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  1. Out of Range problem...

    hai friends,

    I have installed Suse 10.1 as OS. I changed the resolution after
    installation and since then I am unable to start Linux as it is
    showing me "sync out of range".

    I tried to change my xorg.conf file thru the fail safe mode but even
    then I am unable to reset it.

    My default xorg.conf file is as follows:
    ---------------------
    Section "Monitor"
    DisplaySize 310 230
    HorizSync 30-71
    Identifier "Monitor[0]"
    ModelName "LG ELECTRONICS 700B"
    Option "DPMS"
    VendorName "GSM"
    VertRefresh 43-160
    UseModes "Modes[0]"
    EndSection

    Section "Modes"
    Identifier "Modes[0]"
    Modeline "1280x800" 123.38 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840
    Modeline "1280x800" 121.93 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840
    Modeline "1280x800" 120.33 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 839
    Modeline "1280x800" 122.87 1280 1368 1504 1728 768 769 772 808
    Modeline "1280x800" 121.47 1280 1368 1504 1728 768 769 772 808
    Modeline "1280x800" 119.93 1280 1368 1504 1728 768 769 772 807
    Modeline "1024x768" 97.84 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 808
    Modeline "1024x768" 96.73 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 808
    Modeline "1280x600" 122.76 1280 1368 1504 1728 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "1280x600" 121.65 1280 1368 1504 1728 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "1280x600" 120.36 1280 1368 1504 1728 600 601 604 639
    Modeline "1024x600" 97.75 1024 1088 1200 1376 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "1024x600" 96.87 1024 1088 1200 1376 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "1024x600" 95.84 1024 1088 1200 1376 600 601 604 639
    Modeline "800x600" 76.15 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "800x600" 75.47 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 640
    Modeline "800x600" 74.67 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 639
    Modeline "768x576" 74.31 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 616
    Modeline "768x576" 73.67 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 616
    Modeline "768x576" 73.03 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 616
    Modeline "640x480" 61.55 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 520
    Modeline "640x480" 61.10 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 520
    Modeline "640x480" 60.65 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 520
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600"
    "768x576" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600"
    "768x576" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600"
    "768x576" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600"
    "768x576" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    Device "Device[0]"
    Idenifier "Screen[0]"
    Monitor "Monitor[0]"
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    BoardName "865 G"
    BusId "0:2:0"
    Driver "i810"
    Identifier "Device[0]"
    Screen 0
    VendorName "Intel"
    EndSection
    ---------------------------

    I tried to change the defaultdepth to 15 and mode as 800x600 but HF
    comes out to be 72.4 and the VF as 115.
    I tried to increase the range of horizSync to 30-90 but even then the
    result is the same.
    Is there any hardware problem or do I need to reinstall Linux again

    How to change the settings
    Thanks in advance!!!


  2. Re: Out of Range problem...

    Gurur wrote:
    > hai friends,
    >
    > I have installed Suse 10.1 as OS. I changed the resolution after
    > installation and since then I am unable to start Linux as it is
    > showing me "sync out of range".
    >
    > I tried to change my xorg.conf file thru the fail safe mode but even
    > then I am unable to reset it.



    How to confiure the GUI.

    This answers how to configure the GUI when an installation or an upgrade
    does not show the GUI correctly. It will asume an installed system that
    (as far as you know) works perfectly.

    You will need root priveliges (know the root password) and the technical
    settings of your screen, so get that manual. If you don't have the
    manual, look it up. You are able tro post, so you have Internet
    connection.

    First do [CTRL][ALT][F1] to go to textmode. Don't be afraid, it is
    nothing scary. As user type `root` and type your password for root.
    Next type `init 3`. This will bring you to 100% textmode.
    Now run the command `sax2` and you should be able to configure your
    screen.
    If you do not find your screen and/or do not know your settings, start
    with the lowest ones and build your way up.

    When you have set up your screen and tested it, you just run the
    following command `init 5 && exit`. That will start up the GUI and if
    OK, log you out as root.

    If you still can't run the GUI but can run sax2 and the test at the end
    of sax2, it ain't a standard X issue.

    It can also be possible that sax2 does not work. Then you do `man sax2`
    and read it. Realy read it, because there will be a quiz later.

    Some ways to run SaX2 if the above does not work:
    `sax2 -b /usr/share/sax/profile/SomeProfil`
    Mainly for dual screen situations where the dual screen is not
    recognised.
    `sax2 -l` (Lowercase L not number one)
    For the lower resolution to be default. This can be usefull with
    newer screens that are not standard and did not bother to tell
    your software about the size it can handle
    `sax2 --vesa 0:1024x768@60`
    Run screen 0 (the first screen, 1 is the second) in resolution
    1024x768 at 60 Hz. Should be OK for most if not all LCD screens.

    Run the above and configure your screen(s). If it still ain't working,
    re-read the `sax2 man` page and try some of the other settings.

    If it does work, do `init 5 && exit`.

    Still problems? You can manualy configure it as well. Take a lot more
    information, so get back and tell us what you have done, your videocard
    and screen information, together with your SUSE version and wether or
    not it used to run before and if you have done an update of your system
    and if so, how.

    Aditional information might be needed as well.

    houghi
    --
    It's people. Source code is made out of people! They're making our
    source out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle
    for code. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!

  3. Re: Out of Range problem...

    Gurur did eloquently scribble:
    > hai friends,


    > I have installed Suse 10.1 as OS. I changed the resolution after
    > installation and since then I am unable to start Linux as it is
    > showing me "sync out of range".


    Well, it seems you know how to get around the X autostart thing..
    Try reducing the range? on the horizontal sync?
    Narrow it, try 40-70, 40-60 until it works perhaps?
    > ---------------------------


    > I tried to change the defaultdepth to 15 and mode as 800x600 but HF
    > comes out to be 72.4 and the VF as 115.
    > I tried to increase the range of horizSync to 30-90 but even then the
    > result is the same.


    If the sync's out of range, you should be reducing it, not increasing.
    It's the monitor that's out of sync range. If it detects a card setting too
    high or low it turns off to protect itself.
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  4. Re: Out of Range problem...

    spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:
    > Gurur did eloquently scribble:
    >> hai friends,

    >
    >> I have installed Suse 10.1 as OS. I changed the resolution after
    >> installation and since then I am unable to start Linux as it is
    >> showing me "sync out of range".

    >
    > Well, it seems you know how to get around the X autostart thing..
    > Try reducing the range? on the horizontal sync?
    > Narrow it, try 40-70, 40-60 until it works perhaps?
    >> ---------------------------

    >
    >> I tried to change the defaultdepth to 15 and mode as 800x600 but HF
    >> comes out to be 72.4 and the VF as 115.
    >> I tried to increase the range of horizSync to 30-90 but even then the
    >> result is the same.

    >
    > If the sync's out of range, you should be reducing it, not increasing.
    > It's the monitor that's out of sync range. If it detects a card setting too
    > high or low it turns off to protect itself.


    One possibility is to download the proprietary driver for your graphics
    card from the manufacturer's website (nvidia, ATI, etc) & follow the
    instructions there. The Nvidia script will set your X-configuration
    values for you (ATI might but I haven't used them recently). The default
    graphics drivers supplied with SuSE 10.1 are a bit limited.
    HTH

  5. Re: Out of Range problem...

    >
    > First do [CTRL][ALT][F1] to go to textmode. Don't be afraid, it is
    > nothing scary. As user type `root` and type your password for root.
    > Next type `init 3`. This will bring you to 100% textmode.
    > Now run the command `sax2` and you should be able to configure your
    > screen.
    > If you do not find your screen and/or do not know your settings, start
    > with the lowest ones and build your way up.
    >


    An easier way would be to boot up in Runlevel 3. How? I have a 5
    second wait set when I am booting, you probably do as well. During
    these 5 seconds, simply type in '3' and then 'enter'. Then I'd sign
    in as root and type in 'SaX2'. It allows you to test a new X-Config
    and if you don't like it, revert to the old one.
    According to 'man SaX2', SaX2 uses hardware detection for the screen
    modes rather than relying on the existing config. Unless you tell it
    to use the existing one - something you have no intention of doing.


  6. Re: Out of Range problem...

    Vlad_Inhaler wrote:
    > An easier way would be to boot up in Runlevel 3. How? I have a 5
    > second wait set when I am booting, you probably do as well. During
    > these 5 seconds, simply type in '3' and then 'enter'. Then I'd sign
    > in as root and type in 'SaX2'. It allows you to test a new X-Config
    > and if you don't like it, revert to the old one.


    Well, that would require you to reboot. Also many people miss those few
    seconds (standard is 8) or get confused where to excatly type '3'

    So even if it is technicaly easier, there are a few ifs and buts to be
    answerd. That makes it on a social skill level easier to explain
    [CTRL][ALT][F1] and then init 3, because that will work each and every
    time. It avoids some problems and that is the reason I advice using it.

    houghi
    --
    It's people. Source code is made out of people! They're making our
    source out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle
    for code. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!

  7. Re: Out of Range problem...

    On Jul 2, 7:13 pm, houghi wrote:
    > Vlad_Inhaler wrote:
    > > An easier way would be to boot up in Runlevel 3. How? I have a 5
    > > second wait set when I am booting, you probably do as well. During
    > > these 5 seconds, simply type in '3' and then 'enter'. Then I'd sign
    > > in as root and type in 'SaX2'. It allows you to test a new X-Config
    > > and if you don't like it, revert to the old one.

    >
    > Well, that would require you to reboot. Also many people miss those few
    > seconds (standard is 8) or get confused where to excatly type '3'
    >
    > So even if it is technicaly easier, there are a few ifs and buts to be
    > answerd. That makes it on a social skill level easier to explain
    > [CTRL][ALT][F1] and then init 3, because that will work each and every
    > time. It avoids some problems and that is the reason I advice using it.
    >
    > houghi
    > --
    > It's people. Source code is made out of people! They're making our
    > source out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle
    > for code. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!


    His Linux system is unusable. A reboot is a given.
    What was that stupid thread recently about people posting to a Linux
    group using Windows? The agent here is
    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR
    1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    Was 'Linux System unusable' one of the options?
    (I have looked up Windows problems while under Linux more often than
    the other way around)


  8. Re: Out of Range problem...

    Vlad_Inhaler wrote:
    > His Linux system is unusable. A reboot is a given.


    No, it isn't and even if it is _I_ think that using CTRL+ALT+F1 is still
    easier. So reboot, no need to pay attention to when and where exactly he
    needs to type the '3'

    > What was that stupid thread recently about people posting to a Linux
    > group using Windows? The agent here is
    > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR
    > 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    > Was 'Linux System unusable' one of the options?
    > (I have looked up Windows problems while under Linux more often than
    > the other way around)


    Just yesterday I did this. Had somebody with Windows online. His video
    card was wrongly recognised. So he was 'posting' with Windows, had an
    'unusable' Linux. Did the procedure as described above. Problem solved
    and no need for a reboot.

    But please if you think that that is an easier way to do it, go ahead
    and do it that way. I think not rebooting and having just one procedure
    is easier then rebooting and having several procedures. But that is just
    silly me.

    houghi
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