houghi wrote:
>Paul J Gans wrote:
>>>What is the advantage over 2.0.0.2Pre I am currently running? I see the
>>>latest version is 2.0.0.4 and I can't get away from the feeling that
>>>there is no actual advantage.
>>
>> Bugfixes and security fixes.

>They are provided by openSUSE, as far as I know.

By NOT updating the version number the OpenSuse folks create
all sorts of difficulties -- and gain nothing.

I went to linux many years ago so that I could put what
programs I want on my computer. Many distributions are
attempting to make that difficult.

There is no point in discussing this yet again. I
want to be able to replace non-essential programs
in OpenSuse when *I* want to replace them. I don't
want OpenSuse to get in the middle.

You have different aims. I respect that.

Enough said.

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--- Paul J. Gans

Paul J Gans wrote:
> By NOT updating the version number the OpenSuse folks create
> all sorts of difficulties -- and gain nothing.

That is THEIR problem, not mine. They do gain things. It has been
discussed in the mailinglist. Look it up if you desire.

> I went to linux many years ago so that I could put what
> programs I want on my computer. Many distributions are
> attempting to make that difficult.

I think you try to make it dificult to yourself. ;-)

> There is no point in discussing this yet again. I
> want to be able to replace non-essential programs
> in OpenSuse when *I* want to replace them. I don't
> want OpenSuse to get in the middle.

So the don't let it.

> You have different aims. I respect that.

What I think that you do is that you do want openSUSE to do things for
you, but in a way that YOU want it done. That is possible by making your
own (local) repository.

First start with a minimal install. That way you won't have many of the
openSUSE things. Next download (or recompile) al the RPM's you want from
their original sources. Run createrepo and you are done.

Obviously the best thing not to have openSUSE butt in is not to let
openSUSE run on your machine. I seriously doubt wether openSUSE is the
right distro for you. There are so many things where you have a
different idea on how things should run that if it where me, I would be
looking at another distro.



houghi
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houghi wrote:
>Paul J Gans wrote:
>> By NOT updating the version number the OpenSuse folks create
>> all sorts of difficulties -- and gain nothing.

>That is THEIR problem, not mine. They do gain things. It has been
>discussed in the mailinglist. Look it up if you desire.

That is right. But when your version of OpenSuse says 2.0.0.2
you don't know which features of 2.0.0.4 have been patched into
it and which have not.

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--- Paul J. Gans

Paul J Gans wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>>Paul J Gans wrote:
>>> By NOT updating the version number the OpenSuse folks create
>>> all sorts of difficulties -- and gain nothing.
>
>>That is THEIR problem, not mine. They do gain things. It has been
>>discussed in the mailinglist. Look it up if you desire.
>
> That is right. But when your version of OpenSuse says 2.0.0.2
> you don't know which features of 2.0.0.4 have been patched into
> it and which have not.

Security patches and yes, I do know if I want to know. I read the
security anouncements sometimes. So ther information is available.

houghi
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