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| I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... Thanks. |
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| Michael Soibelman >I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of >course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS >but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So That is an idiotic suggestion. By the time it has gotten to trying to boot from the mbr, it has stopped trying to boot from the CD. Ie, if that CD is unbootable, then that CD is unbootable, >I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. You are trying to delete the MBR why? >Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you >copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could >just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the >contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do >this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? >P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that >other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can >also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... Danger-- recovery disks have a tendency to erase everything on the disk, and simply write over a disk image. Ie, MAKE SURE YOU MAKE A BACKUP. |
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| Unruh wrote: > Michael Soibelman > >>I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >>I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >>if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, >>of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that >>other OS >>but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >>computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. >>So > > That is an idiotic suggestion. By the time it has gotten to trying to boot > from the mbr, it has stopped trying to boot from the CD. Ie, if that CD is > unbootable, then that CD is unbootable, > -------------------------------snip------------------------------------ That's EXACTLY what I thought too !! It's not bootable. It is just a recovery disk... So it seems to be un-bootable then. So someone's going to have to fork over ~$90.00 to buy a retail version of XP (newegg price). Thanks for confirming that. |
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| Michael Soibelman wrote: > I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and > I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know > if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of > course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS > but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this > computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So > I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. > Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you > copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could > just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the > contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do > this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? > > P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install > AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that > other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can > also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... > > > Thanks. Just install W2K and it will fix the MBR and you can install Autocad. THEN you can reinstall OpenSuSE and it will install grub to boot W2K or OpenSuSE. It don't matter if you use NTFS or FAT21 with W2K. W2K will only see 132gig until you install service pack 4 which is free, then change the big disk thing in registry. -- Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8 |
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| Michael Soibelman >Unruh wrote: >> Michael Soibelman >> >>>I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >>>I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >>>if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, >>>of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that >>>other OS >>>but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >>>computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. >>>So >> >> That is an idiotic suggestion. By the time it has gotten to trying to boot >> from the mbr, it has stopped trying to boot from the CD. Ie, if that CD is >> unbootable, then that CD is unbootable, >> >-------------------------------snip------------------------------------ >That's EXACTLY what I thought too !! It's not bootable. It is just a >recovery disk... So it seems to be un-bootable then. So someone's going >to have to fork over ~$90.00 to buy a retail version of XP (newegg price). >Thanks for confirming that. A recovery disk SHOULD be bootable. If not it would seem to be a defective disk-- get a new one from the people who sold you the computer. You have booted from CD you said on that machine, so that the bios is properly set up to boot from CD first and then from th ehard disk (obviously if it is set to boot from the hard disk first it will succeed at that and never boot from CD). It may be that that was what that suggestion was all about-- if your hard drive cannot be boot from then your bios might be set to boot from CD. Just change the order in your bios. On the other hand you said that you can boot from the SUSE CD which, if true, would put paid to the idea that you do not have the right order. |
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| Michael Soibelman wrote: > P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install > AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that > other OS AutoCAD should run on Linux. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ux&btnG=Search |
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| Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Michael Soibelman wrote: >> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >> AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in >> that other OS > > AutoCAD should run on Linux. > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ux&btnG=Search I misspoke. Should have said SolidWorks2008 |
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| On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:27:21 -0700, Michael Soibelman wrote: > I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box > and I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't > know if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It > will, of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of > that other OS but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the > owner of this computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot > from the CD. So I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate > retail version of W2K. Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember > with Windows98. There you copied certain files to the floppy and booted > from that. Then you could just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to > that) and it would delete the contents of the master boot record. I > don't see that on W2K. How do I do this with Linux or how do I do this > with W2000 ? > > P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install > AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in > that other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB > so he can also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... > > > Thanks. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 |
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| On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, ray wrote:- >On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:27:21 -0700, Michael Soibelman wrote: >> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >> AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in >> that other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB >> so he can also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 That will wipe out the partition table along with the boot loader and so necessitate a re-install of openSUSE, which isn't wanted from reading the what Michael wrote. Using: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=432 count=1 will wipe out any boot loader but retain the partition table, and so should only require a re-install of grub to get openSUSE booting again. Regards, David Bolt -- www.davjam.org/lifetype/ www.distributed.net: OGR@100Mnodes, RC5-72@15Mkeys SUSE 10.1 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | openSUSE 10.2 64b | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.11 |
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| Blattus Slafaly >Michael Soibelman wrote: >> I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >> I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >> if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of >> course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS >> but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >> computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So >> I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. >> Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you >> copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could >> just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the >> contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do >> this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? >> >> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >> AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that >> other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can >> also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... >> >> >> Thanks. >Just install W2K and it will fix the MBR and you can install Autocad. He cannot install W2K because the system will not boot from the rescue disk. >THEN you can reinstall OpenSuSE and it will install grub to boot W2K or >OpenSuSE. It don't matter if you use NTFS or FAT21 with W2K. W2K will >only see 132gig until you install service pack 4 which is free, then >change the big disk thing in registry. >-- >Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8 |
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| Michael Soibelman wrote: > I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and > I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know > if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of > course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS > but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this > computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So > I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. > Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you > copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could > just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the > contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do > this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? > > P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install > AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that > other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can > also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... > > > Thanks. On some recovery programs you first need to boot to floppy made with that program then access the cd/dvd to recover. What recovery program are you using? Dan Dangerous |
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| On 2008-08-13 23:23, Michael Soibelman wrote: > Unruh wrote: > >> Michael Soibelman >> >>> I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >>> I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >>> if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, >>> of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that >>> other OS >>> but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >>> computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. >>> So >> That is an idiotic suggestion. By the time it has gotten to trying to boot >> from the mbr, it has stopped trying to boot from the CD. Ie, if that CD is >> unbootable, then that CD is unbootable, >> > -------------------------------snip------------------------------------ > > That's EXACTLY what I thought too !! It's not bootable. It is just a > recovery disk... So it seems to be un-bootable then. So someone's going > to have to fork over ~$90.00 to buy a retail version of XP (newegg price). > > Thanks for confirming that. Do you think windows XP is the ultimate tool for fixing problems :-D In fact, even the most pro Microsoft guys often have a linux rescue cd or usb-stick in their toolbox to fix problems like this. If the machine refuse to boot from CD when a bootable hard disk exist, how are you going to boot the XP cd? If you make a boot floppy from XP, you are not allowed to share it, the license forbid it. If you can boot from the opensuse CD, just select rescue , and do what you like. Or make a boot floppy with the command dosbootdisk from another suse box, and that is free-DOS, which you can make unlimited copies of and give away. If not installed, mark next line and drop it drop into a text terminal: sudo /sbin/yast -i dosbootdisk eg. 3 fast leftclick on the line, move the mouse to a text terminal and click the middle mouse button and press enter. You are just fishing after problems, trying to find something you can't do instead of learning millions of things you can do. If you will avoid boot from disk, just toggle the active flag of the partition with fdisk. Why not echo broken disk > /dev/sda , and then try to boot from it :-) /bb |
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| Unruh wrote: > Blattus Slafaly > >> Michael Soibelman wrote: >>> I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >>> I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >>> if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of >>> course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS >>> but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >>> computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So >>> I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. >>> Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you >>> copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could >>> just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the >>> contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do >>> this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? >>> >>> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >>> AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that >>> other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can >>> also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... >>> >>> >>> Thanks. > >> Just install W2K and it will fix the MBR and you can install Autocad. > > He cannot install W2K because the system will not boot from the rescue > disk. > > >> THEN you can reinstall OpenSuSE and it will install grub to boot W2K or >> OpenSuSE. It don't matter if you use NTFS or FAT21 with W2K. W2K will >> only see 132gig until you install service pack 4 which is free, then >> change the big disk thing in registry. > >> -- >> Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8A legitimate retail version of W2K will boot. That's what he said he had. -- Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8 |
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| Michael Soibelman wrote: > I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and > I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know > if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, > of course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that > other OS > but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this > computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. > So > I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of > W2K. > Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There > you > copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could > just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the > contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do > this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? > > P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install > AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in > that > other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he > can > also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... > > > Thanks. There is another option. You could install VirtualBox on the Linux system and then install Windows as a virtual machine. Then install your CAD package in the windows environment. This is what I did for TurboTax. Its the only Windows application I could not find a replacement for. Also there are free CAD packages available for Linux. I tried qcad which is on the openSUSE DVD or repo. use the YaSt software manager and seach on CAD. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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| Blattus Slafaly >Unruh wrote: >> Blattus Slafaly >> >>> Michael Soibelman wrote: >>>> I want to delete the MBR of a disk. I am working on someone elses box and >>>> I'm trying to install that other OS from a 'recovery' disk. I don't know >>>> if this is possible as the computer will not boot from the CD. It will, of >>>> course, boot from a openSUSE disk or even a retail version of that other OS >>>> but NOT from the recovery disk.. Someone has told the owner of this >>>> computer to delete the MBR and the computer will then boot from the CD. So >>>> I'm trying to delete the MBR. I've got a legitimate retail version of W2K. >>>> Unfortunately this is not the same as I remember with Windows98. There you >>>> copied certain files to the floppy and booted from that. Then you could >>>> just type FDISK :\MBR (or something close to that) and it would delete the >>>> contents of the master boot record. I don't see that on W2K. How do I do >>>> this with Linux or how do I do this with W2000 ? >>>> >>>> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can install >>>> AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs to use in that >>>> other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will reinstall GRUB so he can >>>> also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real OS... >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >> >>> Just install W2K and it will fix the MBR and you can install Autocad. >> >> He cannot install W2K because the system will not boot from the rescue >> disk. >> >> >>> THEN you can reinstall OpenSuSE and it will install grub to boot W2K or >>> OpenSuSE. It don't matter if you use NTFS or FAT21 with W2K. W2K will >>> only see 132gig until you install service pack 4 which is free, then >>> change the big disk thing in registry. >> >>> -- >A legitimate retail version of W2K will boot. That's what he said he had. No. He said he has a Windows recovery disk. See the second line of his post. See the third line of his post. |
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| bb wrote: > > If you will avoid boot from disk, just toggle the active flag of the > partition with fdisk. > > Why not echo broken disk > /dev/sda , and then try to boot from it :-) > > /bb -------------------------snip-------------------------------------- Well, to everybody..thanks. I solved the problem. No the disk was not bootable...period. But I could start the disk in a running Windows OS and install from there... It wouldn't upgrade from 2000Professional but did allow for a new install. Thanks to David Bolt for the proper way to delete the MBR without losing all the partitioning... All is well. |
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| On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:58:58 +0100, David Bolt wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, ray wrote:- > >>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:27:21 -0700, Michael Soibelman wrote: > >>> P.S. When I complete the install of the other unnamed OS I can >>> install AutoCad for this person. Which is the ONLY program he needs >>> to use in that other OS (rhymes with 'I gotta pee'). Then I will >>> reinstall GRUB so he can also use openSUSE-11.0 !! Now that's a real >>> OS... > >>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 > > That will wipe out the partition table along with the boot loader and so > necessitate a re-install of openSUSE, which isn't wanted from reading > the what Michael wrote. Using: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=432 count=1 > > will wipe out any boot loader but retain the partition table, and so > should only require a re-install of grub to get openSUSE booting again. > > > Regards, > David Bolt You are right - I stand corrected. |
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#18
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| >>In fact, even the most pro Microsoft guys often have a linux rescue >>cd or usb-stick in their toolbox to fix problems like this. >> What is, in your opinion, the 'best' linx rescue CD available ? thanks in advance, T0M |
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| T0M wrote: >>> In fact, even the most pro Microsoft guys often have a linux rescue >>> cd or usb-stick in their toolbox to fix problems like this. >>> > > What is, in your opinion, the 'best' linx rescue CD available ? > > thanks in advance, From personal experience, the Knoppix and Gentoo live DVDs always had a good set of tools on them. |
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| On 2008-08-26 12:39, T0M wrote: >>> In fact, even the most pro Microsoft guys often have a linux rescue >>> cd or usb-stick in their toolbox to fix problems like this. >>> > > What is, in your opinion, the 'best' linx rescue CD available ? > > thanks in advance, > > T0M I don't know what is best, but I use http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page as one of my favorite tool. Packages in the CD: speakup-utils-1.0 leafpad-0.8.12 hcfpcimodem-1.15 hddtemp-0.3_beta15-r3 nano-2.1.1 hsfmodem-7.68.00.09 hwreport-0.9.4 qemacs-0.3.2_pre2007022 linux-atm-2.5.0 ide-smart-1.4 vim-7.1.266 lrzsz-0.12.20-r1 mbr-1.1.10 vim-core-7.1.266 mingetty-1.08 passook-1.0.0 zile-2.2.59 minicom-2.3-r1 pwgen-2.06 chkrootkit-0.47 ppp-2.4.4-r15 python-updater-0.2 cmospwd-4.6 pppconfig-2.3.17-r1 syslog-ng-2.0.9 foremost-1.5.3 pptpclient-1.7.1-r1 sysstat-8.0.4-r1 magicrescue-1.1.4-r1 rp-pppoe-3.8-r2 testdisk-6.9 sleuthkit-2.09 speedtouch-usb-3.0.1.2- clamav-0.93.1 beep-1.2.2-r1 bind-tools-9.4.1_p1 afio-2.5 ca-certificates-2007030 libidn-1.5-r1 arj-3.10.22-r1 ckermit-8.0.211-r2 iptables-1.3.8-r3 bzip2-1.0.5 colordiff-1.0.7 mount-cifs-3.0.30 cabextract-1.2 livecd-tools-1.0.39 nfs-utils-1.1.0-r1 cpio-2.9-r1 mc-4.6.1-r4 samba-3.0.28a-r1 dump-0.4.41 pax-utils-0.1.17 ftp-0.17-r7 gzip-1.3.12-r1 screen-4.0.3 lftp-3.7.1 lzma-utils-4.32.6 symlinks-1.2-r2 ncftp-3.2.1 lzop-1.02_rc1-r1 vlock-1.3-r2 tftp-hpa-0.48 mscompress-0.3 wipe-2.2.20050509 irssi-0.8.12 mt-st-0.9b bash-3.2_p33 mailbase-1 ncompress-4.2.4.2 ksh-93.20071105 autossh-1.2g p7zip-4.57 tcsh-6.15-r2 br2684ctl-20040226 par2cmdline-0.4-r2 zsh-4.3.4-r1 bridge-utils-1.2 pbzip2-1.0.2 dos2unix-3.1-r2 curl-7.17.1 rar-3.7.1 epdfview-0.1.6-r1 dhcp-3.1.0 rzip-2.1 poppler-0.6.3 dhcpcd-3.2.3 sharutils-4.6.3 poppler-bindings-0.6.3 ifenslave-1.1.0-r3 tar-1.20 unix2dos-2.2-r1 iputils-20071127 unace-1.2b-r1 gentoo-syntax-20070506 netkit-rsh-0.17-r8 unrar-3.7.8 perl-5.8.8-r5 ntp-4.2.4_p4 unzip-5.52-r2 python-2.4.4-r9 openssh-4.7_p1-r6 zip-2.32-r1 pexpect-2.1 openswan-2.4.11 dar-2.3.7-r1 py-gnupg-0.3.2 openvpn-2.1_rc7-r2 duplicity-0.4.7 pylibacl-0.2.1 rdate-1.4-r3 rdiff-backup-1.0.5 pyparted-1.8.9 rdesktop-1.6.0 rsnapshot-1.2.9 pyxattr-0.2 rsync-3.0.2 tob-0.26-r1 libglade-2.6.2 telnet-bsd-1.2-r1 bonnie++-1.93c ssmtp-2.61-r2 tightvnc-1.3.9-r1 cpuburn-1.4 arping-2.05 udpcast-20070602 stress-0.18.6 dnstracer-1.8 vconfig-1.9 cdrkit-1.1.8 httping-1.2.4 vpnc-0.5.1-r1 cdw-0.2.4 ifstat-1.1 wget-1.11.1 dvd+rw-tools-7.1 iftop-0.17 whois-4.7.24 chntpw-0.99.4.20070923 iptraf-3.0.0-r4 wput-0.6.1 gnupg-2.0.9 netcat-110-r8 acx-firmware-20060207 hashalot-0.3-r2 netselect-0.3-r2 atmel-firmware-1.3 md5deep-2.0.1-r1 ngrep-1.45 b43-fwcutter-011 opencdk-0.6.6 nmap-4.60 bcm43xx-fwcutter-006 pinentry-0.7.5 tcpdump-3.9.8 ipw2100-firmware-1.3 truecrypt-4.3a tcptraceroute-1.5_beta7 ipw2200-firmware-3.0 gvim-7.1.266 traceroute-2.0.9-r1 iwl3945-ucode-2.14.1.5 hexedit-1.2.12 globespan-adsl-0.12 iwl4965-ucode-4.44.1.20 joe-3.5 gtkterm-0.99.5-r1 madwifi-ng-tools-0.9.4 ndiswrapper-1.53 shadow-4.0.18.2 unionfs-utils-0.2 prism54-firmware-1.0.4. slocate-3.1-r1 xfsdump-2.2.46 wireless-tools-29 smartmontools-5.38 xfsprogs-2.9.8 wpa_supplicant-0.5.7 sysresccd-scripts-1.0.4 powermgmt-base-1.22 zd1201-firmware-0.14 sysvinit-2.86-r10 cronbase-0.3.2-r1 zd1211-firmware-1.4 tcp-wrappers-7.6-r8 htop-0.7 acl-2.2.45 usbutils-0.73 lsof-4.78-r1 apmd-3.2.2_p5 util-linux-2.13.1.1 procps-3.2.7 attr-2.4.39 which-2.19 psmisc-22.6 baselayout-1.12.11.1 x86info-1.21 vixie-cron-4.1-r10 cciss_vol_status-1.03 xinetd-2.3.14 dillo-0.8.6 coreutils-6.10-r2 pambase-20080318 elinks-0.11.3 dcfldd-1.3.4.1 gpart-0.1h-r1 lynx-2.8.6-r2 debianutils-2.28.5 gparted-0.3.7-r1 mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.1 diffutils-2.8.7-r2 lsiutil-1.52 mozilla-launcher-1.58 dmapi-2.2.8 mbuffer-20070911 thttpd-2.25b-r7 dmidecode-2.9 mpt-status-1.2.0 xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3 dstat-0.6.6 mtx-1.2.18 ati-drivers-8.501 dumpdisklayout-0.1.1 nbd-2.9.8 nvidia-drivers-173.14.0 ed-0.9 partimage-0.6.7 xf86-input-evdev-1.1.5- eject-2.1.5-r1 partimage-ssl-0.6.7 xf86-input-keyboard-1.3 ethtool-6 grub-0.97-r4 xf86-input-mouse-1.2.3 fbset-2.1 lilo-22.8-r2 xf86-video-ark-0.6.0 file-4.23 ms-sys-2.1.2 xf86-video-ati-6.6.3 findutils-4.3.13 syslinux-3.31 xf86-video-chips-1.1.1 fxload-20020411 btrfs-0.15-r2 xf86-video-cirrus-1.1.0 gawk-3.1.5-r5 btrfs-progs-0.15-r2 xf86-video-cyrix-1.1.0 grep-2.5.1a-r1 cryptsetup-1.0.5-r1 xf86-video-dummy-0.2.0 groff-1.19.2-r1 dd-rescue-1.10 xf86-video-fbdev-0.3.1 hdparm-8.6 ddrescue-1.8 xf86-video-glint-1.1.1 hwdata-gentoo-0.4 device-mapper-1.02.26 xf86-video-i128-1.2.1 hwsetup-1.2 dmraid-1.0.0_rc14 xf86-video-i740-1.1.0 ipmitool-1.8.9 dosfstools-2.11-r3 xf86-video-i810-2.1.1 iproute2-2.6.22.2007071 e2fsprogs-1.40.11 xf86-video-imstt-1.1.0 kbd-1.13-r1 evms-2.5.5-r10 xf86-video-mga-1.4.6.1 less-418 fuse-2.7.3 xf86-video-neomagic-1.1 lm_sensors-2.10.4 hfsplusutils-1.0.4-r1 xf86-video-nsc-2.8.2 lshw-02.12.01b hfsutils-3.2.6-r5 xf86-video-nv-2.1.2 man-1.6f jfsutils-1.1.8 xf86-video-openchrome-0 man-pages-2.80 lde-2.6.1 xf86-video-rendition-4. memtester-4.0.7 lsscsi-0.19 xf86-video-s3-0.5.0 module-init-tools-3.4 lufis-0.3 xf86-video-s3virge-1.9. net-tools-1.60-r13 lufs-0.9.7-r3 xf86-video-savage-2.1.2 netplug-1.2.9-r3 lvm2-2.02.33-r2 xf86-video-siliconmotio parted-1.8.8 mdadm-2.6.4-r1 xf86-video-sis-0.9.3 pciutils-2.2.10 mtools-3.9.10 xf86-video-tdfx-1.3.0 pcmcia-cs-3.2.8-r2 ntfs3g-1.2531 xf86-video-tga-1.1.0 portage-2.1.4.4 ntfsprogs-2.0.0-r1 xf86-video-trident-1.2. pv-1.1.4 reiser4progs-1.0.6 xf86-video-tseng-1.1.1 ren-1.0 reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-r2 xf86-video-vesa-1.3.0 rename-1.3 scrounge-ntfs-0.9 xf86-video-vmware-10.15 rescan-scsi-bus-1.25-r1 squashfs-tools-lzma-3.3 mrxvt-0.5.3-r2 sdparm-1.02 sshfs-fuse-1.9 rxvt-unicode-9.02-r1 sed-4.1.5-r1 sysfsutils-2.1.0 hicolor-icon-theme-0.10 setserial-2.17-r3 udev-119 jwm-2.0.1 sg3_utils-1.25 udftools-1.0.0b-r6 windowmaker-0.92.0-r3 libxfce4mcs-4.4.2 xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.2 exo-0.3.4 libxfce4util-4.4.2 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.4.2- terminal-0.2.8 libxfcegui4-4.4.2 Think you have a bit more there then you have with a XP boot disk :-) But the suse rescue boot is not bad either, it has everything needed to fix a broken system, and I guess that is the case with other dists too. /bb |