Rikishi 42 wrote:

> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?

From my experience, they're located in /dev/random.

Hendric
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Rikishi 42 wrote:

>
> I've recently moved between machines. As I have done before, I had set up
> the normal base install, added my user with the same UID as allways,
> installed my favorite programs, and ran the update.
>
> Then - as root - I (re-)moved the contents of my home directory and
> replaced it with that of the old machine.
>
> Resolution is the same, I have done this before, everything seems ok.
>
> But some of the icons don't stay where I put them.
> Icon sorting is switched off.
>
> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.

~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions

My guess is, it will not remember positions if it can't store them, ie.
permissions are messed up. Than it will create new file with random suffix
and .new appended. Normal permission is u:rw- g:--- o:--- ie. only owner
can read or change files.

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Rajko.

Rikishi 42 wrote:

>
> I've recently moved between machines. As I have done before, I had set up
> the normal base install, added my user with the same UID as allways,
> installed my favorite programs, and ran the update.
>
> Then - as root - I (re-)moved the contents of my home directory and
> replaced it with that of the old machine.
>
> Resolution is the same, I have done this before, everything seems ok.
>
> But some of the icons don't stay where I put them.
> Icon sorting is switched off.
>
>
>
> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.
>
>
Have you tried putting your icons where you want them, right click on the
desktop from the drop down menu that appears select icons, from the next
drop down menu select “lock in place.�

On 2007-10-21, Hendric Stattmann wrote:
> Rikishi 42 wrote:
>
>> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
>
> From my experience, they're located in /dev/random.

I parsed the whole line, before grepping that.

Bastard. :-)


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On 2007-10-21, Rajko M. wrote:
>> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
>> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.
>
> ~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions

Great, found it !

> My guess is, it will not remember positions if it can't store them, ie.
> permissions are messed up. Than it will create new file with random suffix
> and .new appended. Normal permission is u:rw- g:--- o:--- ie. only owner
> can read or change files.

Well, permissions seemed OK.

But I did see a whole bunch of 'IconPositions*.*' files:
-rw------- 1 werner users 1456 2007-10-22 19:33 IconPositions
-rw------- 1 werner users 1241 2007-08-25 22:00 IconPositions990mxb.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1362 2006-12-18 20:27 IconPositionsCv0CRb.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1488 2007-02-15 11:13 IconPositionsdm5l4b.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1176 2007-04-27 13:16 IconPositionsFLqrtc.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1241 2007-09-26 23:22 IconPositionsFT2xOb.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1241 2007-09-16 00:58 IconPositionsj2gfMa.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 0 2007-06-16 20:21 IconPositionspjOu6b.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1556 2007-01-16 00:15 IconPositionsrs8Ywb.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 637 2006-02-13 21:17 IconPositionsSwapoa.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 1176 2007-07-21 00:35 IconPositionsv7ifIb.new
-rw------- 1 werner users 0 2007-09-29 22:43 IconPositionsXBGCec.new

Some where empty, most dated from before the switch between machines.

I moved them elsewhere, and did a shutdown. After that, I found a new
IconPositions file, and the icons had kept the position they would 'walk
away' from.


Thanks a lot !


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On 2007-10-22, winston winslo wrote:
> Rikishi 42 wrote:
>
>>
>> I've recently moved between machines. As I have done before, I had set up
>> the normal base install, added my user with the same UID as allways,
>> installed my favorite programs, and ran the update.
>>
>> Then - as root - I (re-)moved the contents of my home directory and
>> replaced it with that of the old machine.
>>
>> Resolution is the same, I have done this before, everything seems ok.
>>
>> But some of the icons don't stay where I put them.
>> Icon sorting is switched off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
>> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.
>>
>>
> Have you tried putting your icons where you want them, right click on the
> desktop from the drop down menu that appears select icons, from the next
> drop down menu select ?lock in place.?

No such option found. Maybe that's after version 10.0 ?



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On 2007-10-22, Rikishi 42 wrote:
>> ~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions
>
> Great, found it !
>
>> My guess is, it will not remember positions if it can't store them, ie.
>> permissions are messed up. Than it will create new file with random suffix
>> and .new appended. Normal permission is u:rw- g:--- o:--- ie. only owner
>> can read or change files.
>
> Well, permissions seemed OK.
>
> But I did see a whole bunch of 'IconPositions*.*' files:
> -rw------- 1 werner users 1456 2007-10-22 19:33 IconPositions


> Some where empty, most dated from before the switch between machines.
>
> I moved them elsewhere, and did a shutdown. After that, I found a new
> IconPositions file, and the icons had kept the position they would 'walk
> away' from.

.... and they're walking again !

Dawn !


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Rikishi 42 wrote:

> On 2007-10-22, winston winslo wrote:
>> Rikishi 42 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've recently moved between machines. As I have done before, I had set
>>> up the normal base install, added my user with the same UID as allways,
>>> installed my favorite programs, and ran the update.
>>>
>>> Then - as root - I (re-)moved the contents of my home directory and
>>> replaced it with that of the old machine.
>>>
>>> Resolution is the same, I have done this before, everything seems ok.
>>>
>>> But some of the icons don't stay where I put them.
>>> Icon sorting is switched off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
>>> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.
>>>
>>>
>> Have you tried putting your icons where you want them, right click on the
>> desktop from the drop down menu that appears select icons, from the next
>> drop down menu select ?lock in place.?
>
> No such option found. Maybe that's after version 10.0 ?
>
>
>

The icon positions are stored here:
/home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop (in konqueror use 'View' 'Show
Hidden Files')

Next time you update this is the file to save and put in your new
/home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop folder.

------------------------------------snip---------------------------------
>
> The icon positions are stored here:
> /home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop (in konqueror use 'View' 'Show
> Hidden Files')
>
> Next time you update this is the file to save and put in your new
> /home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop folder.

Forgot to mention the name of the file in this folder is called

'IconPositions' . Who would have thought ??

Rikishi 42 wrote:

> On 2007-10-22, Rikishi 42 wrote:
>>> ~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions
>>
>> Great, found it !
>>
>>> My guess is, it will not remember positions if it can't store them, ie.
>>> permissions are messed up. Than it will create new file with random
>>> suffix and .new appended. Normal permission is u:rw- g:--- o:--- ie.
>>> only owner can read or change files.
>>
>> Well, permissions seemed OK.
>>
>> But I did see a whole bunch of 'IconPositions*.*' files:
>> -rw------- 1 werner users 1456 2007-10-22 19:33 IconPositions
>
>
>> Some where empty, most dated from before the switch between machines.
>>
>> I moved them elsewhere, and did a shutdown. After that, I found a new
>> IconPositions file, and the icons had kept the position they would 'walk
>> away' from.
>
> ... and they're walking again !
>
> Dawn !

Well, I have seen some walking, but then I used context menu
Icons > [x] Align to grid
and they don't walk unless I change screen resolution.
Though even that can be sorted out if you specify in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
that your virtual desktop is as big as your maximum screen resolution.
Let me see 'man xorg.conf'.
It tells that I can use
Virtual xdim ydim
in
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768"
Virtual 1280 1024
EndSubSection

I just added this to mine and let we see how it works. Save message and
logout.
-\|/-\|/-\|/- (after sometime)

It works separately for each screen. Cool.
Now I have 1280x1024 on both screens without overloading smaller monitor,
and icons stay where they are. Mouse is used to move screen to area that is
not visible.

This xorg is amazing what you can configure.

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Rajko.

On 2007-10-26, Michael Soibelman wrote:

>>>> Where does KDE store the positions of it's dekstop icons?
>>>> I'd like to see if anything is going on with that file.
>>>>
>>> Have you tried putting your icons where you want them, right click on the
>>> desktop from the drop down menu that appears select icons, from the next
>>> drop down menu select ?lock in place.?
>>
>> No such option found. Maybe that's after version 10.0 ?

> The icon positions are stored here:
> /home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop (in konqueror use 'View' 'Show
> Hidden Files')

I know. And when I move the icons, I see the date/time of that file chaned.
o that's OK.

> Next time you update this is the file to save and put in your new
> /home/yourname/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop folder.
I did save it. I copied the whole home dir. But with the original files in
that dir, or after removing them, so KDE creates a new one... I sometimes
find a few icons moved, when I start up.

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