Problems with 10.3 Konsole - Suse

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  1. Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    It won't save a "schema." Even though I try to make green on black default,
    it still comes up with a white screen and must be changed each session.

    Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds telling
    me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I really want
    out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I say yes.

    Also, isn't there any way to have a non-root console without first logging
    in as root and then asking for a new shell?

    Thanks,

    Godzilla

  2. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > It won't save a "schema." Even though I try to make green on black
    > default, it still comes up with a white screen and must be changed each
    > session.


    In KDE Konsole drop down menu Settings > Save as default will save current
    settings.

    > Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds
    > telling me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I
    > really want out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I say
    > yes.


    To close any Konsole, terminate running programa and press Ctrl-d , that
    will log out any user and close window.

    > Also, isn't there any way to have a non-root console without first logging
    > in as root and then asking for a new shell?


    I'll try to guess from word 'Konsole' that you are using KDE.

    Main Menu > Applications > System > Terminal > Konsole
    but not Terminal - Super user mode

    Log in as root and asking for a new shell?
    Is that mean that you log in KDE as root, or open 'Terminal - Super user
    mode'?

    --
    Regards,
    Rajko.

  3. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Rajko M. wrote:

    > Godzilla wrote:
    >
    >> It won't save a "schema." Even though I try to make green on black
    >> default, it still comes up with a white screen and must be changed each
    >> session.

    >
    > In KDE Konsole drop down menu Settings > Save as default will save current
    > settings.
    >

    That is exactly what DOESN'T HAPPEN. The current settings are NOT saved.

    >> Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds
    >> telling me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I
    >> really want out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I say
    >> yes.

    >
    > To close any Konsole, terminate running programa and press Ctrl-d , that
    > will log out any user and close window.


    That one worked. Thanks.
    >
    >> Also, isn't there any way to have a non-root console without first
    >> logging in as root and then asking for a new shell?

    >
    > I'll try to guess from word 'Konsole' that you are using KDE.
    >

    I am using KDE.

    > Main Menu > Applications > System > Terminal > Konsole
    > but not Terminal - Super user mode
    >

    All terminals come up as Super user mode.

    > Log in as root and asking for a new shell?
    > Is that mean that you log in KDE as root, or open 'Terminal - Super user
    > mode'?
    >

    No, I am logged in as a user, not as root.


  4. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > Rajko M. wrote:
    >
    >> Godzilla wrote:
    >>
    >>> It won't save a "schema." Even though I try to make green on black
    >>> default, it still comes up with a white screen and must be changed each
    >>> session.

    >>
    >> In KDE Konsole drop down menu Settings > Save as default will save
    >> current settings.
    >>

    > That is exactly what DOESN'T HAPPEN. The current settings are NOT
    > saved.
    >
    >>> Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds
    >>> telling me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I
    >>> really want out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I
    >>> say yes.

    >>
    >> To close any Konsole, terminate running programa and press Ctrl-d , that
    >> will log out any user and close window.

    >
    > That one worked. Thanks.
    >>
    >>> Also, isn't there any way to have a non-root console without first
    >>> logging in as root and then asking for a new shell?

    >>
    >> I'll try to guess from word 'Konsole' that you are using KDE.
    >>

    > I am using KDE.
    >
    >> Main Menu > Applications > System > Terminal > Konsole
    >> but not Terminal - Super user mode
    >>

    > All terminals come up as Super user mode.
    >
    >> Log in as root and asking for a new shell?
    >> Is that mean that you log in KDE as root, or open 'Terminal - Super user
    >> mode'?
    >>

    > No, I am logged in as a user, not as root.


    Strange. Help me to clarify.

    Does it ask you for password?
    It will if it has to run Konsole as root.

    Type command
    whoami
    in console. What user name shows up?


    --
    Regards,
    Rajko.

  5. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Rajko M. wrote:

    > All terminals come up as Super user mode.
    >>
    >>> Log in as root and asking for a new shell?
    >>> Is that mean that you log in KDE as root, or open *'Terminal - Super
    >>> user mode'?
    >>>

    >> No, I am logged in as a user, not as root.

    >
    > Strange. Help me to clarify.
    >
    > Does it ask you for password?
    > It will if it has to run Konsole as root.
    >
    > Type command
    > whoami
    > in console. What user name shows up?


    I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root, but
    only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for password and
    will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after logging in to
    Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected "root."

    Godzilla

  6. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root, but
    > only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for password and
    > will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after logging in to
    > Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected "root."


    How are you opening konsole? A menu entry? A Button?

    What happens if you use Alt+F2 and type 'konsole'? Do you get the same
    behaviour?

    --
    Don

  7. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla schrieb:

    > Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds
    > telling me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I
    > really want out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I say
    > yes.


    Known problem since March-2007:
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=258698

    Nobody at Novell feel the need to fix that problem. I ask myself why they
    have alpha- and beta-testers if they don't like to fix the problem already
    reported in a early phase of the product release.

    Martin.
    --
    The darker the berry the sweeter the juice


  8. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Don Raboud wrote:

    > Godzilla wrote:
    >
    >> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root, but
    >> only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for password
    >> and will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after logging in
    >> to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected "root."

    >
    > How are you opening konsole? A menu entry? A Button?
    >
    > What happens if you use Alt+F2 and type 'konsole'? Do you get the same
    > behaviour?
    >

    Yes, same behavior entering from Alt+F2 as entering from menu entry.

    Godzilla

  9. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Martin Schnitkemper wrote:

    > · Godzilla schrieb:
    >
    >> Each time that I try to exit, a window comes up after a few seconds
    >> telling me that it is not responding to close or quit and asking if I
    >> really want out. Then, it accepts my wishes and closes Konsole when I say
    >> yes.

    >
    > Known problem since March-2007:
    > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=258698


    Thanks for the link.
    Now, maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I close applications running in
    console to prevent problems with corrupt files before I close console.

    This was good to do using 'xterm' and I just extended it to Konsole.



    --
    Regards,
    Rajko.

  10. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > Don Raboud wrote:
    >
    >> Godzilla wrote:
    >>
    >>> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root,
    >>> but only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for
    >>> password and will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after
    >>> logging in to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected
    >>> "root."

    >>
    >> How are you opening konsole? A menu entry? A Button?
    >>
    >> What happens if you use Alt+F2 and type 'konsole'? Do you get the same
    >> behaviour?
    >>

    > Yes, same behavior entering from Alt+F2 as entering from menu entry.


    Wow, strange.

    Does this happen for all users, or are you special?

    --
    Don


  11. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > Don Raboud wrote:
    >
    >> Godzilla wrote:
    >>
    >>> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root,
    >>> but only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for
    >>> password and will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after
    >>> logging in to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected
    >>> "root."


    Me again...

    In the file '.kde/share/config/konsolerc'

    is there a line

    DefaultSession=su.desktop?

    If so change it to

    DefaultSession=shell.desktop

    and see if that helps.


    --
    Don

  12. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Don Raboud wrote:

    > Godzilla wrote:
    >
    >> Don Raboud wrote:
    >>
    >>> Godzilla wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root,
    >>>> but only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for
    >>>> password and will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after
    >>>> logging in to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the expected
    >>>> "root."

    >
    > Me again...
    >
    > In the file '.kde/share/config/konsolerc'
    >
    > is there a line
    >
    > DefaultSession=su.desktop?
    >
    > If so change it to
    >
    > DefaultSession=shell.desktop
    >
    > and see if that helps.
    >
    >


    You hit the right nail on the head!!! That did it! Now, I get into Konsole
    as user AND it comes up with the green on black that I set as default, but
    never got before.

    Many thanks for your help.

    Godzilla

  13. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    > Don Raboud wrote:
    >
    >> Godzilla wrote:
    >>
    >>> Don Raboud wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Godzilla wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root,
    >>>>> but only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for
    >>>>> password and will not run unless I give the root password. Then, after
    >>>>> logging in to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the
    >>>>> expected "root."

    >>
    >> Me again...
    >>
    >> In the file '.kde/share/config/konsolerc'
    >>
    >> is there a line
    >>
    >> DefaultSession=su.desktop?
    >>
    >> If so change it to
    >>
    >> DefaultSession=shell.desktop
    >>
    >> and see if that helps.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > You hit the right nail on the head!!! That did it! Now, I get into Konsole
    > as user AND it comes up with the green on black that I set as default, but
    > never got before.
    >
    > Many thanks for your help.
    >
    > Godzilla


    I hate to be the bearer of un-glad tidings so soon, but when I just went
    back into Konsole, the old behavior came back with the prompt for SU and
    the white screen! looking again at konsolrec, the DefaultSession went back
    to su.desktop. Do I have a gremlin on my computer, or is it necessary to
    edit the konsolrec as root? The ownership of that file is myself and the
    group is users. I am really puzzled now.

    Godzilla

  14. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    >>>>>> I was not clear in my response to you. I do not log into KDE as root,
    >>>>>> but only as user. However, when I open Konsole it always asks for
    >>>>>> password and will not run unless I give the root password. Then,
    >>>>>> after logging in to Konsole (as root) the command "whoami" gives the
    >>>>>> expected "root."
    >>>
    >>> In the file '.kde/share/config/konsolerc'
    >>>
    >>> is there a line
    >>>
    >>> DefaultSession=su.desktop?
    >>>
    >>> If so change it to
    >>>
    >>> DefaultSession=shell.desktop
    >>>
    >>> and see if that helps.

    >>
    >> You hit the right nail on the head!!! That did it! Now, I get into
    >> Konsole as user AND it comes up with the green on black that I set as
    >> default, but never got before.


    :-)

    > I hate to be the bearer of un-glad tidings so soon, but when I just went
    > back into Konsole, the old behavior came back with the prompt for SU and
    > the white screen!


    :-(

    > looking again at konsolrec, the DefaultSession went back
    > to su.desktop. Do I have a gremlin on my computer


    Gremlin most definitely!

    I am not sure what to suggest here, but some things to try:

    - What happens if you create a brand new user, does the same behavior occur?

    - Was this an update or a fresh install? (OK, not something to try but a
    question).

    - Instead of changing '.kde/share/config/konsolerc', just delete it (or move
    it somewhere else) and let the system create a new one. Maybe this
    will "stick".

    Finally, just to be clear, you change the file, save it and konsole works
    one time. The next time konsole does not work as expected and the file has
    reverted, correct? Out of curiosity, what happens if you change the file,
    save it and log out right out of KDE. Then log back in and check the file
    again before running konsole. What version of the file is there?



    > or is it necessary to edit the konsolrec as root?
    > The ownership of that file is myself and the group is users. I am really
    > puzzled now.


    The ownership and group sound right and you should not need to be root to
    edit this file. You could try to make it read only as a test, but that
    would be a temporary solution and should not be required. I am puzzled as
    well.

    --
    Don



  15. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Don Raboud wrote:

    >> looking again at konsolrec, the DefaultSession went back
    >> to su.desktop. Do I have a gremlin on my computer

    >
    > Gremlin most definitely!
    >
    > I am not sure what to suggest here, but some things to try:
    >
    > - What happens if you create a brand new user, does the same behavior
    > occur?
    >
    > - Was this an update or a fresh install? (OK, not something to try but a
    > question).
    >
    > - Instead of changing '.kde/share/config/konsolerc', just delete it (or
    > move it somewhere else) and let the system create a new one. *Maybe this
    > will "stick".
    >
    > Finally, just to be clear, you change the file, save it and konsole works
    > one time. *The next time konsole does not work as expected and the file
    > has reverted, correct? *Out of curiosity, what happens if you change the
    > file, save it and log out right out of KDE. Then log back in and check the
    > file again before running konsole. *What version of the file is there?


    I moved the file to /home and then rebooted the computer. The consolerc was
    re-created, but this time is identified as a "Desktop Config File" which I
    don't remember being the case before. I recall that it was a "Plain text
    document." However, the console is coming up correctly each time again. :-)
    My tentative conclusion is that the consolerc file was erroneously created
    as a text file in the first place, but that is only my guess.

    In any case, thanks again for your continued help. If it reverts to the
    strange behavior again, I think that I know where to get a cup of
    Hemlock. ;-)

    Godzilla

  16. Re: Problems with 10.3 Konsole

    Godzilla wrote:

    >> - Instead of changing '.kde/share/config/konsolerc', just delete it (or
    >> move it somewhere else) and let the system create a new one. *Maybe this
    >> will "stick".


    > I moved the file to /home and then rebooted the computer. The consolerc
    > was re-created, but this time is identified as a "Desktop Config File"
    > which I don't remember being the case before. I recall that it was a
    > "Plain text document." However, the console is coming up correctly each
    > time again. :-)


    Excellent.

    > My tentative conclusion is that the consolerc file was
    > erroneously created as a text file in the first place, but that is only my
    > guess.
    >
    > In any case, thanks again for your continued help. If it reverts to the
    > strange behavior again, I think that I know where to get a cup of
    > Hemlock. ;-)
    >
    > Godzilla


    Most welcome. Just don't attack any more cities OK?

    --
    Don



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