    >
    > The title of that page is "Linux-Based Website Beats Windows-Based
    > Sites".


    "linux based" - it seems someone doesnt know it runs on Windows
    too. Doh.

    >
    > Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a /statement/.
    >
    > Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an idiot and
    > a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?


    And yet your reply has backed me up.


  5. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    Hadron wrote:

    > "[H]omer" writes:


    < snip >

    >> Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a /statement/.
    >>
    >> Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an idiot and
    >> a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?

    >
    > And yet your reply has backed me up.


    Actually, no, it hasn't.
    You claimed that "there are people in there who actually believe that Linux
    has 90% of the Corporate desktop" when talking about COLA

    What you now say is backing up your idiotic claim does nothing of that sort.
    It does not even talk about "Desktops".

    Which makes you a liar. Like your other claim of people saying in COLA
    that "linux is perfect". YOu have repeatedly told that lie, and you have
    repeatedly been corrected. Yet you feel no shame to repeat it *again* in
    the ubuntu group.

    Was it because you thought nobody would catch you with such a baldfaced
    lie, "true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile
    expert", "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "newsreader
    magician" and "hardware maven" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian
    O'Leary?

    --
    "SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons*
    why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and
    then."


  6. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    Verily I say unto thee, that Peter Köhlmann spake thusly:
    > Hadron wrote:
    >> "[H]omer" writes:


    >>> Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a
    >>> /statement/.
    >>>
    >>> Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an
    >>> idiot and a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?

    >>
    >> And yet your reply has backed me up.


    Eh???

    I disprove your bogus assertion, and that is somehow "backing you up"?

    Ridiculous moron. It's like arguing with a child.

    > Which makes you a liar.


    Either that or he's genuinely stupid.

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  7. Re: Hadron Quark lying as usual [Was: The trouble with Linux]

    "[H]omer" writes:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that Peter Köhlmann spake thusly:
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>> "[H]omer" writes:

    >
    >>>> Like I said, the "90%" quote was a /question/, *not* a
    >>>> /statement/.
    >>>>
    >>>> Presumably Hardon Quirk can't tell the difference. IOW he's an
    >>>> idiot and a liar, but we all knew that, didn't we?
    >>>
    >>> And yet your reply has backed me up.

    >
    > Eh???
    >
    > I disprove your bogus assertion, and that is somehow "backing you up"?
    >
    > Ridiculous moron. It's like arguing with a child.
    >
    >> Which makes you a liar.

    >
    > Either that or he's genuinely stupid.


    Go away, you pathetic, little man. Don't you have a blog to update about
    MS purposely murdering people's children?

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