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  1. Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Hello!

    I noticed most of the HDD controller errors occur during shutdown on my
    dad's old Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 notebook/laptop. A few of these
    errors even came up during the boot up. The computer only has one HDD, a
    D: DVD burner drive, and sometimes an external USB flash drive/stick.

    Exported Windows XP's System Event Logs with the sections that look
    suspicious can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/744908 ... I attached
    SpeedFan v4.32's online HTML SMART results (overall good) in this
    newsgroup post.

    What do you think? Thank you in advance.
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  2. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    S.M.A.R.T. hard disk status and hard disk failure preventionAnt wrote:
    > Hello!


    > I noticed most of the HDD controller errors occur during shutdown on my
    > dad's old Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 notebook/laptop. A few of these
    > errors even came up during the boot up. The computer only has one HDD,
    > a D: DVD burner drive, and sometimes an external USB flash drive/stick.


    > Exported Windows XP's System Event Logs with the sections that look
    > suspicious can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/744908 ... I attached
    > SpeedFan v4.32's online HTML SMART results (overall good) in this
    > newsgroup post.


    > What do you think?


    That the drive appears to be fine from the SMART report.

    The XP event log is likely just mindlessly rabbiting on about something that doesnt matter.

    I'd normally see what the diagnostic has to say in this
    situation, but thats likely a problem with a Toshiba laptop.

    > Thank you in advance.


    Stop smirking, boy.



  3. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    On 10/21/2007 7:02 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:

    >> I noticed most of the HDD controller errors occur during shutdown on my
    >> dad's old Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 notebook/laptop. A few of these
    >> errors even came up during the boot up. The computer only has one HDD,
    >> a D: DVD burner drive, and sometimes an external USB flash drive/stick.

    >
    >> Exported Windows XP's System Event Logs with the sections that look
    >> suspicious can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/744908 ... I attached
    >> SpeedFan v4.32's online HTML SMART results (overall good) in this
    >> newsgroup post.

    >
    >> What do you think?

    >
    > That the drive appears to be fine from the SMART report.
    >
    > The XP event log is likely just mindlessly rabbiting on about something that doesnt matter.
    >
    > I'd normally see what the diagnostic has to say in this
    > situation, but thats likely a problem with a Toshiba laptop.


    Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility? If so, then I
    will have to find it. [smirks for Rod]
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  4. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Ant wrote:
    > On 10/21/2007 7:02 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
    >
    >>> I noticed most of the HDD controller errors occur during shutdown
    >>> on my dad's old Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 notebook/laptop. A few
    >>> of these errors even came up during the boot up. The computer only
    >>> has one HDD, a D: DVD burner drive, and sometimes an external USB
    >>> flash drive/stick.

    >>
    >>> Exported Windows XP's System Event Logs with the sections that look
    >>> suspicious can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/744908 ... I
    >>> attached SpeedFan v4.32's online HTML SMART results (overall good)
    >>> in this newsgroup post.

    >>
    >>> What do you think?

    >>
    >> That the drive appears to be fine from the SMART report.
    >>
    >> The XP event log is likely just mindlessly rabbiting on about
    >> something that doesnt matter. I'd normally see what the diagnostic has to say in this
    >> situation, but thats likely a problem with a Toshiba laptop.


    > Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?


    Yep.

    > If so, then I will have to find it.


    Thats the hard part.



  5. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    On 10/22/2007 12:32 AM PT, Rod Speed typed:

    >> Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?

    >
    > Yep.
    >
    >> If so, then I will have to find it.

    >
    > Thats the hard part.


    Wait, do I want diagnostic program for the whole laptop/notebook or just
    the HDD?
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  6. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Ant wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote


    >>> Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?


    >> Yep.


    >>> If so, then I will have to find it.


    >> Thats the hard part.


    > Wait, do I want diagnostic program for the whole laptop/notebook or just the HDD?


    Whatever you can find, given the problem with toshiba and diags, and
    the fact that the event log is whining about a problem with the controller.
    In theory the HDD diag should cover that, bit it may well not see a
    problem given that the event log only whines about it at shutdown.



  7. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Just the hard drive.

    You are looking for something that does not exist.


    Ant wrote:
    > On 10/22/2007 12:32 AM PT, Rod Speed typed:
    >
    >>> Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?

    >>
    >> Yep.
    >>
    >>> If so, then I will have to find it.

    >>
    >> Thats the hard part.

    >
    > Wait, do I want diagnostic program for the whole laptop/notebook or just
    > the HDD?


  8. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Are you saying Toshiba doesn't make HDD utilities?


    On 10/22/2007 12:04 PM PT, Barry Watzman typed:

    > Just the hard drive.
    >
    > You are looking for something that does not exist.
    >
    >
    > Ant wrote:
    >> On 10/22/2007 12:32 AM PT, Rod Speed typed:
    >>
    >>>> Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?
    >>>
    >>> Yep.
    >>>
    >>>> If so, then I will have to find it.
    >>>
    >>> Thats the hard part.

    >>
    >> Wait, do I want diagnostic program for the whole laptop/notebook or
    >> just the HDD?

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  9. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics for
    their hard drives.

    Ant wrote:
    > Are you saying Toshiba doesn't make HDD utilities?
    >
    >
    > On 10/22/2007 12:04 PM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >
    >> Just the hard drive.
    >>
    >> You are looking for something that does not exist.
    >>
    >>
    >> Ant wrote:
    >>> On 10/22/2007 12:32 AM PT, Rod Speed typed:
    >>>
    >>>>> Are you talking about the Toshiba's diagnostics utility?
    >>>>
    >>>> Yep.
    >>>>
    >>>>> If so, then I will have to find it.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thats the hard part.
    >>>
    >>> Wait, do I want diagnostic program for the whole laptop/notebook or
    >>> just the HDD?


  10. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?

    So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like chkdsk/scandisk,
    Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?


    On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:

    > Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics for
    > their hard drives.

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  11. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Ant wrote:
    > Barry Watzman wrote


    >> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics for their hard drives.


    > Wow, what's up with that?


    God knows, one of the weirder things we've seen in years.

    > Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How good are they?


    Pretty average.

    > Are they reliable? Good warranty?


    Pretty average.

    > So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like
    > chkdsk/scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?


    Nope, I personally use a decent SMART ute like Everest.

    Some of the other hard drive manufacturer's diags will do the basics on any drive.




  12. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are not
    all that well regarded; not junk, but some other lines are more highly
    regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).

    Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard drive;
    hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless they
    can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols or the
    manufacturers proprietary protocols (of the diagnostics you listed, only
    Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be able to do that). All other diagnostics will
    show a perfect drive right up until it is failing catastrophically.



    Ant wrote:
    > Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    > good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    >
    > So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like chkdsk/scandisk,
    > Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    >
    >
    > On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >
    >> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics
    >> for their hard drives.


  13. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Barry Watzman wrote in news:471eb736$0$24319$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
    > Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are not
    > all that well regarded; not junk, but some other lines are more highly
    > regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).


    > Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard drive;
    > hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    > isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless they
    > can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols or the
    > manufacturers proprietary protocols (of the diagnostics you listed, only
    > Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be able to do that).


    Utterly clueless.

    > All other diagnostics will show a perfect drive right up until it is failing
    > catastrophically.
    >
    >
    >
    > Ant wrote:
    > > Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    > > good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    > >
    > > So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like chkdsk/scandisk,
    > > Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    > >
    > >
    > > On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    > >
    > > > Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics
    > > > for their hard drives.


  14. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Barry Watzman wrote:

    > Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are not all that well regarded; not junk, but some
    > other lines are more highly regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).


    > Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard drive;


    Wrong when the SMART data is used.

    > hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    > isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless
    > they can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols


    So your original is just plain wrong.

    > or the manufacturers proprietary protocols


    Mindlessly silly.

    > (of the diagnostics you listed, only Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be able to do that). All other diagnostics will show a
    > perfect drive right up until it is failing catastrophically.


    Wrong if they use the SMART data from the drive.


    > Ant wrote:
    >> Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    >> good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    >>
    >> So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like
    >> chkdsk/scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    >>
    >>
    >> On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >>
    >>> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics
    >>> for their hard drives.




  15. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    No, you are the one who is clueless. Modern hard drives do defect
    relocation to spare sectors and do not report their real status to
    diagnostics such as scandisk and checkdisk. A diagnostic using the
    manufacturer's protocols or S.M.A.R.T. can find out what is going on,
    but to a "dumb" diagnostic that simply tries to check the disk by
    reading every sector, the drive will appear perfect right up to the end,
    even though in fact it has been failing progressively for some period of
    time.


    Folkert Rienstra wrote:
    > Barry Watzman wrote in news:471eb736$0$24319$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
    >> Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are not
    >> all that well regarded; not junk, but some other lines are more highly
    >> regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).

    >
    >> Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard drive;
    >> hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    >> isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless they
    >> can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols or the
    >> manufacturers proprietary protocols (of the diagnostics you listed, only
    >> Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be able to do that).

    >
    > Utterly clueless.
    >
    >> All other diagnostics will show a perfect drive right up until it is failing
    >> catastrophically.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Ant wrote:
    >>> Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    >>> good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    >>>
    >>> So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like chkdsk/scandisk,
    >>> Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >>>
    >>>> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics
    >>>> for their hard drives.


  16. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller erroron \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Obviously you didn't both read the part where I said "UNLESS they can
    interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols"

    Otherwise, they lie about their health, and running a diagnostic like,
    for example, Scandisk, is absolutely useless for finding drive defects,
    although it will find file system structural defects (which are not the
    drive's problem).


    Rod Speed wrote:
    > Barry Watzman wrote:
    >
    >> Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are not all that well regarded; not junk, but some
    >> other lines are more highly regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).

    >
    >> Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard drive;

    >
    > Wrong when the SMART data is used.
    >
    >> hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    >> isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless
    >> they can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols

    >
    > So your original is just plain wrong.
    >
    >> or the manufacturers proprietary protocols

    >
    > Mindlessly silly.
    >
    >> (of the diagnostics you listed, only Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be able to do that). All other diagnostics will show a
    >> perfect drive right up until it is failing catastrophically.

    >
    > Wrong if they use the SMART data from the drive.
    >
    >
    >> Ant wrote:
    >>> Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before. How
    >>> good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    >>>
    >>> So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like
    >>> chkdsk/scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >>>
    >>>> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered diagnostics
    >>>> for their hard drives.

    >
    >


  17. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Barry Watzman wrote in news:471fad66$0$11444$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
    > Obviously you didn't both read the part where I said "UNLESS they can
    > interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols"


    Which is just as worthless or useful as any other user program or
    generic testprogram reading or writing to the drive.

    >
    > Otherwise, they lie about their health, and running a diagnostic like,


    > for example, Scandisk,


    Bad example. It's not a test program.

    > is absolutely useless for finding drive defects,
    > although it will find file system structural defects


    > (which are not the drive's problem).


    Bwahahah. So what's the surface scan for, moron?

    >
    >
    > Rod Speed wrote:
    > > Barry Watzman wrote:
    > >


    [snip]

  18. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Barry Watzman wrote in news:471f95cd$0$9579$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
    > No, you are the one who is clueless. Modern hard drives do defect
    > relocation to spare sectors and do not report their real status to


    So what.

    > diagnostics such as scandisk and checkdisk.


    Bwahahah, diagnostics? Idjut.
    Diagnostics give the drive a workout, a workout that's harder than you
    could ever establish by merely using it.

    Bart's disktool is a diagnostic, ie a testing program, scan/checkdisk is not.


    > A diagnostic using the manufacturer's protocols or S.M.A.R.T. can find
    > out what is going on, but to a "dumb" diagnostic that simply tries to check
    > the disk by reading every sector, the drive will appear perfect right up
    > to the end,


    And perfect it is then. What would you want more? Have it lie to you?

    > even though in fact it has been failing progressively for some period of
    > time.


    That's called normal service life, moron.
    They fail eventually -of wear and tear-, 'progressively', if they didn't
    they would live forever.

    >
    >
    > Folkert Rienstra wrote:
    > > Barry Watzman wrote in news:471eb736$0$24319$4c368faf@roadrunner.com


    [snip]

  19. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    Barry Watzman wrote:

    > Obviously you didn't both read the part where I said "UNLESS they can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T.
    > protocols"


    Corse I did, thats why I rubbed your nose in the stupidity
    of your original comment when ALL modern hard drives
    keep the SMART data and all the diag has to do is use it.

    > Otherwise, they lie about their health,


    No they dont when ALL modern hard drives keep the SMART data which
    is no lie on what has been reallocated and much more about the drive.

    > and running a diagnostic like, for example, Scandisk,


    Scandisk isnt a hard drive diagnostic.

    > is absolutely useless for finding drive defects,


    Wrong with sectors that cant be reallocated for whatever reason.

    > although it will find file system structural defects (which are not the drive's problem).


    But sectors which cant be successfully read are.


    > Rod Speed wrote:
    >> Barry Watzman wrote:
    >>
    >>> Well, Toshiba only makes laptop hard drives (e.g. 2.5"). They are
    >>> not all that well regarded; not junk, but some other lines are more
    >>> highly regarded (IBM/Hitachi among others).

    >>
    >>> Generic diagnostics are absolutely useless with ANY modern hard
    >>> drive;

    >>
    >> Wrong when the SMART data is used.
    >>
    >>> hard drives "lie", and what is seen by BIOS, Windows and diagnostics
    >>> isn't what's really going on, making ALL diagnostics useless unless
    >>> they can interrogate the drive using either S.M.A.R.T. protocols

    >>
    >> So your original is just plain wrong.
    >>
    >>> or the manufacturers proprietary protocols

    >>
    >> Mindlessly silly.
    >>
    >>> (of the diagnostics you listed, only Norton & SpinRite MIGHT be
    >>> able to do that). All other diagnostics will show a perfect drive
    >>> right up until it is failing catastrophically.

    >>
    >> Wrong if they use the SMART data from the drive.
    >>
    >>
    >>> Ant wrote:
    >>>> Wow, what's up with that? Since I never used Toshiba HDDs before.
    >>>> How good are they? Are they reliable? Good warranty?
    >>>>
    >>>> So, do you guys just use third party to test HDDs like
    >>>> chkdsk/scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, SpinRite, etc.?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 10/23/2007 8:10 AM PT, Barry Watzman typed:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pretty much, yes. Toshiba has not, in the past, offered
    >>>>> diagnostics for their hard drives.




  20. Re: Need to worry about HDD? "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\D." in XP Pro. SP2's system event logs.

    "Rod Speed" wrote in
    news:5oeqbbFmibs1U1@mid.individual.net:

    > DarthNeo wrote:
    >> Ant wrote in
    >> news:471bcc10$0$9539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
    >>
    >>> Hello!
    >>>
    >>> I noticed most of the HDD controller errors occur during shutdown on
    >>> my dad's old Toshiba Satellite P15-S470 notebook/laptop. A few of
    >>> these errors even came up during the boot up. The computer only has
    >>> one HDD, a D: DVD burner drive, and sometimes an external USB flash
    >>> drive/stick.
    >>>
    >>> Exported Windows XP's System Event Logs with the sections that look
    >>> suspicious can be found here: http://pastebin.ca/744908 ... I
    >>> attached SpeedFan v4.32's online HTML SMART results (overall good)
    >>> in this newsgroup post.
    >>>
    >>> What do you think? Thank you in advance.

    >
    >> I had an HD doing that (errors in Event Log) on me in the past (IBM
    >> Travelstar). No SMART problems either. Then in about a month it
    >> started clicking. SMART and IBM HDD test both showed it fine. I
    >> backed it up. In another week it gave up a ghost. There was no
    >> warning from SMART.

    >
    > Bet there was some evidence of the problem in the SMART data tho.
    >
    > It wont have been clicking without that producing evidence of a
    > problem in the SMART data.


    Maybe, I have not seen any SMART warnings when it started clicking. And
    how come it was fine when I saw disk read/access errors in Event Log?
    When I hear clicking I do not need SMART to know that disk is about to
    die.

    >> There was another HD (Toshiba) that SMART reported having
    >> problems from the start. I don't remember what exact parameter
    >> that was (probably Seek Error Rate in the range of millions).
    >> That drive served me well for about 2 years until I replaced
    >> it with higher capacity drive. Go figure.

    >
    > Easy to figure, some drives report seek errors differently.


    Precisely. And that tells us what? That SMART was not "smart."
    Temperature reporting seems to be standard across all vendors though.
    Hence its usefulness.

    What I was saying is that SMART may be of some use as an additional tool
    but I would not rely on it.

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