On Mar 26, 7:38 pm, alan...@ilkda.com wrote:
> So far I'm batting 1000% at picking the wrong combinations.
>
> Xsun detects the ATI Mobility without a hitch but I can't seem to find
> the right monitor selection.
>
> I checked over at support.dell.com but they do not list any of the
> specs for the display.
>
> Anyone?

You could try installing in console mode and then run kdmconfig to
switch to Xorg, and then follow the instructions to create a config
file...

I hope you'll get better, more specific answers but I thought I'd
share something else I discovered this weekend.

Solaris 10 has always automatically detected my video card (nvidia)
and monitor (sony) during installation and proceeded with the
interactive install no problem. I think it's using Xsun at that
point. Then when the system boots the first time it tries to switch
to Xorg, fails, and I have to either 1) run kdmconfig and switch to
Xsun (slow in my case) or, 2) edit the Xorg.conf file myself.

Anyhoo, when I installed Solaris Express DE (02/07) this weekend, I
noticed it skips the whole Xsun thing during install (not sure whether
it uses Xsun or Xorg), and then it actually gets the Xorg config
correct when the system boots without my help at all!

So, if you can't solve it any other way, you could try Solaris Express
and (hopefully) get a working Xorg.config, then install Solaris 10 in
console mode, run kdmconfig, and set up your Xorg file.

> You could try installing in console mode and then run kdmconfig to
> switch to Xorg, and then follow the instructions to create a config
> file...

I might post a bug on this. Console installations, while not fun, are
doable and even though you have not selected a display it still
insists on trying to start X Windows, sheesh.

> to Xorg, fails, and I have to either 1) run kdmconfig and switch to
> Xsun (slow in my case) or, 2) edit the Xorg.conf file myself.

I poked around Linux Laptops to see how others were configuring X.org
for Linux. Finally got something almost workable. The logon screen
isn't quite right but I can pan around enough to get the options that
I want. Went into JDS and got the desktop situated with a 75 hz
resolution that is a little higher than what I wanted, but the desktop
is stable, and the fonts are still big enough that I can see the
screen ok. I then tried to go back to Xsun with the same settings
that I'm now using for JDS, and still no go. So, other then a logon
screen that I have to pan around on if I want to change the settings,
I'm good to go.

> So, if you can't solve it any other way, you could try Solaris Express
> and (hopefully) get a working Xorg.config, then install Solaris 10 in
> console mode, run kdmconfig, and set up your Xorg file.

Have to wait for those DVD's to show up in the mail. Anyways, I have
a usable desktop. Need to add alsa for sound and then probably NDIS
for the wifi connect. More fun and games.

thanks,
alan

Got it finally. Had to add a few 1400x1050 lines to get it to the
proper resolution. If you look at the "Display" sub sections you'll
note that I added them there as well as in monitor. This stops the
pan effect since it was defaulting to only 1024x768. Now the screen
is stretched to the proper size and life is good.

alan


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Section "Monitor"

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# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
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# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
Identifier "My Monitor"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
HorizSync 30.0 - 90.0
VertRefresh 40.0 - 110.0
ModeLine "1400x1050" 107.85 1400 1450 1500 1999 1050 1058 1070
1150
EndSection

Section "Device"

VideoRam 16384
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
Identifier "** ATI (generic) [ati]"
Driver "r128"
ChipSet "ATI Rage 128 Mobility M4 MF (AGP)"
BusID ""
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "** ATI (generic) [ati]"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
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SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
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reds.baseball@hotmail.com writes in alt.solaris.x86:
|Anyhoo, when I installed Solaris Express DE (02/07) this weekend, I
|noticed it skips the whole Xsun thing during install (not sure whether
|it uses Xsun or Xorg), and then it actually gets the Xorg config
|correct when the system boots without my help at all!

That's probably the combination of two things in SX, which are both
coming to the next S10 update release as well:
1) Switching the install process from Xsun to Xorg
2) Bundling the nvidia accelerated driver from nvidia.com directly in
Solaris (which also has better monitor autodetection than the open
source nv driver used if you don't have nvidia's driver installed).

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