Where to find nethack-qt or xnethack for OpenSuse 11.0? - Suse

It seems that for whatever reason Suse and OpenSuse have discontinued
support for graphical versions of nethack (nethack-qt, xnethack...) many
years ago, even though /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE still
mentions them. I can't find any working rpm packages for them for any
modern Suse version.

Do you have any suggestion where or how I could find these? I can't
even find their source so that I could compile them.

Juha Nieminen wrote:

> It seems that for whatever reason Suse and OpenSuse have discontinued
> support for graphical versions of nethack (nethack-qt, xnethack...) many
> years ago, even though /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE still
> mentions them. I can't find any working rpm packages for them for any
> modern Suse version.
>
> Do you have any suggestion where or how I could find these? I can't
> even find their source so that I could compile them.

As the newest version of nethack is 3.4.3 and this is what xnethack is
probably based on...............

This is probably the newest xnethack:

(shift + left click to download directly from link)


http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...-48.1.i586.rpm

Michael Soibelman wrote:

------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------
> This is probably the newest xnethack:
>
> (shift + left click to download directly from link)
>
>
>
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...-48.1.i586.rpm


No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
itself...

Michael Soibelman wrote:

> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>
> ------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------
>> This is probably the newest xnethack:
>>
>> (shift + left click to download directly from link)
>>
>>
>>
>
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...-48.1.i586.rpm
>
>
> No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
> itself...


Again no !!!

Those links are no good. So here is a page with several links at the bottom
of the page. I tried the upper most of these and it IS a good download
link...

Sorry ;-)


http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/SuSE/9....pm.760200.html

Of course this is just a front end to nethack so you'll need more.. I'll
see that I get these too and then I'll supply the links.

Michael Soibelman wrote:

> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>
> ------------------------------------snip--------------------------------------------
>> This is probably the newest xnethack:
>>
>> (shift + left click to download directly from link)
>>
>>
>>
>
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...-48.1.i586.rpm
>
>
> No !! Just left click.. Forgot this is to a page not the download
> itself...

Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....

Too much trouble for now...


Good luck buddy. Use Google and chase your own tail...

Michael Soibelman wrote:
> Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
> nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....
>
> Too much trouble for now...

Which is exactly why I'm asking here. I did do the google reasearch...

Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>> Didn't take long... to find out I'm chasing shadows. xnethack needs the
>> nethack rpm which needs nethack-common which needs nethack_binary....
>>
>> Too much trouble for now...
>
> Which is exactly why I'm asking here. I did do the google reasearch...

Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
repo:
http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/ope...rd/nethack.ymp

http://software.opensuse.org/search?...&p=1&q=nethack
or http://tinyurl.com/6jjzcj

houghi
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houghi wrote:
> Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
> repo:

I know, and I have it installed. I would like the X or QT version,
though.

(In fact, I wouldn't mind the Vulture's or noegnud version, but
trying to get those to compile, or finding a precompiled version for
linux, seemed to be absolutely hopeless.)

Juha Nieminen wrote:
>
>
> houghi wrote:
>> Not sure aboyt xnethack or nethack-qt, but nathack is in the standard
>> repo:
>
> I know, and I have it installed. I would like the X or QT version,
> though.
>
> (In fact, I wouldn't mind the Vulture's or noegnud version, but
> trying to get those to compile, or finding a precompiled version for
> linux, seemed to be absolutely hopeless.)

I just stated it because Michael said that it was so hard to compile
nethack. I have absolutely 0 time nvested in it, so this is just a wild
guess. Perhaps you could install nethack (and the sources of all that it
wants) and use that as a basis for the compiling of the rest.

That way you already have nethack as that seemed to be a problem as
well.

houghi
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I succeeded in installing an old xnethack by putting both the xnethack
and the nethack-common rpms from http://dir.filewatcher.com into a
directory, adding that directory as a repository to yast, and installing
xnethack.

Of course the program doesn't work. After opening a graphical window
and asking the initial data, it just ends with the errors:

Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct

Oops...
Program initialization has failed.
Report error to "root".
Dungeon description not valid.

So my original question stands.

I would like to make an additional question: Why has xnethack been
discontinued from OpenSuse?

Juha Nieminen wrote:
> I would like to make an additional question: Why has xnethack been
> discontinued from OpenSuse?

Two answers possible
1) Because not enaugh people wanted it
2) Because the makers of the code made it not (easibly) compilable
3) A combination of the above.

A search on google now points to websites that point to Usenet servers
(and show why google sucks big time)

I tried looking for the source to download, but after 5 minutes of
looking via google and via clusty.com all I found where old rpms or
references to SUSE and openSUSE.

From that I conclude that most likely there is no recenct xnethack
anymore. That also means that
/usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE must be updated.
Bug #440906

houghi
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Juha Nieminen wrote:

> I succeeded in installing an old xnethack by putting both the xnethack
> and the nethack-common rpms from http://dir.filewatcher.com into a
> directory, adding that directory as a repository to yast, and installing
> xnethack.
>
> Of course the program doesn't work. After opening a graphical window
> and asking the initial data, it just ends with the errors:
>
> Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct

On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:

* If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
/usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
windows to load them.

HTH

--
Huibert
"Hey! HEY! Curious cat, here!" -- Krosp I (GG)

Huibert Bol wrote:
>> Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
>
> On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:
>
> * If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
> /usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
> windows to load them.

But will that get rid of the errors, or only that one warning?

houghi wrote:
> From that I conclude that most likely there is no recenct xnethack
> anymore. That also means that
> /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE must be updated.
> Bug #440906

I would really prefer if rather than changing README.SuSE,
xnethack (and/or nethack-qt) would be brought back to life.
At least one person wants it! :P

(Although I like nethack, maybe I'm not retro enough, but
I just can't bear the ascii graphics...)

Juha Nieminen wrote:

> Huibert Bol wrote:
>>> Warning: Cannot convert string "nh10" to type FontStruct
>>
>> On the nethack site (www.nethack.org) there is the following reminder:
>>
>> * If you are running X11 copy the nh10.pcf and ibm.pcf font files from
>> /usr/games/lib/nethackdir to a X11 fonts directory (such as
>> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc) and run "mkfontdir", then restart X
>> windows to load them.
>
> But will that get rid of the errors, or only that one warning?

There was an error as well?

| Oops...
| Program initialization has failed.
| Report error to "root".
| Dungeon description not valid.

If nethack can't find it's data files, you need to point the environment
variable NETHACKDIR to the right directory.

You could also try the rpm's from www.nethack.org[1]. The qt one's is
for version 2, so that's unlikely to work, but the X11 installed OK. If
you want the tiled map, you need to add

NetHack.tile_file: x11tiles

to your .Xresources, and

option=windowtype:X11

in your .nethackrc.

[1] http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-linux.html

--
Huibert
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Juha Nieminen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> From that I conclude that most likely there is no recenct xnethack
>> anymore. That also means that
>> /usr/share/doc/packages/nethack/README.SuSE must be updated.
>> Bug #440906
>
> I would really prefer if rather than changing README.SuSE,
> xnethack (and/or nethack-qt) would be brought back to life.
> At least one person wants it! :P

Well, I gave the bug number. You could have asked to have it added
again. If you would have followed the bugreport, you would have seen
that they have solved the bug and removed the README.SuSE.

> (Although I like nethack, maybe I'm not retro enough, but
> I just can't bear the ascii graphics...)

I have no idea what it is. All I know that if I want something added to
openSUSE, I file a bugreport and see what happens. If nobody asks, then
nothing will happen. Some things get added, others get not added and
almost always with an explanation as to why.

Don't fight the decision. If you can not get it added, then this means
they have other things to do.

houghi
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On 01 Nov 2008 12:41:40 GMT, Juha Nieminen
wrote:

> (In fact, I wouldn't mind the Vulture's or noegnud version, but
>trying to get those to compile, or finding a precompiled version for
>linux, seemed to be absolutely hopeless.)

Go to http://software.opensuse.org/search and enter vulture and
presto, you will be presented with:

nethack-vultures
Vulture's Eye is a mouse-driven interface for NetHack that enhances
the visuals, audio and accessibility of the game, yet retains all the

Now a click on 1-click install and you've got what you wanted

Philipp

Philipp Thomas wrote:
> Go to http://software.opensuse.org/search and enter vulture and
> presto, you will be presented with:
>
> nethack-vultures
> Vulture's Eye is a mouse-driven interface for NetHack that enhances
> the visuals, audio and accessibility of the game, yet retains all the
>
> Now a click on 1-click install and you've got what you wanted

It indeed is so.

Vulture's Eye looks fancy but... Somehow the 2D tiled version of the
game is just somehow easier to play. You also have a much better view
of the entire map, so you can visualize better the entire level.

Given that it seems to be hopeless to get xnethack or nethack-qt to
work, I'm even tempted to try to cope with the good old ascii version...

On 05 Nov 2008 16:54:12 GMT, Juha Nieminen
wrote:

> Given that it seems to be hopeless to get xnethack or nethack-qt to
>work,

Why? When openSUSE 11.1 and SLES 11 are out of the door, I'll have a
look at xnethack and/or nethack-qt. Right now I'm rather busy and try
to spend my precious free time for something else then software.

Philipp

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:39:33 +0100, Philipp Thomas
wrote:

>When openSUSE 11.1 and SLES 11 are out of the door, I'll have a
>look at xnethack and/or nethack-qt.

So much for sticking to my words I went ahead and added nethack to
my home project on the OBS (homesmt/nethack). This is the nethack
package from 9.1 with the merged specs of 9.1 and factory but with
gnomehack removed.

Now let's see if the package builds without errors or if goofed with
the spec If the packages have built I'll post that here.

Philipp