John Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:22:19 +0100 houghi
> wrote:
>
>> Go for the StoreBackup. CLI is not that difficult. If you know how to
>> use Notepad, I will be able to guide you through it.
>
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I think I will try Konserve to start with.

Great, if that does what you expect it to do, all the better.

Some flags _I_ do for a backup
1) No GUI. It must work without GUI. From what I see Konserve would fail
due to the following: "It lives in the system tray" First I do not have
a system tray and secondly that would worry me, because would that mean
it runs if another user is logged in?

2) Easy restore. The first thing you should do is make a copy of
/etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test, then take the backup.
Removove /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test and start a terminal and use that
terminal to restore the file.

I use `mc` to browse my system, but you should be able to do it without
mc as well. Seriously, otherwise you might end up with a backup that you
can't use.

3) Easy restore. Yes, it must be easy to restore

4) Automated incremential backups. That way each version might be
different then the first, so I can go back at least one month. This also
means that I do not want to look at it once it is up and running

5) Not too difficult to configure. If all the above applies, I am
willing to put some time in it, as I only would need to do it once.

6) Not something I made myself from scratch, because then I am sure to
forget things that will cause loss of data.

That is about the order of importance, with 1 and 2 extremely close
together

> Sorry, didn't want to start a flame war!

What flame war?

houghi
--
You tried, and you failed, so the lesson is, never try. - Homer J. Simpson.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:43:46 +0100 houghi
wrote:

> That is about the order of importance, with 1 and 2 extremely close
> together

Thanks for the tips, I have highlighted your mail to try what you
suggest.
>
> > Sorry, didn't want to start a flame war!
>
> What flame war?

Just seemed to be some nasty comments along the way?

houghi wrote:

> Next what you do is edit /etc/storebackup.d/storebackup.config so that
> it does what you want it to do. What I did was first do all the settings
> one by one and each time ran the storeBackup command.
>
> Next I add one directory, next do the exeptions and then add all the
> other directories.
>
> If all that works, you can configure backup.sh and the read-only
> mounting of your backup partition.
>
>
>
> houghi

When I get back to your country someday, I have to buy you a few beers,
Houghi. You not only solved this particular problem in getting storeBackup
to function, you taught me something about a methodical approach to use in
troubleshooting all programs. :-)

Now that it is working, I only need to keep editing storebackup.config
(using vi as root) until I get everything in that I want, plus eliminating
everything that I don't need. Then, I shall put it in CRON and sit back.

Maybe we could have a few Jungjenevers also, if I remember that correctly
from twenty years ago. ;-)

Thanks again for all of the effort that you put in for me.

Godzilla

Godzilla wrote:
> When I get back to your country someday, I have to buy you a few beers,
> Houghi. You not only solved this particular problem in getting storeBackup
> to function, you taught me something about a methodical approach to use in
> troubleshooting all programs. :-)

Only by repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again myself
have I learned to to take the methodical approach.
The first time I actualy started using this was when I learn about the
different layers on the Intertubes. When somebody told me his Email was
not working, I started looking at much lower layers first, while others
started to re-configure the Email client.

In the end, going to the lowest layer first till you see the problem is
the fastest way in the end. Then I started to wonder why and the reason
is that to solve a proble, you first need to know where the problem is.

If you want to analyze something, it is easiest to take as much out as
possible, as to be sure to get to each problem at a time.

> Now that it is working, I only need to keep editing storebackup.config
> (using vi as root) until I get everything in that I want, plus eliminating
> everything that I don't need. Then, I shall put it in CRON and sit back.

You'd be surprised that it already IS in cron, although perhaps not
correctly.

houghi
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