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I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I saw on HP's
web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2. Now, does this
mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support Exchange and File
serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
Thanks.
Bart
The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been released to
OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices that
comes from a third party vendor today.
Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack is
released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to support
Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2 device with
this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today using a
third party software target.
"Bartly" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I saw on HP's
> web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2. Now, does this
> mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support Exchange and File
> serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
>
> Thanks.
> Bart[/color]
Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an inquiry
to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target software
package.
-Bart
"Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
[color=blue]
> The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been released to
> OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices that
> comes from a third party vendor today.
>
> Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack is
> released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to support
> Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2 device with
> this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today using a
> third party software target.
>
>
> "Bartly" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I saw on HP's
> > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2. Now, does this
> > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support Exchange and File
> > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Bart[/color][/color]
According to one company that sells the HP "Storage Server" that comes with
WSS2k3R2...it HAS iSCSI support included (which would explain why the HP
iSCSI Feature Pack wasn't supported).
Also, Microsoft says that iSCSI support is included in R2:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url]
"Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:958E19CD-A588-4525-9D55-617001B1E6B2@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an[/color]
inquiry[color=blue]
> to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target software
> package.
>
> -Bart
>
> "Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been released[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices that
> > comes from a third party vendor today.
> >
> > Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack is
> > released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to support
> > Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2 device[/color][/color]
with[color=blue][color=green]
> > this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today[/color][/color]
using a[color=blue][color=green]
> > third party software target.
> >
> >
> > "Bartly" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I saw on[/color][/color][/color]
HP's[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2. Now,[/color][/color][/color]
does this[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support Exchange[/color][/color][/color]
and File[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Bart[/color][/color][/color]
That was my impression also. It would be nice to find a straighforward white
paper or other docment on setting up an iSCSI SAN with Microsoft Storage
Server. Do you know of one?
Thanks
"Greg" wrote:
[color=blue]
> According to one company that sells the HP "Storage Server" that comes with
> WSS2k3R2...it HAS iSCSI support included (which would explain why the HP
> iSCSI Feature Pack wasn't supported).
> Also, Microsoft says that iSCSI support is included in R2:
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url]
> "Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:958E19CD-A588-4525-9D55-617001B1E6B2@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an[/color]
> inquiry[color=green]
> > to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target software
> > package.
> >
> > -Bart
> >
> > "Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been released[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices that
> > > comes from a third party vendor today.
> > >
> > > Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack is
> > > released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to support
> > > Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2 device[/color][/color]
> with[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today[/color][/color]
> using a[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > third party software target.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bartly" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I saw on[/color][/color]
> HP's[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2. Now,[/color][/color]
> does this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support Exchange[/color][/color]
> and File[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > Bart[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]
Here is all I have been able to find so far...some of it is hlepful:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/storage/sansupport.mspx[/url]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/storage/remote.mspx[/url]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/storage/iscsi/default.mspx[/url]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/storage/iscsi/msfiSCSI.mspx[/url]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0DBC4AF5-9410-4080-A545-F90B45650E20&displaylang=en[/url]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=12cb3c1a-15d6-4585-b385-befd1319f825&DisplayLang=en[/url]
"Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:111C805C-49AE-4761-9CC0-A7F5EC37DB08@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> That was my impression also. It would be nice to find a straighforward[/color]
white[color=blue]
> paper or other docment on setting up an iSCSI SAN with Microsoft Storage
> Server. Do you know of one?
>
> Thanks
>
> "Greg" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > According to one company that sells the HP "Storage Server" that comes[/color][/color]
with[color=blue][color=green]
> > WSS2k3R2...it HAS iSCSI support included (which would explain why the HP
> > iSCSI Feature Pack wasn't supported).
> > Also, Microsoft says that iSCSI support is included in R2:
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url][color=blue][color=green]
> > "Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:958E19CD-A588-4525-9D55-617001B1E6B2@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an[/color]
> > inquiry[color=darkred]
> > > to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target[/color][/color][/color]
software[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > package.
> > >
> > > -Bart
> > >
> > > "Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been[/color][/color][/color]
released[color=blue][color=green]
> > to[color=darkred]
> > > > OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > comes from a third party vendor today.
> > > >
> > > > Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to[/color][/color][/color]
support[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2[/color][/color][/color]
device[color=blue][color=green]
> > with[color=darkred]
> > > > this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today[/color]
> > using a[color=darkred]
> > > > third party software target.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bartly" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I[/color][/color][/color]
saw on[color=blue][color=green]
> > HP's[color=darkred]
> > > > > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2.[/color][/color][/color]
Now,[color=blue][color=green]
> > does this[color=darkred]
> > > > > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support[/color][/color][/color]
Exchange[color=blue][color=green]
> > and File[color=darkred]
> > > > > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > Bart[/color]
> >
> >
> >[/color][/color]
And I almost forgot...a user named JM post this to me in a previous post:
Network Computing just did a story called "How to Build an iSCSI Disk
Array" that might be interesting for you. Here's a link:
[url]http://tinyurl.com/fkvp6[/url]
If you don't trust my tiny URL here's the (really long) URL:
[url]http://www.networkcomputing.com/channels/storageandservers/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=R5IXSYD4QORRSQSNDLRSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=188700280[/url]
"Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:111C805C-49AE-4761-9CC0-A7F5EC37DB08@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> That was my impression also. It would be nice to find a straighforward[/color]
white[color=blue]
> paper or other docment on setting up an iSCSI SAN with Microsoft Storage
> Server. Do you know of one?
>
> Thanks
>
> "Greg" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > According to one company that sells the HP "Storage Server" that comes[/color][/color]
with[color=blue][color=green]
> > WSS2k3R2...it HAS iSCSI support included (which would explain why the HP
> > iSCSI Feature Pack wasn't supported).
> > Also, Microsoft says that iSCSI support is included in R2:
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url][color=blue][color=green]
> > "Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:958E19CD-A588-4525-9D55-617001B1E6B2@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an[/color]
> > inquiry[color=darkred]
> > > to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target[/color][/color][/color]
software[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > package.
> > >
> > > -Bart
> > >
> > > "Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been[/color][/color][/color]
released[color=blue][color=green]
> > to[color=darkred]
> > > > OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > comes from a third party vendor today.
> > > >
> > > > Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to[/color][/color][/color]
support[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2[/color][/color][/color]
device[color=blue][color=green]
> > with[color=darkred]
> > > > this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today[/color]
> > using a[color=darkred]
> > > > third party software target.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bartly" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I[/color][/color][/color]
saw on[color=blue][color=green]
> > HP's[color=darkred]
> > > > > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2.[/color][/color][/color]
Now,[color=blue][color=green]
> > does this[color=darkred]
> > > > > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support[/color][/color][/color]
Exchange[color=blue][color=green]
> > and File[color=darkred]
> > > > > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > Bart[/color]
> >
> >
> >[/color][/color]
I did see that Greg. Thanks so much for all your help.
-Bart
"Greg" wrote:
[color=blue]
> And I almost forgot...a user named JM post this to me in a previous post:
>
> Network Computing just did a story called "How to Build an iSCSI Disk
> Array" that might be interesting for you. Here's a link:
>
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/fkvp6[/url]
>
> If you don't trust my tiny URL here's the (really long) URL:
>
> [url]http://www.networkcomputing.com/channels/storageandservers/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=R5IXSYD4QORRSQSNDLRSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=188700280[/url]
> "Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:111C805C-49AE-4761-9CC0-A7F5EC37DB08@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > That was my impression also. It would be nice to find a straighforward[/color]
> white[color=green]
> > paper or other docment on setting up an iSCSI SAN with Microsoft Storage
> > Server. Do you know of one?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Greg" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > According to one company that sells the HP "Storage Server" that comes[/color][/color]
> with[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > WSS2k3R2...it HAS iSCSI support included (which would explain why the HP
> > > iSCSI Feature Pack wasn't supported).
> > > Also, Microsoft says that iSCSI support is included in R2:
> > >[/color][/color]
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > "Bartly" <Bartly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:958E19CD-A588-4525-9D55-617001B1E6B2@microsoft.com...
> > > > Thank you Claude. I will look at HP again, and I have also sent an
> > > inquiry
> > > > to Falconstor, which I believe produces a respected iSCSI target[/color][/color]
> software[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > package.
> > > >
> > > > -Bart
> > > >
> > > > "Claude[MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Microsoft iSCSI software target feature pack has not been[/color][/color]
> released[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > to
> > > > > OEMs yet. HP has an iSCSI target for their storage server devices[/color][/color]
> that[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > comes from a third party vendor today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your thinking is correct in a sense, once the iSCSI application pack[/color][/color]
> is[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > released to OEMs from MSFT, you can build a simple iSCSI SAN to[/color][/color]
> support[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > Exchange and file serving by using Windows Storage Server 203 R2[/color][/color]
> device[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > with
> > > > > this application pack once it is released. Or you can do that today
> > > using a
> > > > > third party software target.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bartly" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I understand that WSS R2 now includes iSCSI support. In fact, I[/color][/color]
> saw on[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > HP's
> > > > > > web site that their iSCSI feature pack is not supported on R2.[/color][/color]
> Now,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > does this
> > > > > > mean that if I want to build a simple iSCSI SAN to support[/color][/color]
> Exchange[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > and File
> > > > > > serving, all I need is a storage server running WSS R2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > Bart
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]
Bart,
I would be interested in seeing what DNF charges for the FlexStor-NAS 400e,
FlexStor-NAS 600e, and the FlexStor-NAS 800e.
Let me know if you get prices from them.
Thanks,
Greg
There seems to be a lot of confusion here.
WSS R2 includes the iSCSI *initiator*
([url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/features/default.mspx[/url]
refers to the initiator, not target)
The iSCSI *target* will be an optional component for WSS R2 (released to the
OEM as a Feature Pack) - not yet released. Based on WinTarget which was
acquired from String Bean Software.
"Greg" <boltsinneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u7EoxZhmGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Bart,
> I would be interested in seeing what DNF charges for the FlexStor-NAS
> 400e,
> FlexStor-NAS 600e, and the FlexStor-NAS 800e.
> Let me know if you get prices from them.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>[/color]
Confusion?!?!?!?
Here are two statements from the website you cited:
Windows Storage Server 2003 R2 supports the iSCSI protocol, making it easy
to integrate with IP data transport environments.
Internet Small Computer System Interface (iSCSI) support to enable
connectivity to IP targets and IP SANs
If WSS 03 R2 is "easy to integrate with IP data transport environments" and
has "iSCSI support to enable connectivity to IP targets and IP SANs"...it
has the capability of being an *initiator* AND a *target*.
Is it unreasonable to think that with this kind of product information?
Those statements are a little misleading.
Maybe its just me, but that reads like WSS can be connected into an IP SAN.
What if I want to make it a target? It must be okay, because it specifies
"iSCSI support to enable connectivity to IP targets ***AND*** IP SANs",
clearly pointing out that it can do more than be the initiator!
Now I don't know WHAT to think!
Except maybe MS doesn't WANT to offer support for the third party iSCSI
target that HP offers, because MS will have their own out sometime.
So I guess what really is the issue here is, what iSCSI target products does
MS currently SUPPORT?
"Jeff Goldner [MS]" <jeffgo@iworkatmicrosoft> wrote in message
news:OXchnb%23oGHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> There seems to be a lot of confusion here.
>
> WSS R2 includes the iSCSI *initiator*
>[/color]
([url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/fea[/url]
tures/default.mspx[color=blue]
> refers to the initiator, not target)
>
> The iSCSI *target* will be an optional component for WSS R2 (released to[/color]
the[color=blue]
> OEM as a Feature Pack) - not yet released. Based on WinTarget which was
> acquired from String Bean Software.
>
> "Greg" <boltsinneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u7EoxZhmGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Bart,
> > I would be interested in seeing what DNF charges for the FlexStor-NAS
> > 400e,
> > FlexStor-NAS 600e, and the FlexStor-NAS 800e.
> > Let me know if you get prices from them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]