10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

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Old 10-30-2008, 08:25 AM
Default 10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

I've so far found only one suitable 10G CX4 adapter
for use with the Sun Fire X4500, the:

Neterion Xframe II Sun Fire CX4 PCI-X

Are there other alternatives that I've missed?

(I want the CX4 interface, not fiber. Solaris driver
support required)

- Peter
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Old 10-30-2008, 03:16 PM
Default Re: 10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

Peter Eriksson wrote:
> I've so far found only one suitable 10G CX4 adapter
> for use with the Sun Fire X4500, the:
>
> Neterion Xframe II Sun Fire CX4 PCI-X
>
> Are there other alternatives that I've missed?
>
> (I want the CX4 interface, not fiber. Solaris driver
> support required)
>
> - Peter


I'm not sure on the drivers, but you may want to look at:

http://www.intel.com/Products/Server...4-overview.htm

The chipset is similar to the sun offered 10GBe card with optical ports
based off a similar chipset:

http://www.sun.com/products/networki...el/support.xml

Intel had/has a good developer/evaluation program that might be worth
checking out if you want to try out a costly card, and just send it back
if it doesn't cut it for you.


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Old 10-31-2008, 04:14 AM
Default Re: 10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

Cydrome Leader writes:

>I'm not sure on the drivers, but you may want to look at:


>http://www.intel.com/Products/Server...4-overview.htm


>The chipset is similar to the sun offered 10GBe card with optical ports
>based off a similar chipset:


I've seen that one (and almost bought one), but as far as I can tell
it isn't a low-profile variant, and thus won't fit in the X4500...

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Old 10-31-2008, 11:49 AM
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Peter Eriksson wrote:
> Cydrome Leader writes:
>
>>I'm not sure on the drivers, but you may want to look at:

>
>>http://www.intel.com/Products/Server...4-overview.htm

>
>>The chipset is similar to the sun offered 10GBe card with optical ports
>>based off a similar chipset:

>
> I've seen that one (and almost bought one), but as far as I can tell
> it isn't a low-profile variant, and thus won't fit in the X4500...
>
> - Peter


Good point- that's card is a monster in size.

It's really too bad nobody has tiny xenpak modules that take copper. I've
read about super short distance 10GBe over cat6+, but never seen the
modules, if they exist.

The full sized xenpak transcievers, copper or fiber are huge monsters.
That CX4 cable is like working with a serial cable from IBM from the
1980s.

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:59 PM
Default Re: 10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

In no particular order and with no idea of whether they have Solaris
drivers or CX4 cards which are low-profile, here are a few of the
company names I've come across (in alphabetical order, nothing more):

*) ChelsIO
*) Myricom
*) NetEffect
*) Neterion
*) NetXen
*) ServerEngines

I suspect that slapping "www." in front of those and ".com" at the end
will have a good chance of finding their websites.

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Old 10-31-2008, 03:02 PM
Default Re: 10G CX4 ethernet for X4500

Rick Jones wrote:
> In no particular order and with no idea of whether they have Solaris
> drivers or CX4 cards which are low-profile, here are a few of the
> company names I've come across (in alphabetical order, nothing more):
>
> *) ChelsIO
> *) Myricom


http://www.myri.com/Myri-10G/NIC/10G-PCIE-8A-C.html

I didn't know they made ethernet stuff- though it was all that infiniband
clusting stuff.

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Old 11-03-2008, 03:31 AM
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Cydrome Leader writes:

>Rick Jones wrote:
>> In no particular order and with no idea of whether they have Solaris
>> drivers or CX4 cards which are low-profile, here are a few of the
>> company names I've come across (in alphabetical order, nothing more):
>>
>> *) ChelsIO
>> *) Myricom


>http://www.myri.com/Myri-10G/NIC/10G-PCIE-8A-C.html


Wrong bus though (needs to be PCI-X, not PCI-e :-)...

Only Neterion seems to make a suitable adapter of the makers in that list.

Ah well..

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Old 11-04-2008, 05:04 PM
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Peter Eriksson wrote:
> Wrong bus though (needs to be PCI-X, not PCI-e :-)...


I'd not realized it was only a pair of low-profile 133 MHz PCI-X slots
in the X4500:

http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/specs.xml#anchor3

That being the case, no matter how much "oomph" you have to drive the
card and how much bandwidth to the slot, being 133 MHz PCI-X will
limit you to a total of no more than about 7 Gbit/s and change total.

Of course, that does presume you have enough "oomph" to drive to that
level. A bit of quick netperf testing should show that one way or the
other

> Only Neterion seems to make a suitable adapter of the makers in that
> list.


I've played with a low-profile Neterion card before, I cannot recall
if it was in a system running Solaris or not, but Neterion's
Support/download page utters the word Solaris.

After going back and looking at my list, I think that Intel might have
had a low-profile PCI-X 10G NIC at one point.

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