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  1. Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Example spam at: http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam3.txt

    I've been getting quite a lot of spam that's coming *directly* from
    Google, using Google servers and referencing blogspot.com (also a
    Google property) URLs. I've been submitting them to URIBL but
    naturally, they're constantly changing.

    What have you guys done to try and cut down on the blatant spam coming
    right out of Google? It seems that they are *very* bad at responding
    to spam complaints (if they respond at all) and Google is actually
    helping spammers by hiding the originating IP address.

    I don't want to just go and add points to gmail/blogspot because of
    the number of valid users.

    Also, do any of the SA rulesets give a negative score to Google
    properties? If so, perhaps it's time to rethink that..

    Cheers,

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    j


  2. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Jonathan Nichols wrote:

    > Example spam at: http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam3.txt
    >
    > I've been getting quite a lot of spam that's coming *directly* from Google,
    > using Google servers and referencing blogspot.com (also a Google property)
    > URLs. I've been submitting them to URIBL but naturally, they're constantly
    > changing.


    Same problem here. For us, the amount of spam originating directly from
    Google has increased noticeably over the last two months.

    > What have you guys done to try and cut down on the blatant spam coming
    > right out of Google? It seems that they are *very* bad at responding to
    > spam complaints (if they respond at all) and Google is actually helping
    > spammers by hiding the originating IP address.


    I have tried contacting postmaster@ but their auto-response is uselessly
    disingenuous. In it, they insist that spam is never sent from Google
    servers, and only from "miscreants" who forge @gmail.com addresses.

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    Sahil Tandon


  3. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Sahil Tandon wrote:
    > Jonathan Nichols wrote:
    >> I've been getting quite a lot of spam that's coming *directly* from Google,
    >> using Google servers and referencing blogspot.com (also a Google property)
    >> URLs. I've been submitting them to URIBL but naturally, they're constantly
    >> changing.

    >
    > Same problem here. For us, the amount of spam originating directly from
    > Google has increased noticeably over the last two months.


    Yes, unfortunately, Google has joined Hotmail and Yahoo lately as being a
    part of the problem and no the solution. It's unfortunate.

    I do find that I block the bulk of it though with some good manual bayes
    training...


    Chris


  4. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    > Sahil Tandon wrote:
    > > Jonathan Nichols wrote:
    > >> I've been getting quite a lot of spam that's coming *directly* from Google,
    > >> using Google servers and referencing blogspot.com (also a Google property)
    > >> URLs. I've been submitting them to URIBL but naturally, they're constantly
    > >> changing.

    > >
    > > Same problem here. For us, the amount of spam originating directly from
    > > Google has increased noticeably over the last two months.


    On 27.05.08 18:16, AxisInternet wrote:
    > Yes, unfortunately, Google has joined Hotmail and Yahoo lately as being a
    > part of the problem and no the solution. It's unfortunate.
    >
    > I do find that I block the bulk of it though with some good manual bayes
    > training...


    I think it's more about spammers, law and security of (mostly) home
    computers. In my employer's company we also notice spam increase from our
    network etc. and google as free mail provider is also just the victim.

    Yes, providers can do much with the spam problem. But not all.

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  5. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Am 2008-05-25 23:44:33, schrieb Sahil Tandon:
    > I have tried contacting postmaster@ but their auto-response is uselessly
    > disingenuous. In it, they insist that spam is never sent from Google
    > servers, and only from "miscreants" who forge @gmail.com addresses.

    ------------------------ END OF REPLIED MESSAGE ------------------------

    I have checked the Received: headers several times and the messages are
    coming from or . Maybe they should be listet in
    .

    Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    24V Electronic Engineer
    Tamay Dogan Network
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  6. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot


    > I have checked the Received: headers several times and the messages are
    > coming from or . Maybe they should be listet in
    > .



    We have 200 complaints a day about spam that really comes from gmail.
    It's the biggest source of spam that gets through. Obviously it's also
    a very big source of legit mail. Just a few months ago we did not get
    much spam at all from gmail. Something changed.

    Joseph Brennan
    Columbia University Information Technology


  7. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Joseph Brennan wrote:

    >> I have checked the Received: headers several times and the messages are
    >> coming from or . Maybe they should be listet in
    >> .

    >
    > We have 200 complaints a day about spam that really comes from gmail.
    > It's the biggest source of spam that gets through. Obviously it's also
    > a very big source of legit mail. Just a few months ago we did not get
    > much spam at all from gmail. Something changed.


    Agreed, and people need to realize that spam delivered via gmail servers *is*
    Google's responsibility. No exceptions.

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    Sahil Tandon


  8. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Joseph Brennan wrote:
    > Just a few months ago we did not get much spam at all from gmail.
    > Something changed.


    One change seems to be that Google's captcha has been broken.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=google+captcha+broken

    Bob


  9. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    > Joseph Brennan wrote:
    > > Just a few months ago we did not get much spam at all from gmail.
    > > Something changed.


    On 28.05.08 20:24, Bob Proulx wrote:
    > One change seems to be that Google's captcha has been broken.
    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?q=google+captcha+broken


    don't they block found pages yet? ;-)
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  10. Re: Spam from Gmail & Blogspot

    Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
    > I think it's more about spammers, law and security of (mostly) home
    > computers. In my employer's company we also notice spam increase from our
    > network etc. and google as free mail provider is also just the victim.


    Victims? IMNTBHO, if a company is going to provide free email services,
    which are going to be exploited as much as possible by spammers, then they
    either need to actively police it, secure it from abuse (whatever that
    takes) or stop. Otherwise they are part of the problem. Relaying spam as
    they do is unacceptable. If us little guys have a server relaying spam, they
    will block us in a heartbeat and think nothing of it....


    Chris


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