Claude Hopper wrote:

> I seem to have this version of KDE on my 11.0 system. When I select it
> and log in all I get is a white blank screen but I do get the tips
> screen and no music. Close the tips and nothing but a white blank
> screen, no icons, no background, no menus on any mouse clicks.
>
>

Create a new user and try KDE4 again.

Dieter Bär wrote:
> Claude Hopper wrote:
>
>> I seem to have this version of KDE on my 11.0 system. When I select it
>> and log in all I get is a white blank screen but I do get the tips
>> screen and no music. Close the tips and nothing but a white blank
>> screen, no icons, no background, no menus on any mouse clicks.
>>
>>
>
> Create a new user and try KDE4 again.

That worked. The new user works fine. Isn't that an odd bug? Original
user still gets the white screen. Maybe if I delete the original user
and recreate it? On second thought I'll will only work with KDE4.1 RC1
with the new user in case it blows up again.

Thanks

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Claude Hopper wrote:
> That worked. The new user works fine. Isn't that an odd bug? Original
> user still gets the white screen. Maybe if I delete the original user
> and recreate it? On second thought I'll will only work with KDE4.1 RC1
> with the new user in case it blows up again.

rename (not remove) ~/.kde4/ and then you can slowly place things back
till you have the same error.

What I do is in such cases is put 1/2 back. Then I can determine what
part give the problem. That I put in half again, untill I find the
guilty one.

This is NOT the fastest way matematicaly, but it is easiest. I believe
the ideal would be using 1/3rd or if I rememeber correctly 2/7th.

houghi
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To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground

houghi wrote:
> Claude Hopper wrote:
>> That worked. The new user works fine. Isn't that an odd bug? Original
>> user still gets the white screen. Maybe if I delete the original user
>> and recreate it? On second thought I'll will only work with KDE4.1 RC1
>> with the new user in case it blows up again.
>
> rename (not remove) ~/.kde4/ and then you can slowly place things back
> till you have the same error.
>
> What I do is in such cases is put 1/2 back. Then I can determine what
> part give the problem. That I put in half again, untill I find the
> guilty one.
>
> This is NOT the fastest way matematicaly, but it is easiest. I believe
> the ideal would be using 1/3rd or if I rememeber correctly 2/7th.

1/2 is the fastest. At least algorithmically. One of the fastest
search algorithms (binary search) uses exactly this approach.

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> Claude Hopper wrote:
>>> That worked. The new user works fine. Isn't that an odd bug? Original
>>> user still gets the white screen. Maybe if I delete the original user
>>> and recreate it? On second thought I'll will only work with KDE4.1
>>> RC1 with the new user in case it blows up again.
>>
>> rename (not remove) ~/.kde4/ and then you can slowly place things back
>> till you have the same error.
>>
>> What I do is in such cases is put 1/2 back. Then I can determine what
>> part give the problem. That I put in half again, untill I find the
>> guilty one.
>>
>> This is NOT the fastest way matematicaly, but it is easiest. I believe
>> the ideal would be using 1/3rd or if I rememeber correctly 2/7th.
>
> 1/2 is the fastest. At least algorithmically. One of the fastest
> search algorithms (binary search) uses exactly this approach.

1/2 then 1/2 of the guilty 1/2, then 1/2 of that and 1/2 of that is fast.

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houghi wrote:
> Claude Hopper wrote:
>> That worked. The new user works fine. Isn't that an odd bug? Original
>> user still gets the white screen. Maybe if I delete the original user
>> and recreate it? On second thought I'll will only work with KDE4.1 RC1
>> with the new user in case it blows up again.
>
> rename (not remove) ~/.kde4/ and then you can slowly place things back
> till you have the same error.
>
> What I do is in such cases is put 1/2 back. Then I can determine what
> part give the problem. That I put in half again, untill I find the
> guilty one.
>
> This is NOT the fastest way matematicaly, but it is easiest. I believe
> the ideal would be using 1/3rd or if I rememeber correctly 2/7th.
>
> houghi

I renamed .kde4 to .kde4.old then logged out and logged in with KDE4.1
RC1 and amazingly it came up normally and created a new .KDE4 directory.
No more white screen.

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Claude Hopper ? 3 7/8

Claude Hopper wrote:
> I renamed .kde4 to .kde4.old then logged out and logged in with KDE4.1
> RC1 and amazingly it came up normally and created a new .KDE4 directory.
> No more white screen.
>

That was to be expected. Now you can copy and paste things back to see
what caused it. That way you can give feedback and we know about it and
we might be able to file a bugreport and fix it.

houghi
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| Album : Hees van Ahoy CD 1

houghi wrote:
> Claude Hopper wrote:
>> I renamed .kde4 to .kde4.old then logged out and logged in with KDE4.1
>> RC1 and amazingly it came up normally and created a new .KDE4 directory.
>> No more white screen.
>>
>
> That was to be expected. Now you can copy and paste things back to see
> what caused it. That way you can give feedback and we know about it and
> we might be able to file a bugreport and fix it.
>
> houghi

Is there a way to compare the directories with a cat command or something?

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Claude Hopper ? 3 7/8

Claude Hopper wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> Claude Hopper wrote:
>>> I renamed .kde4 to .kde4.old then logged out and logged in with
>>> KDE4.1 RC1 and amazingly it came up normally and created a new .KDE4
>>> directory.
>>> No more white screen.
>>>
>>
>> That was to be expected. Now you can copy and paste things back to see
>> what caused it. That way you can give feedback and we know about it and
>> we might be able to file a bugreport and fix it.
>>
>> houghi
>
> Is there a way to compare the directories with a cat command or something?

diff -Naur ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.old > differences

Then open ~/differences in KWrite or Kate. It will be a mess of course.

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Claude Hopper wrote:
>> houghi wrote:
>>> Claude Hopper wrote:
>>>> I renamed .kde4 to .kde4.old then logged out and logged in with
>>>> KDE4.1 RC1 and amazingly it came up normally and created a new .KDE4
>>>> directory.
>>>> No more white screen.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That was to be expected. Now you can copy and paste things back to see
>>> what caused it. That way you can give feedback and we know about it and
>>> we might be able to file a bugreport and fix it.
>>>
>>> houghi
>>
>> Is there a way to compare the directories with a cat command or
>> something?
>
> diff -Naur ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.old > differences
>
> Then open ~/differences in KWrite or Kate. It will be a mess of course.

I looked at differences.txt with less. What am I supposed to do with all
that garbage? It's a 5.7 meg file!

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:24:47 -0400
Claude Hopper wrote:

>I looked at differences.txt with less. What am I supposed to do with
>all that garbage? It's a 5.7 meg file!
>

You could also install kdiff3 and/or tkdiff (there are some others,
too) which can be a big help in comparing differences in files and
directories.


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Kevin Nathan wrote:
> You could also install kdiff3 and/or tkdiff (there are some others,
> too) which can be a big help in comparing differences in files and
> directories.

I would go with dirdiff.

houghi
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America great. If America weren't incomparably ignorant, how could we
have tolerated the last eight years? -- Frank Zappa, in 1988

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:10:19 +0200
houghi wrote:

>Kevin Nathan wrote:
>> You could also install kdiff3 and/or tkdiff (there are some others,
>> too) which can be a big help in comparing differences in files and
>> directories.
>
>I would go with dirdiff.
>

Yeah, that one is good, too. I used to use it and tkdiff most of the
time but have been using kdiff3 (and JMeld sometimes) lately. It's good
to try them all and figure out which one works best for you. :-)

I just discovered imediff2 for command line today and want to try that
one, too (for text files, only, no dir capability from what I can see).


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