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  1. Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    I've just gotten around to using my Ultra10 3DC machine after I
    installed Solaris 10 on it in January. I have one question: Will adding
    more RAM to this thing (it's currently at 256MB) get it to run 10 any
    faster??? Good grief! It's about as slow as running XP on a 486 at
    times. Should I even be running 10 or should I roll it back to Solaris
    9 (which ran just fine)?


  2. Re: Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    HI,

    george.jones@gdc4s.com wrote:
    > I've just gotten around to using my Ultra10 3DC machine after I
    > installed Solaris 10 on it in January. I have one question: Will adding
    > more RAM to this thing (it's currently at 256MB) get it to run 10 any
    > faster??? Good grief! It's about as slow as running XP on a 486 at
    > times. Should I even be running 10 or should I roll it back to Solaris
    > 9 (which ran just fine)?
    >

    Hmm, I don't find S10 that much lower that S9!

    What desktop are you using, CDE or JDS or some other?

    One way to figure out what the problem is to use vmstat

    $ vmstat 1 and let it run in a shell while you using the machine.

    If the disk-sr field is moving alot then you are out of memory.

    If the procs-r field is above 0 then CPU busy and processes are waiting
    for CPU resources.


    Post you vmstat in this NG.


    /michael

  3. Re: Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    Michael Laajanen wrote:
    > HI,
    >
    > george.jones@gdc4s.com wrote:
    >
    >> I've just gotten around to using my Ultra10 3DC machine after I
    >> installed Solaris 10 on it in January. I have one question: Will adding
    >> more RAM to this thing (it's currently at 256MB) get it to run 10 any
    >> faster??? Good grief! It's about as slow as running XP on a 486 at
    >> times. Should I even be running 10 or should I roll it back to Solaris
    >> 9 (which ran just fine)?
    >>

    > Hmm, I don't find S10 that much lower that S9!
    >
    > What desktop are you using, CDE or JDS or some other?
    >
    > One way to figure out what the problem is to use vmstat
    >
    > $ vmstat 1 and let it run in a shell while you using the machine.
    >
    > If the disk-sr field is moving alot then you are out of memory.



    I don't think it is correct to call it disk-sr, since the scan rate has nothing
    to do with the disks. Surely 'sr' field is more accurate.


    kthr memory page disk faults cpu
    r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s0 s3 s6 in sy cs us sy id
    0 0 0 4798624 3188432 5 42 32 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 744 1075 641 2 1 97
    0 0 0 4506688 2912160 0 314 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 724 2633 1218 5 3 93



    > If the procs-r field is above 0 then CPU busy and processes are waiting
    > for CPU resources.



    There is no procs-r field. I assume you mean kthr-r ?

    This box is currently running a CPU intensive task and is limited by lack of CPU
    power

    kthr memory page disk faults cpu
    r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s0 s3 s6 in sy cs us sy id
    0 0 0 4798168 3187992 5 42 32 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 744 1076 641 2 1 97
    0 0 0 4472240 2867176 0 69 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 778 2615 1188 30 2 68
    0 0 0 4472240 2867176 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 746 1966 885 28 1 71

    although that is not so easy to tell, since it looks like about 70% of the CPU
    power is idle. But that 70% is made up of 3 processors which are idle, while the
    fourth is running a CPU bound process.

    --
    Dave K MCSE.

    MCSE = Minefield Consultant and Solitaire Expert.

    Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
    It is always of the form: month-year@domain. Hitting reply will work
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  4. Re: Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    HI,

    Dave (from the UK) wrote:
    > Michael Laajanen wrote:
    >
    >> HI,
    >>
    >> george.jones@gdc4s.com wrote:

    >



    >
    > I don't think it is correct to call it disk-sr, since the scan rate has
    > nothing to do with the disks. Surely 'sr' field is more accurate.
    >
    >
    > kthr memory page disk faults cpu
    > r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s0 s3 s6 in sy cs us
    > sy id
    > 0 0 0 4798624 3188432 5 42 32 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 744 1075 641
    > 2 1 97
    > 0 0 0 4506688 2912160 0 314 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 724 2633 1218
    > 5 3 93

    My mistake of the column name, again


    >
    >
    >
    >> If the procs-r field is above 0 then CPU busy and processes are
    >> waiting for CPU resources.

    >
    >
    >
    > There is no procs-r field. I assume you mean kthr-r ?

    I have not noticed the change(S9->S10) of the name of that column!

    >
    > This box is currently running a CPU intensive task and is limited by
    > lack of CPU power
    >
    > kthr memory page disk faults cpu
    > r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s0 s3 s6 in sy cs us
    > sy id
    > 0 0 0 4798168 3187992 5 42 32 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 744 1076 641
    > 2 1 97
    > 0 0 0 4472240 2867176 0 69 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 778 2615 1188
    > 30 2 68
    > 0 0 0 4472240 2867176 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 746 1966 885
    > 28 1 71
    >
    > although that is not so easy to tell, since it looks like about 70% of
    > the CPU power is idle. But that 70% is made up of 3 processors which are
    > idle, while the fourth is running a CPU bound process.
    >

    Right, and having more than one on that system is no point since no
    other process is runable.

    /michael

  5. Re: Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    In article <1144959181.760562.274610@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups. com>,
    "george.jones@gdc4s.com" writes:
    > I've just gotten around to using my Ultra10 3DC machine after I
    > installed Solaris 10 on it in January. I have one question: Will adding
    > more RAM to this thing (it's currently at 256MB) get it to run 10 any
    > faster??? Good grief! It's about as slow as running XP on a 486 at
    > times. Should I even be running 10 or should I roll it back to Solaris
    > 9 (which ran just fine)?


    Depends what you're doing on it. If you're doing *exactly* the same
    thing then the chances are that Solaris 10 will be faster. The chances
    are that you aren't doing the same thing.

    If you stick to CDE then you should be fine. Try running JDS, mozilla,
    anything in Java, staroffice, and you'll find that 256M of memory is
    nowhere near enough. I'm not sure that a modern desktop machine - by
    which I means a machine that runs something like JDS, mozilla, and
    staroffice - can get away with less than a gig of memory.

    --
    -Peter Tribble
    L.I.S., University of Hertfordshire - http://www.herts.ac.uk/
    http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/

  6. Re: Ultra 10 3D Creator 440MHz - slow???

    george.jones@gdc4s.com wrote:
    > I've just gotten around to using my Ultra10 3DC machine after I
    > installed Solaris 10 on it in January. I have one question: Will adding
    > more RAM to this thing (it's currently at 256MB) get it to run 10 any
    > faster??? Good grief! It's about as slow as running XP on a 486 at
    > times. Should I even be running 10 or should I roll it back to Solaris
    > 9 (which ran just fine)?
    >


    It really does depend on how large of work you are doing... (whether
    or not a RAM increase will be effective). If you're not paging out
    to disk, then probably not. It's not as bad as a 486.... I think
    that's an exaggeration. Perhaps comparing it to a PII?? It certainly
    isn't fast by today's standards.

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