Roger wrote:

> I've finally managed to get a "semi" working 10.3 system by continuing
> the install from the mirrors.

Do you mean by that that you used the "Internet" installation? I tried that
and the results were dismal on two different computers. Others had no
problems. I think it had something to do with not recognizing my ethernet
cards at the beginning and substituting a different driver. The DVD
installation however always picks up the internet card. It is a common
realtek.

> However, my new system does not seem to
> recognize either of my CD/DVD drives - making re-installing stuff into
> my /home directory somewht problematical. Inserting a data DVD or CD
> under 10.0 would cause the drive to appear under /media, but it
> doesn't under 10.3. Am I doing something wrong?
>

If I remember correctly 10.0 had a permanent subdirectory for the CD and DVD
drives under /media. 10.3 on the other hand creates them on the fly. The
floppy was also addressed in the same manner.

Do you find your DVD listed under Menu --> System --> Monitor -->
KinfoCenter? That app is useful for telling a lot about your hardware. In
fact it probably gives too much information for the non techie and the
techie alike.

Have you tried using YAST and selecting Patterns then updating all the
installed programs? Did you allow the Installation to add the suggested
repositories? You might also go to the OpenSuse website and have a look at
some of the other repositories you can add that are useful. I almost never
use the DVD to add or update programs. Do you live in an area where online
communication is prohibitive because it is costly?

> Regards
> Roger

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Hi Darrell

Menu --> System --> Monitor --> KinfoCenter sees my CD writer/DVD
reader but sees it as a CD reader/DVD reader only. My DVD burner
(second unit) isn't seen at all. I've tried loading K3b and that
reports that I hve no writing devices available - not true, I have
two.

I'm living in Cyprus and broadband access is sloooowwww

Regards
Roger

>
> Have you tried using YAST and selecting Patterns then updating all the
> installed programs? Did you allow the Installation to add the suggested
> repositories? You might also go to the OpenSuse website and have a look at
> some of the other repositories you can add that are useful. I almost never
> use the DVD to add or update programs. Do you live in an area where online
> communication is prohibitive because it is costly?
>

I've now updated all the installed programs. The syetm still sees my
Samsung CD Writer/DVD reader as read only device and doesn't see my
Phillips DVD/CD Read/Writer device at all

Regards
Roger

Roger wrote:

> I've finally managed to get a "semi" working 10.3 system by continuing
> the install from the mirrors. However, my new system does not seem to
> recognize either of my CD/DVD drives - making re-installing stuff into
> my /home directory somewht problematical. Inserting a data DVD or CD
> under 10.0 would cause the drive to appear under /media, but it
> doesn't under 10.3. Am I doing something wrong?

did you upgrade from 10.0 to 10.3?
if yes, do a full new install of openSUSE 10.3 without network ;-)
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>
> did you upgrade from 10.0 to 10.3?
> if yes, do a full new install of openSUSE 10.3 without network ;-)

In the end, it was a full new install. I have also used *Patterns* in
YAST to upgrade all installed packages to the latest version. Googling
seems to indicate that 10.3 "eating" CD and DVD writers is not unknown
and while I've found several instances of the problem, I've not found
any solutions.

To re-cap, I have a Samsung CD Read/Writer DVD reader device that is
configured with both /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd pointing to /dev/sr0.
This device is recognised by the system but as a purely read only
device. I also have a Phillips DVD read/write device which is not
recognised by the system at all.

I'm now going to try unplugging both devices, re-booting and then re-
adding the devices one at a time to see if I can get the system to
recognize and configure them at boot time.

Regards
Roger

Roger wrote:

> To re-cap, I have a Samsung CD Read/Writer DVD reader device that is
> configured with both /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd pointing to /dev/sr0.
> This device is recognised by the system but as a purely read only
> device. I also have a Phillips DVD read/write device which is not
> recognised by the system at all.

can you gives us the types of cd/dvd writers/readers?
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EOS wrote:

> can you gives us the types of cd/dvd writers/readers?

can you also gives us the info
in yast - hardware - hardwareinfo?
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On 17 Jan, 12:34, EOS wrote:
> EOS wrote:
> > can you gives us the types of cd/dvd writers/readers?
>
> can you also gives us the info
> in yast - hardware - hardwareinfo?
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> Running KDE 3.5.8 / openSUSE 10.3

Do you want the lot, or just sections & if so,which ones?

Regards

Roger wrote:

> Do you want the lot, or just sections & if so,which ones?

just the cd/dvd drives ;-)

and maby post the info of "wodim --devices"
in konsole without a cd in the drive(s)
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OK - here goes. First the output from wodim -- devices;

varleyr@babylon2:~/Documents> wodim --devices
wodim: Overview of accessible drives (1 found) :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 dev='/dev/scd0' rwrw-- : 'SAMSUNG' 'DVD-ROM SD-612'
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


and secondly, the output from YAST saved to a file. ( I hope this the
right bit as the text file doesn't seem to resemble the YAST display)

5: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_ROM_SD_612'
block.minor = 0 (0x0)
storage.requires_eject = true
info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom' }
storage.bus = 'scsi'
storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true
storage.cdrom.support_multisession = true
storage.removable.media_available = false
storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false
storage.cdrom.mrw_w = true
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_names = { 'Grant',
'Revoke' }
info.category = 'storage'
info.product = 'DVD-ROM SD-612'
storage.drive_type = 'cdrom'
storage.hotpluggable = false
storage.physical_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer'
storage.cdrom.mrw = true
storage.partitioning_scheme = ''
storage.vendor = 'SAMSUNG'
storage.media_check_enabled = true
storage.cdrom.read_speed = 5632 (0x1600)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_names = { 'Eject',
'CloseTray' }
storage.cdrom.dvd = true
storage.removable.media_size = 7621836800ull (0x1c64c0000ull)
block.is_volume = false
storage.firmware_version = '0.4'
storage.cdrom.bdre = false
storage.cdrom.mo = false
block.storage_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/
storage_model_DVD_ROM_SD_612'
info.addons = { 'hald-addon-storage' }
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/
pci_1106_571_scsi_host_0_scsi_device_lun0'
storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = false
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_signature s = { '', '' }
storage.size = 0ull (0x0ull)
storage.cdrom.write_speed = 0 (0x0)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_signatur es = { 'as',
'as' }
block.device = '/dev/sr0'
info.callouts.add = { 'hal-resmgr' }
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_argnames =
{ 'extra_options', 'extra_options' }
storage.cdrom.cdr = false
storage.no_partitions_hint = true
storage.cdrom.bdr = false
storage.removable = true
storage.lun = 0 (0x0)
info.vendor = 'SAMSUNG'
storage.cdrom.dvdram = false
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false
storage.cdrom.write_speeds = { }
storage.cdrom.dvdr = false
info.interfaces = { 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr' }
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_execpath s = { 'hal-storage-
eject', 'hal-storage-closetray' }
storage.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer'
storage.model = 'DVD-ROM SD-612'
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/
storage_model_DVD_ROM_SD_612'
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = false
storage.cdrom.bd = false
storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false
block.major = 11 (0xb)
storage.removable.support_async_notification = false
resmgr.class = 'cdrom'
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3)
storage.cdrom.cdrw = false
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = false
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_argnames = { '', '' }
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/sr0'
storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true
storage.cdrom.hddvd = false
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_execpaths = { 'hal-resmgr-
grant', 'hal-resmgr-revoke' }

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Roger wrote:-

>and secondly, the output from YAST saved to a file. ( I hope this the
>right bit as the text file doesn't seem to resemble the YAST display)
>
>5: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_ROM_SD_612'



> storage.cdrom.cdr = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdram = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdr = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = false
> storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false
> storage.cdrom.cdrw = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = false
> storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false

I hate to burst your bubble, but that isn't a CD writer/DVD-DOM combo.
The drive identifies itself as a DVD-ROM and says it doesn't support
writing to any optical media.

If you want the specs for it, Dell has them online here:




Regards,
David Bolt

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On 17 Jan, 22:30, David Bolt wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Roger wrote:-
> >and secondly, the output from YAST saved to a file. ( I hope this the
> >right bit as the text file doesn't seem to resemble the YAST display)
>
> >5: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_ROM_SD_612'
>
>
>
> > storage.cdrom.cdr = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdram = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdr = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = false
> > storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false
> > storage.cdrom.cdrw = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = false
> > storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false
>
> I hate to burst your bubble, but that isn't a CD writer/DVD-DOM combo.
> The drive identifies itself as a DVD-ROM and says it doesn't support
> writing to any optical media.
>

Exactly! Under 10.0 it was a working CD Read/Writer and a DVD reader.
I've no way of checking how it identified itself under 10.0 other than
re-installing. This is why I'm getting stressed. However, I could live
with it "mis-identifying itself" for the time being if I could get the
capabilities of the second CD/DVD burner back. Any suggestions as to
why the second DVD Writer isn't even recognised.

Regards
Roger

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Roger wrote:-



>Exactly! Under 10.0 it was a working CD Read/Writer and a DVD reader.
>I've no way of checking how it identified itself under 10.0 other than
>re-installing.

I don't see how it could have been a CD writer when the specs for the
SD-612 explicitly shows no writing capability:


Drive speed

DVD 4.9X to 12X
CD 18X to 40X

Bus interface

IDE / ATAPI interface

Types of disc formats supported

DVD :

DVD-5 : single-sided, single-layer format (4.377 GB)
DVD-9 : single-sided, dual-layer format (~ 7.95 GB)
DVD-10 : double-sided, single-layer format (~ 8.754 GB)
DVD-18 : double-sided, dual-layer format (~ 15.917 GB)

CD :

CD-DA
All CD-ROM and CD-Recordable Mode 1,2
CD-ROM XA(Mode2, Form1 and Form2) via data read
CD-ROM XA multi-session for Photo-CD
CD-Enhanced multi-session disc format
VIDEO-CD / CD-I(FMV) / CD-Plus / CD Extra
CD-RW(Read) / CD-R(Read) / CD-TEXT


As you can see, there's no mention of it being able to write to any
optical media.

>This is why I'm getting stressed. However, I could live
>with it "mis-identifying itself" for the time being if I could get the
>capabilities of the second CD/DVD burner back. Any suggestions as to
>why the second DVD Writer isn't even recognised.

Absolutely none. Is it recognised by the BIOS when booting? Have you
made any hardware changes? Are you sure it's still connected to the IDE
bus?


Regards,
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> Absolutely none. Is it recognised by the BIOS when booting? Have you
> made any hardware changes? Are you sure it's still connected to the IDE
> bus?
>

Hi David

Both CD/DVD drives are recognised at boot time - but now that I've hd
time to "play" with 10.3, the more I'm unhappy. For example, Yast no
longer offers the option to be an NFS server .... I know that I've
done something stupid down the line somewhere 'cos otherwise everyone
would be up in arms - I just don't know what I've done and how to
recover.

Roger wrote:

> Yast no longer offers the option to be an NFS server

Close Yast, install the nfs-kernel-server package, run Yast again and you
should see NFS Server in the Network Services section.

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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Roger wrote:-

>
>> Absolutely none. Is it recognised by the BIOS when booting? Have you
>> made any hardware changes? Are you sure it's still connected to the IDE
>> bus?
>>
>
>Hi David
>
>Both CD/DVD drives are recognised at boot time - but now that I've hd
>time to "play" with 10.3, the more I'm unhappy.

Personally, I don't see that much different between 10.0 and 10.3. KDE
jumped from 3.4[0] to 3.5.7, and there were a few other version changes
but, with the exception of the new package management system, I really
can't see that much on a day to day basis.

>For example, Yast no
>longer offers the option to be an NFS server ....

You've probably not installed the yast2-nfs-server package. I don't
think it's a default package, so you may have needed to add it manually.

>I know that I've
>done something stupid down the line somewhere 'cos otherwise everyone
>would be up in arms - I just don't know what I've done and how to
>recover.

My first diagnostic test would be to shut down and disconnect the
Samsung drive, since the kernel sees that drive. Then, reboot into
runlevel 1 and then look to see if it's detected without the Samsung
present.


[0] Not sure which version, and can't be bothered to dig out my 10.0
installation discs.

Regards,
David Bolt

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Roger wrote:

> For example, Yast no
> longer offers the option to be an NFS server .... I

install the nfs-server?
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OK - the NFS server bit was me being stupid. You are quite correct, I
had failed to install it. Doh!

I'm still trying to get the DVD driver working. I've come across this
in boot.msg and it appears right after the system has identified the
hard drives

<4>ata2.01: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x1)
<4>ata2: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
<6>ata2.00: ATAPI: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612, BS04, max MWDMA2
<6>ata2.00: configured for MWDMA2
<5>scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA IBM-DTLA-305020 TWEH PQ:
0 ANSI: 5
<5>scsi 0:0:1:0: Direct-Access ATA ST360021A 7.18 PQ:
0 ANSI: 5
<5>scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612 0.4 PQ:
0 ANSI: 5

I've now opened the case and unplugged both drives. I then re-
connected the Phillips DVD Writer drive on it's own and the system
recognizes it. So the unit itself is working. I shut down the system
and re-connected the Samsung as well. On re-boot, the system only
recognizes the Samsung!