Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0 - Suse

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  1. Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    I am installing Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11 as I type this.

    What I see during the instalation is good. They have been working hard
    on bringing down the number of things to do and select.
    The Language and Keyboard settings are not hidden away anymre, which is
    good for people using different languages or keyboards or both.

    During the User Settings you can select to use the same password for
    root. Saves a bit of time. The reason for this is that most people will
    start with themselves as root AND select the same login and password.

    Also good to see that the option 'Auto login'
    is off by default.

    You also get the option to do auto-configuration. Not on by default, as
    I guess it still needs a lot of testing. However that takes out the
    second part of the installation or the configuration.
    Most people would click a lot of OK there anyways.

    Although I personaly would not use it, I think it is great it is
    available and I can imagine it being the default in the future, as long
    as it is availble.

    Obviously one should always read
    http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.0_dev

    I forgot to remove my USB keys and could initialy not boot. My bad.
    After the initial reboot Igot into CLI of YaST.

    houghi
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  2. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    houghi wrote:
    > I am installing Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11 as I type this.
    >
    > What I see during the instalation is good. They have been working hard
    > on bringing down the number of things to do and select.
    > The Language and Keyboard settings are not hidden away anymre, which is
    > good for people using different languages or keyboards or both.
    >
    > During the User Settings you can select to use the same password for
    > root. Saves a bit of time. The reason for this is that most people will
    > start with themselves as root AND select the same login and password.
    >
    > Also good to see that the option 'Auto login'
    > is off by default.
    >
    > You also get the option to do auto-configuration. Not on by default, as
    > I guess it still needs a lot of testing. However that takes out the
    > second part of the installation or the configuration.
    > Most people would click a lot of OK there anyways.
    >
    > Although I personaly would not use it, I think it is great it is
    > available and I can imagine it being the default in the future, as long
    > as it is availble.
    >
    > Obviously one should always read
    > http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.0_dev
    >
    > I forgot to remove my USB keys and could initialy not boot. My bad.
    > After the initial reboot Igot into CLI of YaST.
    >
    > houghi


    Alpha 3 is far too buggy on most of my hardware. Laptop boots up and
    wireless "sees" everything (Intel/PRO on-board) but can't actually
    connect or establish the protocols. That pretty much ends the test, but
    overall layout looks descent. Also seems to barely get the video card
    up and running (Intel on-board). KDE 4 seems promising but still
    feature incomplete.

    On all other hardware (desktops) will not even boot the kernel (various
    brands and ages). But, interestingly, Fedora is further along into Beta
    yet is works much worse on all my hardware (except one of the desktops -
    and then only barely). Of course Ubuntu is very near completion, but it
    works very well on everything (now if only they offered a serious KDE
    version a real fan could love)...

  3. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    Usenet Reader wrote:
    > Alpha 3 is far too buggy on most of my hardware.


    An Alpha can never be too buggy.

    > Laptop boots up and
    > wireless "sees" everything (Intel/PRO on-board) but can't actually
    > connect or establish the protocols. That pretty much ends the test,


    They will be extremely interested in this information, so I asume you
    have filed a bugreport. Otherwise the use of running an Alpha or Beta is
    completely and utterly useless.

    > but overall layout looks descent. Also seems to barely get the video
    > card up and running (Intel on-board).


    Bugreports, bugreports, bugreports.

    > KDE 4 seems promising but still
    > feature incomplete.


    I have no way of knowing that.

    > On all other hardware (desktops) will not even boot the kernel (various
    > brands and ages).


    Bugreports if it is unrelated to bug #371997.

    > But, interestingly, Fedora is further along into Beta



    I just tried it on my main machine and I got the following results:
    1) Instalation without a problem
    2) No NVidia (Known bug)
    3) Unable to boot back into 10.3, because it made the wrong entry in
    menu.lst (#375200)

    I do not have enough time to do much more serious testing, but can
    anybody tell me what the button in the corner is for where you can make
    your desktop smaller? I see it makes your desktop smaller, but I fail to
    see the use for it.

    Perhaps later I will try again and see if I can find other things.

    houghi
    --
    Microsoft says, "Where do you want to go today?"
    Apple says, "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
    FOSS says, "Are you coming, or what?"

  4. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:01:55 +0100, houghi wrote:


    > Perhaps later I will try again and see if I can find other things.
    >
    > houghi


    As far as I can see, the best thing by far is there is a browser for 64
    bit machines that works in firefox. This is provided with java 7 only.

  5. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    graham wrote:
    > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:01:55 +0100, houghi wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Perhaps later I will try again and see if I can find other things.
    >>
    >> houghi

    >
    > As far as I can see, the best thing by far is there is a browser for 64
    > bit machines that works in firefox. This is provided with java 7 only.


    Also YaST, the installer part, is a LOT faster for those who are
    interested in that kind of thing. Because of that, I think the one-click
    install will become my prefered method of instaling software.

    houghi
    --
    They say pesticides have been linked to low sperm counts.
    In my opinion if you have bugs down there that are so bad
    you need to use a pesticide, you're not gonna get laid anyway.

  6. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    houghi wrote:

    > graham wrote:
    >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:01:55 +0100, houghi wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Perhaps later I will try again and see if I can find other things.
    >>>
    >>> houghi

    >>
    >> As far as I can see, the best thing by far is there is a browser for 64
    >> bit machines that works in firefox. This is provided with java 7 only.

    >
    > Also YaST, the installer part, is a LOT faster for those who are
    > interested in that kind of thing. Because of that, I think the one-click
    > install will become my prefered method of instaling software.
    >
    > houghi


    The package management is broken right now.
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377518

    I hope that they come with solution for the beta 1.

    --
    Regards, Rajko
    http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands.

  7. Re: Alpha 3 of openSUSE 11.0

    Rajko M. wrote:
    > The package management is broken right now.


    The package management FOR FACTURY (which is Alpha) is broken right now.
    There, corrected that for you, because otherwise people could get under
    te impression that their YaST is b0rken.

    > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377518
    >
    > I hope that they come with solution for the beta 1.


    Well, that is what Alpha and Beta is for, but as they have marked it as
    'blocker' it could be that they wait with the Beta untill this is
    resolved.

    Or not and give a warning and a workaround. Hell, it is beta, so who
    cares if something is not working. If everything worked, that would be a
    major bug, because it is Beta and thus would not act as expected (i.e.
    broken)


    houghi
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