Finding Jumper Settings For Older Drives

#1 11-02-2008, 11:11 PM

I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm

Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

#2 11-03-2008, 01:12 AM

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
wrote:

>I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
>Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
>http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
>
>Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
>jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Darren Harris
>Staten Island, New York.

#3 11-03-2008, 01:29 AM

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
>Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
>http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
>http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
>
>Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
>jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?

Try the Wayback Machine:
http://web.archive.org

SCSI Hard Disk Drive Support:
http://web.archive.org/web/200010162...pport_scsi.htm

This is Quantum's original support page for your model:
http://web.archive.org/web/200102080...si_support.htm

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

#4 11-03-2008, 01:50 AM

On Nov 3, 1:29 am, Franc Zabkar wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
> >Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
> >http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
> >http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
>
> >Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
> >jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?
>
> Try the Wayback Machine:http://web.archive.org
>
> SCSI Hard Disk Drive Support:http://web.archive.org/web/200010162...om/support/hdd...
>
> This is Quantum's original support page for your model:http://web.archive.org/web/200102080...om/support/hdd...
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

I've gone through those sites, and unfortunately I'm no closer to
getting one of my systems to see this drive.

Perhaps the six pairs of pins have no effect on whether this drive is
a master or slave?

I added a SCSI card to the PC and the drive (model number TY18L011)
drive model number briefly shows up on the very first screen when the
BIOS is loading, but it is not found in Set-up. ???

I am using an LVD/SE Ultra2 SCSI cable that is terminated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

#5 11-03-2008, 08:01 AM

Previously Searcher7 wrote:
> On Nov 3, 1:29 am, Franc Zabkar wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
>> >Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
>> >http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
>> >http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
>>
>> >Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
>> >jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?
>>
>> Try the Wayback Machine:http://web.archive.org
>>
>> SCSI Hard Disk Drive Support:http://web.archive.org/web/200010162...om/support/hdd...
>>
>> This is Quantum's original support page for your model:http://web.archive.org/web/200102080...om/support/hdd...
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> I've gone through those sites, and unfortunately I'm no closer to
> getting one of my systems to see this drive.

> Perhaps the six pairs of pins have no effect on whether this drive is
> a master or slave?

The concept of master or slave does not exists in SCSI. You have
an SCSI ID for every device (including the controller) and every
device is allowed to initiate a buis transfer. Typically
only a controller does, but you hav have several controllers in
one bus as well. This is no el-cheapo bus as (S)ATA, it is closer
to a LAN in some respects.

> I added a SCSI card to the PC and the drive (model number TY18L011)
> drive model number briefly shows up on the very first screen when the
> BIOS is loading, but it is not found in Set-up. ???

> I am using an LVD/SE Ultra2 SCSI cable that is terminated.

SCSI setup is tricky. What exactly does the initial message show?

Arno

#6 11-03-2008, 06:25 PM

Searcher7 wrote in news:90a48f38-f3e3-4a45-8b19-78d0acb389f6@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com
> On Nov 3, 1:29 am, Franc Zabkar wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
> >
> > > I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
> > > Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
> > > http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
> > > http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
> >
> > > Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
> > > jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?
> >
> > Try the Wayback Machine:http://web.archive.org
> >
> > SCSI Hard Disk Drive Support:http://web.archive.org/web/200010162...om/support/hdd...
> >
> > This is Quantum's original support page for your model:http://web.archive.org/web/200102080...om/support/hdd...
> >
> > - Franc Zabkar
> > --
> > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> I've gone through those sites, and unfortunately I'm no closer to
> getting one of my systems to see this drive.

> Perhaps the six pairs of pins have no effect on whether this drive is
> a master or slave?

And neither does the '14 pairs of pins'.

The 12-pin connector is for a cabinet switch and LED cable assembly.

The SCSI ID jumpers are on the 28-pin jumper row.

>
> I added a SCSI card to the PC and the drive (model number TY18L011)
> drive model number briefly shows up on the very first screen when the
> BIOS is loading, but it is not found in Set-up. ???

What 'Set-up'?

>
> I am using an LVD/SE Ultra2 SCSI cable that is terminated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.

#7 11-03-2008, 06:25 PM

Arno Wagner wrote in news:6n8b1pFk6ltfU1@mid.individual.net
> Previously Searcher7 wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 1:29 am, Franc Zabkar wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:11:52 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
> > > put finger to keyboard and composed:
> > >
> > > > I've been searching for the manual and jumper settings for a Quantum
> > > > Atlas10kII SCSI drive and the best I could find were the following:
> > > > http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...8p/Jumpers.htm
> > > > http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...atlas10kii.htm
> > >
> > > > Can anyone direct me to any sites where I may find these settings, or
> > > > jumper settings (and manuals) for older drives in general?
> > >
> > > Try the Wayback Machine:http://web.archive.org
> > >
> > > SCSI Hard Disk Drive Support:http://web.archive.org/web/200010162...om/support/hdd...
> > >
> > > This is Quantum's original support page for your
> > > model:http://web.archive.org/web/200102080...om/support/hdd...
> > >
> > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > --
> > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> > I've gone through those sites, and unfortunately I'm no closer to
> > getting one of my systems to see this drive.
>
> > Perhaps the six pairs of pins have no effect on whether this drive is
> > a master or slave?
>
> The concept of master or slave does not exists in SCSI. You have
> an SCSI ID for every device (including the controller) and every
> device is allowed to initiate a buis transfer. Typically only a con-
> troller does, but you hav have several controllers in one bus as well.

> This is no el-cheapo bus as (S)ATA,

Like that SATA is an El Cheapo bus. It's also a SCSI bus.

> it is closer to a LAN in some respects.

Now there's El Cheapo.

>
> > I added a SCSI card to the PC and the drive (model number TY18L011)
> > drive model number briefly shows up on the very first screen when the
> > BIOS is loading, but it is not found in Set-up. ???
>
> > I am using an LVD/SE Ultra2 SCSI cable that is terminated.

> SCSI setup is tricky.

No, it isn't.

> What exactly does the initial message show?
>
> Arno