CPU temperature monitoring in opensuse?

What program in opensuse (11.0_x64) will let me monitor the core
temperature of an Intel Q6600? I've tried ksensors (front end for
lm_sensors) which will show me the temperature of my hard drive but not
the CPU. I've also tried GKrellM and it shows hard drive and graphics
card temps, but not CPU. Is there something else that needs to be
configured somewhere in lm_sensors so that these front ends apps can see
the CPU temps? The motherboard is an Abit IP35Pro in case the chipset
matters....

I know there are lots of programs for that 'other' OS that will let you
read CPU temps so I'm thinking there *has* to be something in opensuse,
it's just I've no idea how to make it work!! I suspect I'm in the right
area with lm_sensors, but I just can't seem to figure it out.

2CA001 wrote:[color=blue]
> What program in opensuse (11.0_x64) will let me monitor the core
> temperature of an Intel Q6600? I've tried ksensors (front end for
> lm_sensors) which will show me the temperature of my hard drive but not
> the CPU. I've also tried GKrellM and it shows hard drive and graphics
> card temps, but not CPU. Is there something else that needs to be
> configured somewhere in lm_sensors so that these front ends apps can see
> the CPU temps? The motherboard is an Abit IP35Pro in case the chipset
> matters....
>
> I know there are lots of programs for that 'other' OS that will let you
> read CPU temps so I'm thinking there *has* to be something in opensuse,
> it's just I've no idea how to make it work!! I suspect I'm in the right
> area with lm_sensors, but I just can't seem to figure it out.[/color]

What I use is gkrellm. But remember that all fdirst needs to be
configured. Open a terminal and run `sensors`. I get something like:
houghi@pasta : sensors
w83627dhg-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
<snup volt, fanspeed, cpu and HD temperature>

Now if you don't see that, most likely you have not configured the
measurement yet. As root run `sensors-detect`. and click [ENTER] about
27 gazillion times and then do what it says at the end.

Now run `sensors` again and see of you now do have the data.

With me the video cards are not in sensors, but they where available in
gkrellm right from the start.

The reason is that the data for my video card (and your HD) is retrieved
from elsewhere.

houghi
--[color=blue]
> Knock-knock.
> Who's there?
> Under the Patriot Act, we don't have to tell you that.[/color]

houghi wrote:[color=blue]
> 2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> What program in opensuse (11.0_x64) will let me monitor the core
>> temperature of an Intel Q6600? I've tried ksensors (front end for
>> lm_sensors) which will show me the temperature of my hard drive but not
>> the CPU. I've also tried GKrellM and it shows hard drive and graphics
>> card temps, but not CPU. Is there something else that needs to be
>> configured somewhere in lm_sensors so that these front ends apps can see
>> the CPU temps? The motherboard is an Abit IP35Pro in case the chipset
>> matters....
>>
>> I know there are lots of programs for that 'other' OS that will let you
>> read CPU temps so I'm thinking there *has* to be something in opensuse,
>> it's just I've no idea how to make it work!! I suspect I'm in the right
>> area with lm_sensors, but I just can't seem to figure it out.[/color]
>
> What I use is gkrellm. But remember that all fdirst needs to be
> configured. Open a terminal and run `sensors`. I get something like:
> houghi@pasta : sensors
> w83627dhg-isa-0290
> Adapter: ISA adapter
> <snup volt, fanspeed, cpu and HD temperature>
>
> Now if you don't see that, most likely you have not configured the
> measurement yet. As root run `sensors-detect`. and click [ENTER] about
> 27 gazillion times and then do what it says at the end.
>
> Now run `sensors` again and see of you now do have the data.
>
> With me the video cards are not in sensors, but they where available in
> gkrellm right from the start.
>
> The reason is that the data for my video card (and your HD) is retrieved
> from elsewhere.[/color]

Ah, you're a good man Houghi..... you're getting me closer!!.....
sensors was not installed (but lm_sensors was). I've now installed
sensors, ran sensors-detect which added these two lines to the
/etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors file

MODULE_0=w83627ehf
MODULE_1=coretemp

However gkrellm or ksensors still don't shows the cpu temperature and
there still doesn't appear to be an option in the menus (yes, I
restarted each app after running sensors-detect). Now what am I
missing? :(

2CA001 wrote:[color=blue]
> Ah, you're a good man Houghi..... you're getting me closer!!.....
> sensors was not installed (but lm_sensors was). I've now installed
> sensors, ran sensors-detect which added these two lines to the
> /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors file
>
> MODULE_0=w83627ehf
> MODULE_1=coretemp
>
> However gkrellm or ksensors still don't shows the cpu temperature and
> there still doesn't appear to be an option in the menus (yes, I
> restarted each app after running sensors-detect). Now what am I
> missing? :([/color]

Starting lm_sensors. Yast, System, System Services (Runlevel), Expert
mode and see that it is on in eunlevels 2, 3 and 5. You can also start
it there or do as root `rclm_sensors start`

I thought that was explained at the end of running sensors-detect.

houghi
--[color=blue]
> Knock-knock.
> Who's there?
> Under the Patriot Act, we don't have to tell you that.[/color]

houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
>2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> What program in opensuse (11.0_x64) will let me monitor the core
>> temperature of an Intel Q6600? I've tried ksensors (front end for
>> lm_sensors) which will show me the temperature of my hard drive but not
>> the CPU. I've also tried GKrellM and it shows hard drive and graphics
>> card temps, but not CPU. Is there something else that needs to be
>> configured somewhere in lm_sensors so that these front ends apps can see
>> the CPU temps? The motherboard is an Abit IP35Pro in case the chipset
>> matters....
>>
>> I know there are lots of programs for that 'other' OS that will let you
>> read CPU temps so I'm thinking there *has* to be something in opensuse,
>> it's just I've no idea how to make it work!! I suspect I'm in the right
>> area with lm_sensors, but I just can't seem to figure it out.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>What I use is gkrellm. But remember that all fdirst needs to be
>configured. Open a terminal and run `sensors`. I get something like:
>houghi@pasta : sensors
>w83627dhg-isa-0290
>Adapter: ISA adapter
><snup volt, fanspeed, cpu and HD temperature>[/color]
[color=blue]
>Now if you don't see that, most likely you have not configured the
>measurement yet. As root run `sensors-detect`. and click [ENTER] about
>27 gazillion times and then do what it says at the end.[/color]
[color=blue]
>Now run `sensors` again and see of you now do have the data.[/color]
[color=blue]
>With me the video cards are not in sensors, but they where available in
>gkrellm right from the start.[/color]
[color=blue]
>The reason is that the data for my video card (and your HD) is retrieved
>from elsewhere.[/color]


gans@home:~> sensors
No sensors found!
Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
gans@home:~> sensors-detect
bash: sensors-detect: command not found
gans@home:~>

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> gans@home:~> sensors-detect[color=blue]
> bash: sensors-detect: command not found[/color]

run sensors-detect as root, thusly:

su -
[type root pass when asked]
sensors-detect

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Paul J Gans wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>Now if you don't see that, most likely you have not configured the
>>measurement yet. As root run `sensors-detect`. and click [ENTER] about
>>27 gazillion times and then do what it says at the end.[/color][/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
> gans@home:~> sensors
> No sensors found!
> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
> gans@home:~> sensors-detect
> bash: sensors-detect: command not found
> gans@home:~>[/color]

So have you ran `sensors-detect` as root? Alsp you must then run
`rclm_sensors start` to run it and add it so that it is launched each
and every time you boot.


houghi
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DenverD <"spam.trap\\REMOVE \"at\" SOME\\texan.dk"> writes:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> gans@home:~> sensors-detect
>> bash: sensors-detect: command not found[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>run sensors-detect as root, thusly:[/color]
[color=blue]
>su -
>[type root pass when asked]
>sensors-detect[/color]

Of course if he has not installed lm_sensors that will not help. But yes,
it needs to be run by root.

> Of course if he has not installed lm_sensors that will not help. But yes,[color=blue]
> it needs to be run by root.[/color]

good observation, but to me his first posting was clear that it was
already installed..

and since i expected it to be installed as /usr/sbin i knew it would
*not* be found from a user command prompt...therefore, i told him (as
had houghi previously) to run it in a way in which it _could_ be both
found _and_ do what needed to be done..

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houghi wrote:[color=blue]
> 2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> Ah, you're a good man Houghi..... you're getting me closer!!.....
>> sensors was not installed (but lm_sensors was). I've now installed
>> sensors, ran sensors-detect which added these two lines to the
>> /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors file
>>
>> MODULE_0=w83627ehf
>> MODULE_1=coretemp
>>
>> However gkrellm or ksensors still don't shows the cpu temperature and
>> there still doesn't appear to be an option in the menus (yes, I
>> restarted each app after running sensors-detect). Now what am I
>> missing? :([/color]
>
> Starting lm_sensors. Yast, System, System Services (Runlevel), Expert
> mode and see that it is on in eunlevels 2, 3 and 5. You can also start
> it there or do as root `rclm_sensors start`
>
> I thought that was explained at the end of running sensors-detect.[/color]

Ah, got it, I was missing the 'rclm_sensors start'. All is monitoring
fine now. Thanks again.

Now, when I load up all four processors with BOINC projects the four
cores range from 66-72C which seems a bit excessive considering I have a
Thermaltake CL-P0401 on top of the Q6600 which should keep it a lot
cooler than that. I might try reinstalling the cooler as something is
clearly not right! The whole reason for this exercise was to find out
what the core temps were as I was getting the occasional random lockup
of the machine. Also of interest is some of the voltages which seem to
be way off.... gkrellm says the +12V is 5.84V, the -12V is -7.55V and
the -5V is -3.26V. I didn't think it would run with the +12V that low
so maybe it's time to get the multimeter out to check the Antec NeoPower
550 which should be much closer to spec than that.... maybe the sensors
are reading off....

2CA001 wrote:[color=blue]
> Now, when I load up all four processors with BOINC projects the four
> cores range from 66-72C which seems a bit excessive considering I have a
> Thermaltake CL-P0401 on top of the Q6600 which should keep it a lot
> cooler than that. I might try reinstalling the cooler as something is
> clearly not right! The whole reason for this exercise was to find out
> what the core temps were as I was getting the occasional random lockup
> of the machine. Also of interest is some of the voltages which seem to
> be way off.... gkrellm says the +12V is 5.84V, the -12V is -7.55V and
> the -5V is -3.26V. I didn't think it would run with the +12V that low
> so maybe it's time to get the multimeter out to check the Antec NeoPower
> 550 which should be much closer to spec than that.... maybe the sensors
> are reading off....[/color]

Do a reboot and see in the bios if those temeratures are correct.

houghi
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I want all people to be genuinely grieving when I die.

houghi

houghi wrote:[color=blue]
> 2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> Now, when I load up all four processors with BOINC projects the four
>> cores range from 66-72C which seems a bit excessive considering I have a
>> Thermaltake CL-P0401 on top of the Q6600 which should keep it a lot
>> cooler than that. I might try reinstalling the cooler as something is
>> clearly not right! The whole reason for this exercise was to find out
>> what the core temps were as I was getting the occasional random lockup
>> of the machine. Also of interest is some of the voltages which seem to
>> be way off.... gkrellm says the +12V is 5.84V, the -12V is -7.55V and
>> the -5V is -3.26V. I didn't think it would run with the +12V that low
>> so maybe it's time to get the multimeter out to check the Antec NeoPower
>> 550 which should be much closer to spec than that.... maybe the sensors
>> are reading off....[/color]
>
> Do a reboot and see in the bios if those temeratures are correct.[/color]


Oh boy did I make a rookie error when I built this machine..... I'll be
hanging my head in shame for days!! I'm almost embarrassed to admit it
because I've built enough machines that I shouldn't be doing things like
this!! When I took the heatsink off the CPU to reseat it, to my horror
I saw that when I had built the machine a few months ago I had neglected
to remove the little bit of clear stuck on plastic that was used to
protect the copper bottom part of the heatsink where it makes contact
with the CPU (you know the stuff, like what's stuck on the front of the
displays of DVD players, iPODs etc). No wonder my temps were far higher
than they should have been.... I had an insulator between my cpu and
heatsink! Thank goodness recent CPUs have overtemperature protection
built in!

So, I removed the plastic, applied new heatsink compound, reinstalled
the heatsink and now I'm seeing full load temps of about 55C, some 17C
lower than before which is much more respectable!! Even the idle temps
are 5-6C lower at about 35C (the room is quite warm)!

And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not
reading the voltages correctly on an Abit IP35pro as I took out my
multimeter and measured the +12V rail at 12.16V (reported as 5.84) and
the -12V rail at -12.30V (reported as -7.55V). The BIOS reports the
voltages correctly though so it's a software issue and not an onboard
sensor issue.

Now to see if this thing still has the occasional random lockup.....

Thanks to all for getting me up and running with temperature monitoring
as it confirmed something was really wrong!!

2CA001 wrote:[color=blue]
> And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not
> reading the voltages correctly on an Abit IP35pro as I took out my
> multimeter and measured the +12V rail at 12.16V (reported as 5.84) and
> the -12V rail at -12.30V (reported as -7.55V). The BIOS reports the
> voltages correctly though so it's a software issue and not an onboard
> sensor issue.[/color]

You can chenche the settings of how it reads stuff. What sesors-detect
does is a lot of guessing. I get the following readings in gkrellm:
+12 = 6.32
-12 = -6.23

However I do not see those figures when I run sensors, so they come from
somewhere else and not lm_sensors

houghi
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On the Lake Geneva shoreline Were at the best place around
To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground

DenverD <"spam.trap\\REMOVE \"at\" SOME\\texan.dk"> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> gans@home:~> sensors-detect
>> bash: sensors-detect: command not found[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>run sensors-detect as root, thusly:[/color]
[color=blue]
>su -
>[type root pass when asked]
>sensors-detect[/color]

Thanks. Now why didn't *I* think of that. Must be
getting old...

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DenverD <"spam.trap\\REMOVE \"at\" SOME\\texan.dk"> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> Of course if he has not installed lm_sensors that will not help. But yes,
>> it needs to be run by root.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>good observation, but to me his first posting was clear that it was
>already installed..[/color]
[color=blue]
>and since i expected it to be installed as /usr/sbin i knew it would
>*not* be found from a user command prompt...therefore, i told him (as
>had houghi previously) to run it in a way in which it _could_ be both
>found _and_ do what needed to be done..[/color]

And for which I thank you again.

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houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> writes:
[color=blue]
>2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not
>> reading the voltages correctly on an Abit IP35pro as I took out my
>> multimeter and measured the +12V rail at 12.16V (reported as 5.84) and
>> the -12V rail at -12.30V (reported as -7.55V). The BIOS reports the
>> voltages correctly though so it's a software issue and not an onboard
>> sensor issue.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>You can chenche the settings of how it reads stuff. What sesors-detect
>does is a lot of guessing. I get the following readings in gkrellm:
>+12 = 6.32
>-12 = -6.23[/color]
[color=blue]
>However I do not see those figures when I run sensors, so they come from
>somewhere else and not lm_sensors[/color]

gkrellm has a renormalisation of the values-- click on the temperature to
get the config, and open the voltage list, and click on one of the
voltages-- see on the right the Factor and Offset.
Usually 1.0 is good for the first, but for some reason gkrellm guesses at
other factors.

[color=blue]
>houghi
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> On the Lake Geneva shoreline Were at the best place around
>To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
> We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground[/color]

On 2008-09-20, houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> 2CA001 wrote:[color=green]
>> And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not
>> reading the voltages correctly on an Abit IP35pro as I took out my
>> multimeter and measured the +12V rail at 12.16V (reported as 5.84) and
>> the -12V rail at -12.30V (reported as -7.55V). The BIOS reports the
>> voltages correctly though so it's a software issue and not an onboard
>> sensor issue.[/color]
>
> You can chenche the settings of how it reads stuff. What sesors-detect
> does is a lot of guessing. I get the following readings in gkrellm:
> +12 = 6.32
> -12 = -6.23
>
> However I do not see those figures when I run sensors, so they come from
> somewhere else and not lm_sensors
>[/color]

Gkrellm does not give me any disk temps.

I still get them from hddtemp.

I don't get any voltages from anywhere.
I don't get any fans from anywhere either.

So there are some sensors that are not found at all and there are
sensors that some programs find and some do not.

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Vahis wrote:[color=blue]
> Gkrellm does not give me any disk temps.[/color]

I get it from only 4 of the 6 HD drives, so it is also hardware related.
[color=blue]
> I still get them from hddtemp.[/color]

I do not have that program.
[color=blue]
> I don't get any voltages from anywhere.
> I don't get any fans from anywhere either.[/color]

Fans I only get one that is connected to the motherboard. On my other
motherboard, I only got one, not the two. Could be because I had more
then one connected to the mobo.
[color=blue]
> So there are some sensors that are not found at all and there are
> sensors that some programs find and some do not.[/color]

It is guestimating and pretty good, I would say. Many hardwarevendors do
strange thing and don't really bother to tell anybody.
For that reason, you can edit `man sensors` and `man sensors.conf` for
more information.

I asume you have ran `lm_sensors` and `rclm_sensors restart`

Here the complete output of sensors I get (Just want to show of that I
am able to do `r! sensors` in vim since 10 minutes.)
The CPU fan is actually a case fan that is connected. The CPU is cooled
with beer (or some other yellowish fluid)

w83627dhg-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore: +1.11 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.74 V)
in1: +5.60 V (min = +3.38 V, max = +5.33 V) ALARM
AVCC: +3.26 V (min = +0.53 V, max = +1.02 V) ALARM
3VCC: +3.26 V (min = +2.10 V, max = +0.77 V) ALARM
in4: +1.66 V (min = +1.54 V, max = +0.58 V) ALARM
in5: +1.69 V (min = +1.22 V, max = +2.04 V)
in6: +5.86 V (min = +0.77 V, max = +2.05 V) ALARM
VSB: +3.26 V (min = +0.02 V, max = +0.08 V) ALARM
VBAT: +2.98 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.02 V) ALARM
Case Fan: 0 RPM (min = 2109 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
CPU Fan: 1577 RPM (min = 2109 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
Aux Fan: 0 RPM (min = 10546 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
fan5: 0 RPM (min = 10546 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
Sys Temp: +36.0°C (high = +0.0°C, hyst = +33.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermistor
CPU Temp: +36.5°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = thermistor
AUX Temp: +46.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = thermistor
cpu0_vid: +2.300 V

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +44.0°C (high = +76.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1: +43.0°C (high = +76.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2: +45.0°C (high = +76.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3: +50.0°C (high = +76.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)


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Vahis <waxborg@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
[color=blue]
>On 2008-09-20, houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:[color=green]
>> 2CA001 wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not
>>> reading the voltages correctly on an Abit IP35pro as I took out my
>>> multimeter and measured the +12V rail at 12.16V (reported as 5.84) and
>>> the -12V rail at -12.30V (reported as -7.55V). The BIOS reports the
>>> voltages correctly though so it's a software issue and not an onboard
>>> sensor issue.[/color]
>>
>> You can chenche the settings of how it reads stuff. What sesors-detect
>> does is a lot of guessing. I get the following readings in gkrellm:
>> +12 = 6.32
>> -12 = -6.23
>>
>> However I do not see those figures when I run sensors, so they come from
>> somewhere else and not lm_sensors
>>[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Gkrellm does not give me any disk temps.[/color]
[color=blue]
>I still get them from hddtemp.[/color]

Then gkrellm can get them too.
[color=blue]
>I don't get any voltages from anywhere.
>I don't get any fans from anywhere either.[/color]
[color=blue]
>So there are some sensors that are not found at all and there are
>sensors that some programs find and some do not.[/color]

Yes, the lmsesors people have not figured how to get any temps or fan
speedsi (except cpu temps) on the new intel motherboards because intel has not been forthcoming
about the how to do so.


[color=blue]
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>[url]http://waxborg.servepics.com[/url]
>Congressman Wilson has an expression:
>"You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits."[/color]

On 2008-09-21, Unruh <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:[color=blue]
> Vahis <waxborg@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>[color=green]
>>On 2008-09-20, houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> 2CA001 wrote:
>>>> And just to close all this out, it appears that lm_sensors is not[/color][/color][/color]

<snip>[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>Gkrellm does not give me any disk temps.[/color]
>[color=green]
>>I still get them from hddtemp.[/color]
>
> Then gkrellm can get them too.[/color]

The hda temp is kinda there, it's empty and no other disks can be seen
anywhere. This is in configuration view.

The display shows hda 0 degrees.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>I don't get any voltages from anywhere.
>>I don't get any fans from anywhere either.[/color]
>[color=green]
>>So there are some sensors that are not found at all and there are
>>sensors that some programs find and some do not.[/color]
>
> Yes, the lmsesors people have not figured how to get any temps or fan
> speedsi (except cpu temps) on the new intel motherboards because intel has
> not been forthcoming about the how to do so.
>[/color]
Mine here is Asus P5Q, Intel P45 chips.

Anyway, gkrellm is nothing for me, It's whistles and bells IMHO.
I monitor via ssh/cli normally.

And while I'm next to the machine I'd smell the smoke :)

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Congressman Wilson has an expression:
"You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits."