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Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.

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--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 57229 invoked by uid 99); 10 May 2008 15:13:57 -0000
Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (
by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 May 2008 08:13:57 -0700
X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0
X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org
Received: from [] (HELO FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw) (
by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 May 2008 15:13:10 +0000
Received: by FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Postfix)
id 3FF6A7E909; Sat, 10 May 2008 23:14:21 +0800 (CST)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:14:21 +0800 (CST)
From: MAILER-DAEMON@FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: users-return-69783-sa-talk=freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw@spamassassin.apache. org
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20080510151422.3FF6A7E909@FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org

This is a MIME-encapsulated message.

Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is the mail system at host FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

: Command time limit exceeded:
"/usr/local/news/bin/mail-post.pl mailing.unix.spamassassin-talk"

Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: A07747E8E7
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; users-return-69783-sa-talk=freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw@spamassassin.apache. org
Arrival-Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:49:05 +0800 (CST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; sa-talk@freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Original-Recipient: rfc822;sa-talk@freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Action: failed
Status: 5.3.0
Diagnostic-Code: x-unix; internal software error

Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Received: from localhost (unknown [])
by FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07747E8E7
for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 22:49:05 +0800 (CST)
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by localhost (FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw []) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id xtQWjY62wPwS for ;
Sat, 10 May 2008 22:48:47 +0800 (CST)
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by FreeBSD.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Postfix) with SMTP id 842FC7E8F8
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Received: (qmail 29835 invoked by uid 500); 10 May 2008 14:20:50 -0000
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Received: (qmail 29824 invoked by uid 99); 10 May 2008 14:20:50 -0000
Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (
by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 May 2008 07:20:50 -0700
X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0
X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org
Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jeffkoch@intersessions.com designates as permitted sender)
Received: from [] (HELO pegasus.avspamfilter.com) (
by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 May 2008 14:20:03 +0000
Received: (qmail 3867 invoked by uid 89); 10 May 2008 14:20:17 -0000
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scanners: clamav: 0.92/m:
Received: from unknown (HELO Lattitude.intersessions.com) (jeffkoch@intersessions.com@
by 0 with ESMTPA; 10 May 2008 14:20:15 -0000
Message-Id: < ns.com>
X-Sender: jeffkoch@intersessions.com@mail.intersessions.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:20:06 -0400
To: mouss
From: Jeff Koch
Subject: Re: False positive on forged_mua_outlook
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
In-Reply-To: <48255936.4040207@netoyen.net>
References: <4824C0A8.1010900@livedatagroup.com>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org

That part (i.e. the top part of the header) was generated by qmail. Please
look at the bottom part of the header after the spam scoring which shows
the header from the user's email which was mistakenly scored as a

At 04:13 AM 5/10/2008, mouss wrote:
>Randy Ramsdell wrote:
>>Scratch that and reverse it. If it does match, then it will score the
>>message header as fake. oops sorry. Let me check some more things.

>Did outlook really generate this message-id:
> Message-ID: <74BC081D12754719AD817A909757BB09@server>

Best Regards,

Jeff Koch, Intersessions