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Old 08-27-2008, 02:51 PM
Default Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
interupted?

Thanks for any advice?
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:19 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

There's no such thing as a FAST backup utility, but Acronis is certainly
faster than Windows Backup. And more secure, easier to restore whole
partitions or just versions of files, etc. And, as you'll note here, the
Home version supports 64-bit.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...uirements.html

Try the 15-day trial (though it certainly isn't long enough to decently work
out a backup system, it will give you an idea of what speeds you might
attain), and if you decide to buy, get it here. Cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...onis&x=15&y=26

TinyURL for above link = http://tinyurl.com/5cad33

Another one I'd consider is:
Image for Windows
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
However, note this line at the bottom of the product description:
"Compatible with Win64 (x64) (AMD64/EM64T) but not with IA64, GPTs, nor
Dynamic Drives."

And while I hate Symantec to an unhealthy degree, many users swear by Ghost.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"wrreisen2" wrote in message
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> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?
>
> Thanks for any advice?



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Old 08-27-2008, 04:02 PM
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wrreisen2 wrote in
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> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?
>
> Thanks for any advice?


If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing
up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup *only*
your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just *your*
documents full stop.

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Old 08-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

On Aug 27, 11:51*am, wrreisen2 wrote:
> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?


Google is your friend.

Google "copying file in use" ....

http://alt.pluralsight.com/wiki/defa.../HoboCopy.html
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Old 08-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Baloney. Purely ignorant BS.

And why the Follow-up setting? More ignorance? Header is fixed.

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MS-MVP Shell/User
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"chuckcar" wrote in message
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> wrreisen2 wrote in
> news:5f972ebc-b1d6-404d-b622-d4d6d523b955@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
>> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
>> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
>> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
>> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
>> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
>> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
>> interupted?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice?

>
> If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing
> up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup *only*
> your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just *your*
> documents full stop.
>
> --
> (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )



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Old 08-27-2008, 05:57 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,
and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend backup
software for xp x64 that is quick."

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harry" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:51 am, wrreisen2 wrote:
> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?


Google is your friend.

Google "copying file in use" ....

http://alt.pluralsight.com/wiki/defa.../HoboCopy.html


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Old 08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>
>Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,
>and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend backup
>software for xp x64 that is quick."


The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by
failure due to "file in use."

If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.



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Old 08-27-2008, 08:52 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
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> Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right
> question, and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please
> recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick."
>

You want a quick answer, I'll give you a quick answer: pkzip. There,
happy now?


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Old 08-27-2008, 08:52 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
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"chuckcar" wrote in message
news:Xns9B079F0A5B7DFchucknilcar@127.0.0.1...
> wrreisen2 wrote in
> news:5f972ebc-b1d6-404d-b622-d4d6d523b955@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have
>> been using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
>> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk.
>> The problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is
>> often interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be
>> in use and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as
>> fast as just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely
>> to be interupted?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice?

>
> If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing
> up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup
> *only* your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just
> *your* documents full stop.
>


> Baloney. Purely ignorant BS.
>

Completely useless criticism and completely wrong as well. You *install*
programs, you don't just copy them onto the hard drive. But then again,
I'm supposed to accept the word of a Top-posting OE droid? Hardly.

> And why the Follow-up setting?


Because *that's* the group I read. Restored to normal behavior.
>



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Old 08-27-2008, 11:41 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.



wrreisen2 wrote:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?
>
> Thanks for any advice?


http://www.arkeia.com/
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:54 PM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of
"backup software." Get your terminology straight.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harry331" wrote in message
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> Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>>
>>Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,
>>and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend
>>backup
>>software for xp x64 that is quick."

>
> The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by
> failure due to "file in use."
>
> If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.
>
>
>



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Old 08-28-2008, 12:32 AM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>
>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of
>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.


And what has your answer anything to do with my answer?

What do you mean by my terminoloy ? I mentioned Google.
I mentioned "file in use." I did not mention "backup software."

What the **** is wrong with you?

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Old 08-28-2008, 12:41 AM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>
>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of
>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.


So you want to stick your ****ing head to the OP's subject line.
And you mentioned that "There's no such thing as a FAST backup utility."
Why the **** did you mentioned Acronis?

You are slapping your own ****ing mouth!!!

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Old 08-28-2008, 12:53 AM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>
>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of
>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.


Google "definition backup software."

http://www.google.ca/search?
hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Backup+software&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Definitions of Backup software on the Web:

Backup software is software designed to backup data for the purpose
of having a second copy of an original source in case of damage to
the ...

Copy/Paste does not contradict this definition.

Why don't you get your terminology straight?
The laugh is on you!



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Old 08-28-2008, 01:03 AM
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Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>
>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple.


Here is the OP's question.

Is there software that is as fast as just copying and pasting
folders in explorer but isn't likely to be interupted?

Your answer to the OP:
but Acronis is certainly faster than Windows Backup. And
more secure, easier to restore whole partitions or just versions
of files, etc.

So, the OP did not say "Windows Backup"; the OP mentioned "explorer."
The OP did not ask for "secure." The OP did not ask for "partitions."
The OP did not ask for "easirt to restore."

Your answer was actually Off Topic.
**** off, idiot!!!



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Old 08-28-2008, 01:46 AM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

Nope. Not interested in a stupid
dictionary-definitions-versus-real-world-usage argument.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harry331" wrote in message
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> Gary S. Terhune wrote...
>>
>>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form
>>of
>>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.

>
> Google "definition backup software."
>
> http://www.google.ca/search?
> hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Backup+software&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
>
> Definitions of Backup software on the Web:
>
> Backup software is software designed to backup data for the purpose
> of having a second copy of an original source in case of damage to
> the ...
>
> Copy/Paste does not contradict this definition.
>
> Why don't you get your terminology straight?
> The laugh is on you!
>
>
>



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Old 08-28-2008, 05:31 AM
Default Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

On Aug 27, 7:51*pm, wrreisen2 wrote:
> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> interupted?
>
> Thanks for any advice?


To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy. I
do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch
file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.

Backup speed is only part of the equation. The most important aspect
is that backup must be done on a very regular basis. Anything added
or changed between backups can be lost. I would therefore rate
automation before speed. I often get customers saying they were going
to backup their system next week.

I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get. They
monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically. Unless you
are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is
loaded, is reasonably quick. An initial upload may take a few weeks.

You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The
first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,
then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup of
your data files that are changing. One copy of the data should always
be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law, online
storage, always subject to any security issues on the data

Michael
www.cnwrecovery.com
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:45 AM
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On Aug 28, 9:31*pm, "mscotgr...@aol.com" wrote:
> On Aug 27, 7:51*pm, wrreisen2 wrote:
>
> > Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> > using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> > comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> > problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> > interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> > and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> > just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> > interupted?

>
> > Thanks for any advice?

>
> To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy. *I
> do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch
> file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.
>
> Backup speed is only part of the equation. *The most important aspect
> is that *backup must be done on a very regular basis. *Anything added
> or changed between backups can be lost. *I would therefore rate
> automation before speed. *I often get customers saying they were going
> to backup their system next week.
>
> I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get. *They
> monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically. *Unless you
> are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is
> loaded, is reasonably quick. *An initial upload may take a few weeks.
>
> You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The
> first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,
> then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup *of
> your data files that are changing. *One copy of the data should always
> be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law, *online
> storage, always subject to any security issues on the data
>
> Michaelwww.cnwrecovery.com


What if your drive fails and you then find the online backup company
went out of business the day before?
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:18 AM
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On Aug 28, 10:45*am, Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
> On Aug 28, 9:31*pm, "mscotgr...@aol.com" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 7:51*pm, wrreisen2 wrote:

>
> > > Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been
> > > using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in
> > > comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The
> > > problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often
> > > interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use
> > > and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as
> > > just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be
> > > interupted?

>
> > > Thanks for any advice?

>
> > To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy. *I
> > do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch
> > file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.

>
> > Backup speed is only part of the equation. *The most important aspect
> > is that *backup must be done on a very regular basis. *Anything added
> > or changed between backups can be lost. *I would therefore rate
> > automation before speed. *I often get customers saying they were going
> > to backup their system next week.

>
> > I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get. *They
> > monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically. *Unless you
> > are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is
> > loaded, is reasonably quick. *An initial upload may take a few weeks.

>
> > You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The
> > first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,
> > then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup *of
> > your data files that are changing. *One copy of the data should always
> > be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law, *online
> > storage, always subject to any security issues on the data

>
> > Michaelwww.cnwrecovery.com

>
> What if your drive fails and you then find the online backup company
> went out of business the day before?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


It is why you need multiple backups. The same case applies if you
backup to an external drive and they both fail, or you have a
lightening strike taking them both out.

The more backups, the less likely it is that they will all fail the
same time. Not getting round to backing up is in my opinion the
greatest risk, hence the requirement for automation.

Michael
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:55 AM
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:46:23 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>Nope. Not interested in a stupid
>dictionary-definitions-versus-real-world-usage argument.


Valid point but in this case, there is a difference. Copy/paste may
miss hidden files or open files, etc.. . Regardless tho, every is
entitled to backup (or not) files as they choose whether or not it is
the correct method.
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